I want to give up.

I think its stress or anxiety Lynn.

It can cause a lot of symptoms like stomach aches or digestives issues.

You should try to eat the best way you can and drink water.

If it gets too intense, you can see a doctor.

all withdrawal gs x

How you been toria?

Yeah i understand but my family dont when they see me like this .

It seems neverending and i dont know what to do next.

Im confused and worried .

You been awesome toria and helpful .

I feel crying and aches and pains .

I do have some aches and pains before meds due to workout at gym doing strenous exercise so .

I think i went on meds for pain and some anxiety and now im om pins and needles.

I just feel like im lost in life and sick .

Thanks!

I make these grimacing faces from pain and anxiety and low moods.

Im just unwell and trying my best.

I wanna go out more and do things .

My mind just feels off and aches and pains too.

One major problem i have now to is lost self control and i lash out and stuff.

I also say stuff family like i cant go on.

They wanna to call someone numerous times lately ever since on zoloft and off now.

Thanks!

toria ! do you ever feel jittery.

i understand gs i really do, any pain will be heightened in withdrawal and when you start settling youll notice that in the better moments all symptoms reduce or go away, everything youve listed i have so i really do understand but try and remember its not forever keep trying to do things its very very important x

Yeah i know but now i dont know if i should go back on meds and what med to go back on toria. I have klonopin and that it but thats a downer and dont wanna get hooked on it .

Its just confusing and my family is just worried and confused too.

Thanks!

I know i been at this since january which does not help matters.

Its just been rough and tough and getting harder to cope.

You seem to cope well with everything toria.

Im just not good at it.

I do go out and went to dinner feeling bad so now afraid to go out to public places.I kinda feel unstable with this now from.minute to minute.

I was kinda complaining to family over how i feel to family.

Thanks!

gs you said you felt better with less symptoms before the meds didnt you? the problem is every change is shaking you up, trust me i cry alot but know i want off and it does get better x

Hey toria! Well i went back

on meds for anxiety and stuff and life changes.

I had a lot of stressors from money issues to not working to stuff like that.

I also had some aches and pains as well.

Well now i do feel worse and feel like frustrated about my life and feel lonely with this and just dont care about much anymore.

I also feel trapped in my mind and stuff.

Toria whats your worst symptom?

Thanks!

I use to over do it at gym so that cause aches and pains.

I still go sometimes like weds i over do it and was feeling so exausted because i dont do much anymore.

Thanks!

hey gs my worse symptoms are fear, racing thoughts, anxiety and pain, when you go the gym you need to train lighter, anything to release endorphines x

I have tmj too i think cause i feel my jaw clicking and in pain.

My neck been bothering me too.

I do over do it with the weights and classes dont ask me how or why.

Im out tonight and try to drive feel it too still like lingering there . I went to place with friends and feel stuff like thoughts and feelings like im stuck like this forever. I gotta say the pain and stuff gets to me like i want relief from all.this stuff.

Its like thoughts and stuff while driving and out and feel low out too.

I guess you add all this up and boom i feel unwell.

I feel like i need something too like my brain is missing stuff.

Hey lois how you doing?

gs youre just putting yourself through start up and withdrawal in a circle its none stop, you need a plan and stick to it x

iam doing well.how are you feeling?

Hey lois! eh same old feelings i guess.

I went out yesterday evening for my bday but felt very iffy .

I did talk to friends and stuff and had a drink but now i feel unwell today laying around .

Thanks!

Yeah i know toria! well right now im not doing well today laying around.

I did get out yesterday for bday with friends and stuff.

I just feel like my mind is lost and hate the sickly low feeling i have along with thoughts and unpleasant feelings.

Yeah i get aches and pains too which doesnt help me .

I do get intense feelings at times .

I dont like the state im in sometimes .

I feel alone at times too which sucks .

I know i have you all too.

Thanks!

the best thing now for you is to have a plan .at least you now realize the consequences of the meds.so is all in your hands now .the advises on here from me anyway have been exhausted .take care and have a plan either way is not easy.best regards

Yeah i know lois ! you been there for me.

Im totally just not well feeling today.

I went out last night toria for drinks and stuff.

I still get those brain zaps and stuff.

I shouldnt have drank because it atfects me now.

Thanks!

Hey yeah toria and lois i so know what you mean about the consequences which sucks lois .

My life has no plan i sort of just getting by barely.

Its not a good life i live . I battle anxiety for long time too but was on med that had me settled before.

Now i feel like im in limbo feeling this way and nobody understands me anymore.

seriously gs drinking is the worst thing you could do!!! and yes i know what limbo feels like as ive been in one for a long time but i have to be strict with myself and be good to my mind and body, whatever you decide isnt going to be a quick fix x

Yeah i know toria it was my birthday.

I was out with friends and stuff .

I dont drink much at all even before meds but your right .

You been so helpful through this.

I been in bed all day today as a result.

I just had a few beers but still its a depressant.

Thanks!

what are you going to do gs?

Are you going to continue the withdrawal or go back in med?

Hey lolita! i just wish i knew the right med for me is all.

I know its hard process to begin with doses and the right med as well.

I understand you been helpful to me and i thank you.

I just feel confused at moment in time is all.

Im really trying my best daily through bad symptoms and stuff.

I need to get to living decent as im not getting any younger.

I think i dont know whats wrong with me anymore.

Im sure you read my posts above.

I just need to find a way to live again nice and decent.

I mean i have no kids or significant other and feel just not living normally .

Its very difficult process as lois says.

Im on 9 months counting which doesnt help my ways.

Thanks!

to be honest gs considering all the changes youve made your symptoms could be alot worse, you need a plan and stick to it x

Gs,

I know, I struggled for almost 2 years and now Im better because once I decided to go back on the right med and stick with it, it took months to recovered but Im better now.

You seems to want to go back on med and settle, am I right?

If that is the case, you should have a talk with your doctor and for your issues, therapy might help.

Yeah well its bad enough believe me.

My jaw been bothering me and just feel body pain .

I dont know if from exercise or what.

I also just feel mentally blah and not much to do .

Thanks!

Lolita what were you symptoms for two years?

I mean how you cope with it.

Im having trouble coping with it honestly.

I had terrible days where i dont wanna leave bed and in pain mentally and physically.

Now i have aches and pains i notice.

Feels like my joints and muscles.

I do try to exercise like im told but go and overdo it there too.

Thanks!

the aches and pains arent from exercise at all its from withdrawal etc, as i exercise daily and guess what when i have good hours i have no pain!

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/citalopram-side-effects.html lots of symptoms x

I was having terrible anxiety and depression and lots of symptoms believe me. I was anxious going from one med to another. The side effects was increasing my anxiety. So last year, I withdraw thinking it was the meds fault which was a bad idea. After a month, I was worse. So went back in med at crisis. And lots of therapy helped me understand, I needed to let time and patience and work on my negative thoughts. I accepted that it would take time to heal.

the bad thing about working out when you are in withdrawl is that the pain you get from working out with heavy weights are magnified to the tenth power.so the normal pain you may have from workout is magnified from the withdrawls .everything just feels s****y from withdrawls and start ups.so its no win situation.

yes, gs is right!

You should consider doing soft exercices. Like walking, little jogging , yoga. You body will like it better.

I meant to say lois you are right on this...

i had that same issue with working out with my withdrawls and start ups.i had pain in my ankles and wrist.but eventually it subsided.

the problem with getting on and off these drugs is it takes a long time, and sometimes withdrawal takes a long time to kick in and a lot of people (not all) panic and think its the original problem and go back on drugs, anyway gs i wish you all the luck in the world but i feel like we are going around and around in circles and getting nowhere x

Yeah it magnifies the issue is correct.

I do have joint pain amd aches before.

I do these vigourous classes like kickboxing and power classes so i dont know.

I dont feel great either as not in as good shape as i was.

Thanks!

I think i got something called tmj as i hear crackley sensation i

n my jaw .

I know you all right.

I feel exausted today as well.

Thanks!

I use to lift weights a lot as well so yeah.

Thanks!

Hey all! Im exausted today and have hard time getting going.

I wish i had energy like i use to as well.

My thoughts are negative too lolita.

I also feel just like saying negative stuff to family which not good.

I do not do much these days aside from go out to gym or go to a place or so.

How you been toria?

Well you symptoms are relate to your withdrawal and anxiety/depression.

And you know my point of view and the one from lois about all that.

Like we said, you have to decide which road you want to make (meds vs no meds).

I wont try to convince you because its your choice and we have done that several times. But...You have to make a plan and stick to it and say what you want to do. Because now, you just go from one opinion to another and you just confuse yourself by not knowing what to do. Take action by making a decision.

im terrible but cracking on until i get in a window 😃 x

How you do it feeling terrible toria?

What makes you feel terrible toria?

I feel low and negative thinking laying around.

When do you get a window of feeling decent?

I guess i have them barely moments.

Thanks!

Yeah i know lolita! I just dislike the side effects of the drugs.

I think im a bit sensitive to them is all.

The withdrawals are awful as well so its hard.

I dont know but i do get very frustrated with it all.

Its a tough decision to figure out as you know lolita.

I mean i wish it was easier decision for me. I feel tired on or off meds so that wont change.

I wish my life were better and easier than this.

I just feel so out of it at the moment laying here .

Thanks lolita!

Everybody, i am weaning to a much lower dose of luvox. i would like to switch over to zoloft again which worked well at 50 mgs for 20 years. i had breakthrough anxiety and went off two years ago . could it work again for anxiety.

You wont know if you dont try.

i work hard to act normal even if i dont feel it and force positive thoughts and keep busy x

Thats good toria. been a huge problem for me as i get all these things at me.

I do enjoy exercise classes. I think its hard on joints and muscles too. I have pain feels like all over from jaw to neck to head and stuff.

I enjoy lifting weights too. The classes are high intensity so .

I feel very achy and pains today so that not helping my mood.

My mood is low from everything .

I think i had aches and some pains before meds cause i always worked out weekly.

A lot of people are sensitive to meds but it doesnt mean it wont work.

You see, that's the thing with you...You want your life back etc but you dont accept going through the processus and accept the side effects.

You say you dont know what to do . You have to start to make decisions. Thats intense gs, you want a quick fix recovery. It doesnt work lime this.

gs i am so all over and also have sciatica, i have bad racing thoughts and fears almost none stop at the moment as well as nausea dizziness and migraines etc x

"sore"

Toria your amazing .

I went to gym and did a cycle class.

Yeah i feel it all over too from joint pain and muscle pain.

I have some tmj jaw issue clicky jaw.

My neck and jaw feel it too.

Do you do anything for you issues?

Hey toria! I got a question for you.

Can hallucinations and racy thoughts be from withdrawals med?

I get these still throw me for a loop.

Is why im scared of the meds now.

Thanks!

gs theyre absolutely from withdrawal as id never had them before x i use epsom salts for pain x

Yeah lois! Its my body is so stiff and tight after workout like yesterday.

I was crying last night from pain or what.

Thanks!

Yeah toria! How you today?

I had a crying spell last night .

I get these and my family dont understand what wrong with me.

Its like i get it from pain or despair.

It has to be with how im feeling.

I also get stuff i listed above.

How you doing today?

Thanks!

gs crying spells are normal for withdrawal i have them almost everyday, im in pain myself so going to use epsom salts then off to the golf course x

Yeah lois! So what is happening to make us cry?

Is it emotional or physical pain or what?

Is it the chemicals in our brain changing?

Im still tending to lay around and then go to gym.

I like the gym but as i said i get a bad feeling going.

I try to drive and get bad feelings there too.

Thanks!

I mean toria or lois.

How you lois and lolita?

the meds dull down emotions and when youre withdrawing they come back, good and bad until youre settled, crying is actually good for you x

the crying spells come with the frustration of why you feel the way you do.so you cry out of pity for your self.

Yeah i think your both right on cause i notice i get that way .

Its like im feeling bad about myself and feeling this way.

I notice i lost interest in stuff now as well .

Hey lois! Its like my mind is never turned off .

I tend to feel weirded out and get weird thoughts and feel like out of it daily.

That along with body aches and pain and im in a cycle everyday this way.

I think another issue is i dont know what causing this and think i lost myself now.

Thanks!

I mean i know what it is but its hard to believe. I think its just me i guess.

I try to act normal at gym toria so it seems i can for a moment.

Even though im.not feeling well at the moment.

Thanks!

thank god you know what it is.x

Yeah lois doesnt help matters at all.

Im just exhausted and tired and feeling very low today lois.

Um im laying down just feeling sickly.

Thanks!

Its a weird low feeling not like originally but feels worst now.

Thanks lois!

Sonetimes i dont think its symptoms and its me.

Either way its hard to handle this way.

Thanks!

all the weird symptoms your feeling are definitely withdraws.but they will pass with time .trust n believe is not your natural anxiety symptoms.

Lois !Yeah but not everyone sees this lois.

Sometimes i dont as well.

It gets frustrating position to be in.

Yeah im still not myself wondering if i ever will be normal again.

I was decent last year and before that was settled .

These meds put you down for the count. Its crazy how these work as i never knew it until these forums.

I feel so unsettled now .

I been on this ride since january as you know. i.made mistakes i admit it.

Im not blaming everything on meds either. I noticed i have a negative outlook because i wanted to do a lot things this year and not happening and not getting any younger.

I notice now i back away from trying to.meet new people and enjoying life.

Thanks!

Hey lois! im losing patience and some control over this.

I say stuff to family and issues and stuff.

Do you think that this is possible to happen ?

Hey lois! I did a kickboxing class.

Now i feel all achy and pain and neck and jaw and shoulders.

I dont know what to relieve this with.

Thanks!

Is this due to some withdrawal or what?

take some advil

We told you, slow down the hard training...you have to listen to advises!

Take your klonopin and make a choice for the med/no med.

Yeah i know lolita! I enjoy exercise and classes but seems everything i do is very difficult on me now. I do go easy in class but seems i have aches and pain all over.

I feel mentally and physically not well.

Thanks!

well,you have to take the best decisions for your health. If exercices makes you worse now , why do you keep on doing it?

If you feel so terrible, why dont you just go back on med?

Seriously, its almost like a nonsense nonstop cycle all this.

Sorry gs, we all wish the best for you but you are not helping yourself.

I decided to take med and I accept that. You are withdrawing because thats your decision. I dont think I can help you in that road. Other person will have a pleasure to encourage you in that path.

pain is a massive withdrawal symptom whether you exercise or not gs x

Yeah i know lolita! You been helpful.

I just feel like i do the exercise to do something daily as im not doing much daily . It seems im sensitive to pain and everything now.

I understand lolita.

You all been very helpful more so than you think.

Im just confused about meds and stuff as well .

I just feel like they havent helped me but they are helpful for people .

I get the side effects of them and still do.

I never feel as bad as now concerning how i feel and stuff which is bad.

I feel trapped inside with all this pain.

How you toria?

i suffered worse than you gs.i couldnt even type a sentence let alone go to the gym.and i preservere with treatment and i fully recovered

Yeah toria it seems whether i do it or not .

It also seems that exercise is not helping .

I notice pain during startup of celexa.

I just feel trapped now with the way i feel. I feel no way out of this pain.

Thanks toria!

I notice pain from startup of meds.

One of reason i give up on them .

It feels like i have major arthritis or something muscular all over body pain.

Thanks!

lois ! what was that from?

Your awesome.

I know i go to gym but you had anxiety right. I feel like my body is so worn out.

It seems im battling everything daily.

Thanks!

i had severe anxiety.yes

ive been in a terrible state for 2 years with no help from benzos at one point i couldnt even talk and would jump at every single noise but it gets better i promise x

Ok lois! I understand. Im struggling now physically and mentally.

Its like my body been run over by a train.

Thanks!

yes Lois is awesome and her advises also

but you decided to listen to some other advises.

Not blaming you for trying to go med free but I sincerely think you need to change your mind regarding them. One will be for you but perseverance is the key.

You contradict yourself because in a lot of post, you mention having anxiety before. The fact that this anxiety is now worse, is not because of med, I think its because you look at them badly....And also because you have been stress and depress for so long and all that increase anxiety.

Yeah toria got you i feel that way now.

I never thought i would say pain is this bad.

Its like joint pain and muscle pain and everything all rolled up in one.

Im in bed cant move hardly today.

I just dont have a positive outlook feeling this way daily.

Thanks!

gs you didnt have depression did you? i thought it was just anxiety and pain? listen you do what is best for you, by now you must know what that is 😃 x

i was struggling mentally and physically for 30 years it was like a train ran over my head over n over again without meds of any kind!.now i feel absolutely lovely with the help of my celexa.

Yeah lolita! I get what you saying . Im just scared of how i feel on them.

Off of them im not well now either.

I know i dont have a plan going forward.

Maybe zoloft turn me off them.

I cant even think straight anymore with pain.

Thanks!

I think all the changes in med has not helped me either. I admit it.

I am in withdrawal. Been two weeks.

Thanks!

Well i had a lil bit of that toria.

Now im

worse than ever with pain .

I feel sensitive to everything.

I use to workout no problem.

bengay/advil/or the tylonal with the caffeine in it for energy wonderful for pain .

Yeah lois same here i have had some issues for years.

It feels like my pain is so bad today after yesteday class.

I hear clicking and cracky joints.

I just feel low in mood due to all this as you know.

I know what you mean lois. I just dont know how to go on like this pain.

Thanks!

you been in withdrawl since january because you refused treatment because your too scare of the side effects.

do not touch caffeine its as bad as drinking beer etc in withdrawal, gs i click all the time on bad days x

Bingo! I cannot agree more with Lois!

Hey toria ! Yeah my jaw clicks and body aches and pain with creaky joints all.over.

I went easy in kickboxing class but a lot of movements in that class like .

Its like i wanna give up now .

gs, come on!

You see how you are feeling?

Yes its withdrawal but I see depression big time. You have to do something and see a doctor.

You wait and wait and wait but for what? To be worse???

And some replies here are just to contradict some others and it mess with your decisions.

dont give up listen to toria!!!

gs i suffered from severe anxiety and caffeine dows not effect me.everyone is different.

wow this isnt a competition, to be honest im not trying to get gs to go anyway just do whats best for him, seriously i left school years ago and cant be bothered with all these childish and frankly bizarre comments by some on this thread!

Toria you been very helpful to me as well as everyone.

Im just lost my path in life this year.

I feel aches and pains and stuff and you explain what it could be from.

Thanks!

gs we just want whats best for you.what is good for the goose may not be good for the gander.x

you have to remember gs you have been withdrawing for 7months.

Yeah lois! Is any of this chemically changing ?

I know you do lois! You been very helpful.

I just wish i didnt feel this sick lois!

Thanks,!

gs maybe start a new thread about what youre going through as the name of this thread is no longer relevant x

is just your brain trying to restore a normal balance of serotonin .and the one thing that gets affacted from this is your nervous system .and no one on earth is going to tell you how long that will take .we can all only assume.including your doctors.

Yeah lois i know! I tried the gym and didnt do much there.

Um still feeling pain and stuff! Thanks lois! Your the best.

I back home and started to cry and having plan.

Thanks!

pain

I was driving crying so not good there.

Thanks!

Hey lois! You got any advice and what you think i should do .

I know you dont wanna anymore.

I am thankful to you.

I seem to be crying and stuff here so yeah.

Thanks!

So the nervous system is whats affected and cause a lot of symptoms.

Can by any chance be causing the depression to get worse or not.

and also pain and other stuff.

I wish i could live better. Oh well.

Thanks!

the crying the pain the depression the anxiety is all part of the nervous system.

Oh ok lois! So thats my issues lois.

I mean those are the worst 3 things to deal with.

Thanks!

Lois and Toria am i losing it telling you all this stuff?

I think i am because the way i feel and act like crying and irritability.

Thanks!

My mind is racy and feel my mind is off now .

Thanks!

gs you need to decide what youre going to do, im suffering badly and cant keep typing the same things over and over, everything you feel is the drugs either start ups or withdrawal everything you feel now that you didnt feel before is the drugs, i could do my own post on here but its pointless as i know what im going through and trust my own advice the most x

the question is gs .what have you learn from all the post and comments and the back n forth banters from subscribers on here.???

Hey lois! how you?

I seem to be waking up with aches and pains. It seems joint pain. Chest feels heavy . Clicking jaw and knees.

I did go to gym for not much there.

gs you keep posting about the same few symptoms over and over and theyre pretty standard ones for withdrawal, count yourself lucky alot of people have hundreds of symptoms that are brutal, do you have a plan?

Hey toria! I know that . Its just been hard.

I had pain before because im a gym goer. I think i told you.

Its been joint pains and stuff.

Thanks!

I learn its not a easy process and being on and off meds is very difficult .

Thanks!

Hey i know. I have brutal pain today .

Thanks!

i would stop doing heavy anything at the gym for now until your withdrawls settle some and if the with drawls keep haunting you talk to your doctor about the next plan .

Gs, we told you to slow down and even cut the gym for a while until you settle. You are making yourself worse. Take walks instead and meditation.

And like lois said, it you still have symptoms then see doc.

gs i never stop and have pain, no meds except those that touch the brain will help with withdrawal pain, lots of people trying to help here but you say the same things and never answer questions sorry to say this bluntly but this could go on for a while you have messed with your brain alot! try doing positives things x

Hey i know lolita! I took it easy yesterday. Still waking up to pain all over it seems. It makes me wanna cry.

I did do kickboxing and cycling class monday and tuesday.

It just frustrating i like being in decent shape until feeling pain daily.

It was something i enjoy since i dont do much daily anymore or get out much.

Thanks!

going to the gym does not Necessarily mean lifting weights .is more of a social thing for us anxiety sufferers.why put more pain on your already pain .does not make sense.

you should listen to advises and just do soft stuff like good walks etc for now.

I think going off med and withdrawing was a bad idea. You seem doing a bit worse. I am not a doctor and no one is on here. But, this thing is going on for too long. You really really should at least call your doctor and have a plan.

Yeah lolita! um i do classes for the social aspect. They are vigorous though.

It just my body dont like it now.

Im about the same in some ways and worse in others.

I did drive so that was ok but struggle to do much daily.

Thanks!

You see....You should talk to your doctor for another plan.

I really think you should.

Thats only my opinion.

What pain do you have toria?

Mine is all over neck and jaw and body pain and bad tightness.

I know i repeat myself but i guess i do it get off my chest and outlet since im.lonely and dont do much daily.

Thanks!

can a lower dose of a med work better than a higher dose sometimes

absolutely

Yeah i know lois! I love the gym and that was my passion exercise and lifting weights .

Now everything a project which is why im not the same person.

I know what its from and stuff.

My

Thanks!

Yeah lolita! I called before and he told me go hospital or somewhere .

I know lolita im trying to be positive but i cant feeling this way daily.

My mind feels it in a dark place.

Thanks!

why dont you just listen to his advise and go to the hospital !?

I mean, everyone is trying to help but you just resist so much and you stay really passive in all that process.

You have to see a doc so do what you have to do...

gs i keep positive and it doesnt always work but you have to work very hard

That is awesome if you are able to keep positive and pushing through you withdrawal Toria. But that is your experience.

Dont you see that gs is in big depression ?? I mean, he has been since a while. And that he needs to see a doctor. I know you want to help him go through this no med but I am a little concern about the fact that he needs to see a professionnal to make a new plan. Because even with our experiences, we are not doctors.

You were able to withdraw but gs is not well and I think, we have to be aware of that.

Yes, the meds he tried didnt work...but you know what? He changed doses. He probably did not have the right one or even the right dose and gave enough time.

Its a little delicate I think to compare his situation to yours. Maybe you were ready for this withdrawal even if it is hard hut we dint know his situation.

if i where you and in the future your doctor and you decide on meds again iwould start at half of the lowest dose or even lower.i am so sensitive to meds that any so called therapeutic dose sends me into a frenzy.

Yeah same here lois ! It sends me in a frenzy. Im scared of meds but know they have a place. I been on 3 this year so far.

Im still in a withdrawal frenzy.

I mean this isnt fun at all in life.

I was never this sick and depressed and guess its the changes and stuff.

It just feels like my body is changing.

My brain feel like that too.

I didnt have this planned for my life this year of pain and crappy feeling daily.

Thanks!

I think its the symptoms driving me in a frenzy and nobody believes me at all.

Thanks!

gs that happen to me on a higher dose once i reduce like i told you to do my frenzies Disappeared.

lolita gs has said many times that he was better before meds and to be honest i want him to do what is best for him, go on meds or stay off, and youre right its not a comparision because if i posted everything i felt youd think i was highly depressed but im not, the amount of symptoms and the extremity of them i get daily is unreal and i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy, yes i have to stay positive or try to regardless as my brain needs to be taught the right emotions to feel, oh and before you say it im not depressed or anxious as when i have a good few hours everything goes away 😃

Yeah toria glad you feel better at times.

I was a lil better before but not to this point of frenzy daily.

Withdrawal or whatever is driving me in a frenzy.

Lois should i still take the klonopin as needed or will i get tolerated on that too.

What the hospital do for me anyway?

I was gonna go but feel i would get drugged up when u go o there explaining the situation.

Thanks!

the hospital will give benzo thru your veins to calm you down.now the crisis will give you antid.should you take your benzo ?iam sure your doctor will approve of you taking the benzo.

Let us know if you decide to go.

I think it can help.

So whet if you go in psych unit lois?

Thanks!

Yeah well benzo is not for depression.

Just for anxiety .

Thanks!

Lolita they only give you benzo there .

gs you wont have better moments yet you only went cold turkey 2 weeks ago!

off course not.

If you explain them exactly who you feel, whats you have been through and whats going in and that your doctor suggest to go to hospital...And that you are sensitive and anxious about med but you need your life back then they will find a solution and suggest things.

Tell them you have negative thoughts and very low mood...

What do you have to loose?

correct the benzo is anti anxiety.now the older anti depressents tackle depression and come with less side effects .iam sure you are having depression over having physical anxiety symptoms.so you have to treat the anxiety to relieve your depression.

You know lois and toria and lolita very helpful.

I have one important question and yes i get negative intrusive thoughts and pain issues.

I been getting some halluncinations now is this from med related or did i pick this up in my mind on repeat.

I get these all of sudden could be home or out which alarms me and scares me.

Whats a good old antidepressant worth trying? Do they prescribe these?

Im very scared of my mind now.

Thanks!

It just feels like i have lost control of my mind which truly terrible.

I just went to kitchen and might hear something.

Im confused about this .

Can lois or toria shed some light please.

I fear the worst now . Thanks.

its would be a massive coincidence if you suddenly got halls naturally, gs your brain is trying to catch up with all the changes, you drank the other day for goodness sake!

your halls are all due from the chemicals in all the ssris you have been on since january.hearing things is not so bad .you more than likely have a mild reaction of phychosis .thats all.is nothing but your brain been super sensitive to your senses.

Well yeah lois and toria how do i deal with this stuff . Its overwhelming me.

I think thats what got me in a frenzy.

I say halls and thoughts are the two worst symptoms along with crying and pain now.

gs things like this always get worse before they get better, ive had/still have everything you describe and more and im still here! you need to realise it cant harm you and you need to realise that no matter what you do, go on a new drug or stay off could take months or longer! i mean look at me i dropped dose and it took me a year to get nearly stable to the point i was having nearly full good days then i got the faulty bottle which i assume doubled my dose and only took it at that dose for 4 days and im now back to basically square one, its just time, thinking positive, staying active, eating well, drinking water and being good to yourself, no magic quick answer, unless you go on a new med which may or may not work but even that takes around 3 months, do you know how strict i am, i eat the same meal every single day as im super sensitive to foods, most make me itch and drive the withdrawal anxiety sky high, i havent slept through a night for over a year, i have to do 3 walks a day to keep my mind relatively stable and its bloody bloody hard, but when i started getting good moments i realised its a long long time and yes i cant sleep or eat whatever i want but its not forever, its just time!

you two options medication.or put your big girl panties on wait until the withdrawls subside .

Yeah i know but relief is important too.

It cant be 24 7 symptoms daily and then my family wants to call crisis on me .

I understand toria thats terrible.

Thanks!

Your family have been saying that since months and they never did.

I think you should go by yourself or ask them to bring you. That way, they can also listen to what doctors will say.

Gs, you said you tried 3 meds this year..

celexa 3 months but not at same dose

zoloft couple of weeks

and what was the other one and how long?

celexa lexapro sert.those where the three

How long did he took lex?

dont recall lolita.

Lexapro was over a.months time.

Then celexa 3 months 20 mg.

Zoloft 25 to 50 mg for 5 weeks.

Thanks!

I know your story with celexa and zoloft but was it the same with lex.

Hey lolita! Um i was very tired on lexapro and would sleep hours on it the med. Zoloft was the worst though as i felt so wired and tired. Zoloft is still in me too i can tell.

Initial lexapro side effects were drowsy,dizzy,anxiety, muscles spasms which still have and exercise makes worse.

Thanks!

when you take an antidepressant it is normal to have symptoms and side effects. lexapro is more sedative than zoloft. Actually you know now that you dont like the stimulant effect of zoloft.

The symptoms you had in lex were pretty normal and you took it only a month. Remember, you will feel tired when you body will settle on a med and its fine. You have been in so much anxiety and stress, that your body will grab that little sedation to relax and rebuilt to recover. Tiredness is suppose to be the last thing to go.

I wonder if you would of last a bit long, how would you be now.

Cause you did not endure anyone really long enough...

Hey toria! How you do this for two years?

Lois was a long time too.

Lois how many meds were you on in a year?

Thanks!

i try four different ones before settling on celexa.i change so much for the same reason you are changing meds .which was foolish of me i should of stuck with the first one and i would of recovered quickly but the side effects scare the living crap out of me.so i feel your trauma.

In the past 2 years and a half, I changed too many times too. Way too much!!! Probably 8 times which is ridiculous. I should of have stay with my lexapro and just increased it instead of changing. But, I was sooo anxious and freaked out about health and sude effects. Last year at about that time of year I decided to quit the last med I was on. After a couple of weeks, everything just got so bad so I had to go to hospital and thats when I was put back on lex.

Because of all thoses changes and myself being too afraid to push through, I kind of mess up with my nervous system.

It took months to feel better.

Even now, I way better regarding anxiety and depression but I still have tiredness. But I think my body is still healing from all that.

I will never go off but I have learned to be patient even if its hard sometimes.

Hey lois and lolita having pain spells.

I dont kniw if i can take this .

I know toria is strong but pain is not good for me on top if everything.

I been in bed all day so i have lots of pain throughout my body . Its weird.

Thanks!

i feel you lolita .after reading a million n one stories about the what iffs i aint playing with my med no way jose.

what do you really what to do???

we told you that we really suggest you see a doctor !

we cant just tell you that over and over gs, please take action!

the thing is gs that these pains you are having believe it or not are Phantom feelings they dont exist in test only in your mind.so that is why doctors have a hard time trying to diagnose you with for example fibro.so every darn test that there is for this phantom pain does not exist .in other words is all in our heads according to doctors.

yes, I know!

My doctor wanted me to add a tryciclic to lex back in august call desipramine. I just did not take it. She gave it so I can have more energy. I just dont want to add more and this one, I just dont know.

I just hope to increase my energy level but not with this.

Yeah feels like full body pain.

Is this nerve pain. I never had fibro.

They say might have tmj.

Any antidepressant help pain?

Its awful um i had this on antidepressants.

Lolita i know but they do for my synptoms lolita.My family thinks im gonna do something bad u know.

The lack of energy could be from the lex.

Thanks?

Lois u ever have severe pain on or off these meds .

Its hard to deal with among other things you know.

Would it be ok to go another antidep or will my mind explode .

My lifes a mess unreal.

cymbalta and effexor good far pain and energy.they are snri

your energy will come back lolita i was the same way for many months it was dreadful now i have energy to run a marathon.

remember gs this is pain from med related /anxiety

i had severe head paresthesia which was very painful.before any meds.

I do remember lois but still doesnt help me much .

I guess all these overwhelm me and i want my life back. I cant think straight now and im just laying around is not good either.

Dont have one now as i dont work or do much andnon disability now for this.

Lois do you think i need relief from these symptoms after all these months.

I hear bad things getting on or off those two meds.

Thanks!

I hope.

This summer I had more energy but since 2 weeks Im more tired.

My digestion is not good and Im quitting some food from my daily diet.

Its just that the come back of energy is not constant. In november I will be at 1 year back on med.

If course, I hate beeing tired but I believe you saying that it will come back.

And I prefer this fatigue over what I was before.

gs they all have a bad reputation .but you cant go by what the internet says.if you need a med for mental health for life so be it.dont worry about coming off a med first worry about you getting better.

lolita the feelings of been tired or sleepy or in pain and even insomnia for some strange reason these feelings yoyo back and forth thru out recovery.

Hey lois you ever get halls?

I get them just come and go but very scary in nature.

Hey lois!

What does the half life mean?

Zoloft has 24 hour half life.

Whats this mean as far as withdrawal go?

It seems as though this

Hey lois! i think it was big mistake cold turkey the zoloft.

That been making me feel weird among other things.

Thanks!

gs my symptoms were 24/7 for many many months

so you want to treat withdrawal pain with a med? gs just go to the hospital its very evident you arent coping x

i dont get any halls or any weird symptoms any more.

i told you to split the zooloft tablet.but you did not listen.

Hey toria ! How you today?

Im just kinda more of the same .

Yeah i know its withdrawal.

Yeah true lois.

Thanks!

Yeah! Did you ever before get them i meant?

I just feel alone with all this .

Thanks!

gs feeling alone is kind of how everyone feels in withdrawal as you think nobody else understands x

no i never had halls before .but i had everything else except depression.i only experience depression when i was a teen.

Yeah i know. Its just hard i guess .

I just feel like laying around is my life these days. I get up to eat and stuff but not much else occupys my mind.

I get the halls lois and just dont know other than they freak me out today.

Thanks!

is going to take time for your brain cell signals to be synchronize.right now they are all over the place.because of all the changes you been going thru.so your brain is mad at you.only trying to explain it to you in a kindegarden way.

after withdrawls and start ups i definitely had halls audio n visual and even taste.i would taste onions in my mouth and i hate onions.

Yeah i know lois! You explain stuff well.

Its just feels like you said im all over the place.

Its a terrible feeling with pain to boot.

I do have tmj if u ever heard that.

Its like a jaw issue. I notice this before meds its like a clicking jaw causes pain and other stuff as well.

So i guess a lot going on in my body.

You know my life hasnt been that great of late. Um last year was decent i guess compared this year.

I have had issues on and off with anxiety since i was a teen and some depression.

Thanks!

Yeah dont have taste but have audio ones which freak me out.

I just feel mentally and physically off is all.

I feel disabled by this .

Thanks!

if you been suffering since a child you definitely need mental health meds.i suffered for 30plus years and i finally did something because if got so bad.you definitely need professional help thanks for sharing that information now perhaps folks on here can get a better perspective on your on going since child hood depression/anxiety

started 12.5 sertraline (usaally 50) and 125 luvox till monday then up sertaline 25 down luvox 110

Yeah i know. You know this year is different though lois. I never experience all these symptoms lois from meds. I guess from all changes going on as you said. I also was on accutane before for acne. Terrible med honestly.

I was off meds last year and doing decent for the most part.

Thanks lois!

you need long term meds gs.that coming on to only get off med becuase you are feeling good is a big nono for depression sufferers.the relapses of depression n anxiety are all too real gs.get help gs .i can only imagine what you are going thru.

good luck lynn .that sounds about right.be positive and everything will fall into place .

Hey toria! how you today?

I feel about the same today.

The feelings are there toria!

My brain been through a lot of changes.

Thanks!

Yeah well i feel worse this year on and off meds though lois. Its hard to imagine this but true.

Im getting symptoms galore is what we both saying.

Im hearing bad things too and never did before this. I wasnt this bad like last year.

So yeah i understand you lois.

Thanks!

it aint easy getting on meds .plus you did not give meds long enough to work.now is all in your hands .if you feel comfort from communicating via this forum then so be it.

Yeah thanks lois! The Zoloft was bad honestly i couldnt do much on it and now i feel so tired now . They get me in a frenzy the med.

I havent done much lately in my life .

Thanks your helpful!

gs, you havent done much because you are exhausted from all this depression and anxiety.

I just read that you have been having anxiety and depression issues since a child, you should have told us before.

Like Lois said, you need to be follow and probably start a new med buddy.

It wont dissapear like that. You need help and stop waiting and go.

Well i quit zoloft cold turkey so how that come into play. I mean just wondering whats going on and how i feel is related to that.

It wasnt that bad the anxiety issues back then. Just general anxiety.

I was on meds this year and they are tough on me .

Lexapro i slept all day on it. prior to this i was not sleeping all day. Spacey and out of it.

Celexa more of the same with muscular issues.

Zoloft awful had terrible shakes and felt

wired but tired. Got halls and still do and just feel off from quitting it.

Im sleeping a bit more thankfully.

Other than that still more of the same.

gs, you told us you were on disability.

Is it a doctor or psychiatrist who put you on that. I mean if you are, you have to have a diagnosis to be allegible for that.

Do you want to tell us about it...

So what im saying is treat one issue and get 20 other issues as well.

and you can decide to not treat it and still have multiple issues as well.

I know its hard but...

you got a point lolita.because to be on disability in the usa it aint easy.especially with trump in office.

Yeah Lolita! Its definitely hard position to be in.

Yeah my doctor put me on it.

I wanna work or go back to school and live again believe me.

It sucks life throws us these things .

I did go on them because of life changes i moved and was getting aches and pains discomfort.

Thanks!

Well i havent worked or done much this year. Been on and off meds left and right as well.

Last year was better overall.

Thanks!

what was the diagnosis for disability.was it mental .because that takes years and years you just dont get that over night.the approval ratings for that are very low.

Have you recieved a diagnosis gs???

Because you cant be put on disability without one

anyhow you need meds i dont care what anybody says .and i dont have to be a doctor to rationalized that.

so basically what youre saying is that last year you were better than this year off meds? regardless of your finally explained anxiety/depression

so if you were doing alright why the meds?

Well last year was eating good and exercising a lot and doing things .

Maybe it was a lil relapse but

I wasnt spacey and crappy feeling daily.

I dont know things seemed decent at least.

I moved and put on meds and then feel like a rollercoaster hit me .

I mean how i feel on no.meds this year who knows bit couldnt imagine it being worst .

I guess its complicated . It is what it is.

Thanks!

Well i started to have issues of pain maybe got them from gym and anxiety coming on with some things.

Anyway today i feel out of it and the latest is i stopped zoloft two weeks ago.

who ever wants gs to get medical help with meds etc.text yes .what ever gs is doing or hasnt done is his bussiness only .from all of these comments and post from you gs.oh you need meds trust me you do .and yes to cure cancer you got to suffered 20 or 100 sideeffects or dissappear .same goes with mental health.

Hey toria! Yeah i know.

I feel weirded out today so bad.

Im still in my bed still daily.

I get up to eat and then back down.

I just wish to feel better.

Thanks!

I say yes.

WE know how you feel because thats the things you keep on repeating to us several times a day gs. You ask for reassurance in the same thing everyday. Everyday you say you are low, worse, etc, etc.

But have you done anything? No!

We keep on repeating that you need medical support! Geez!!! What will it take for you to understand that! Its fustrating. Sometimes we wonder if you are not playing with us... Im sure you are suffering but get up your bed and go to the hospital now!

some stuff/infos are missing....

you felt good then you move and bam.

What happened when you moved? Moved from were?

You went back in med for a reason...I mean you have to?

wether you felt good last year or felt bad this year .the point is that right now you aint feeling too cute.so you better do something and stop beating around the bush .the time is now not last year or last month or two weeks ago.NOW

Hey Lolita! Yes i know. Its just gotten worse off and on meds . Feels like im all over the place lately is all.

Lets not forget i just stopped zoloft two weeks ago so getting symptoms obviously.

Im not meaning to complain sorry Lolita

Thanks!

Yes feeling stressed out and anxious about life and everything.

That was original anxiety and now i have meds influence on me.

Thanks!

Even if you quit zoloft, you still feel not good since so long. And from what we read since months, you need to be treated now.

We all see it but you seem to be the only one who doesnt want to see and admit it.

I dont know why we keep on encouraging you because its obvious, you wont do a thing.

i really dont know what to say anymore gs what do you think about the situation? do you think it is your anxiety or withdrawal? i know youd be very lucky to not have withdrawal after all the messing

Well yeah been through all the meds too lolita. Cant you see this ?

How did you feel when you did all that?

I only complain of same symptoms.

I do get reassurance from you which helps .

Im scared of meds is the issue . Its not wanting to get help.

Yes lois! Im in withdrawal right now and not feeling good from all the changes you said it yourself .

Yes i understand its now and nothing else mattters.

Why do you think i feel all these symptoms?

Is any of it withdrawal and med related is all ask?

Hey Toria! Of course changes has to have a lot to do with it. These mess with the brain chemistry nervous system.

I just confused what to do next is all.

Withdrawal is very difficult.

Honestly it feels like that now but its painful so i complain daily about it.

Im mentally out of it and physically too.

Also feel like flu like issues going on.

flu like symptoms is completely normal for withdrawal i get that symptom, do you have a bath? epsom salts are amazing, help pain, are natural and contain magnesium so calm you a little x

its both gs.med related plus your natural anxiety .

also every symptom youve mentioned ive had in withdrawal and i havent started a new med so not start up related x

but i know when i updosed i felt blooming awful x

Yeah i understand! So what do they do fir me in hospital or where you want me go?

I go another med ok so.then more startup and withdrswal still am.i correct?

Hows your anxiety ?

I think im just scared about all this and my symptoms is all so i stay in bed not feeling well.

Of course it makes me anxious who wouldnt with the symptoms.

U ever get halls toria? scary thoughts?

that is correct.gs

Oh ok lois! I got up and had something to eat.

My main concern is how i feel obviously.

I hear things or voices lois and scary thoughts as well. Am i losing it lois or toria? I really enjoy your posts lois.

Um im very scared to say that .

I never had this in my life.

I thought it anxiety and i know you sick of me. I just need to know why this keeps happening to me daily as scared to do much.

Thanks!

thats the name of this ssri game gs there is nothing you can do about it except take more meds for more start up dramas or except that they are withdrawls combine with your natural anxiety and keep it moving.

iam not sick of you .only trying to help you.

Hey lois! i already have a lot of drama as you can see.

What causes these halls audibibles to fire up?

Thanks!

Do u think my issue is more severe in your opinion?

it sounds like your issue is either escalating or a possible plateau .

Yah i know! I feel just really out of it tonight with the irritability and lowish feelings. Fuzzy headed feeling.

Is it ok to take a multivitamin and fish oil and b 12 supplements. I try these to spark me energy. I try joint supplement too.

Anyone try anything natural that enhances your energy and what not.

Thanks!

get a b12 shot you will have energy.shots are instant while the pills take time.

Oh ok lois! You ever been in withdrawal? I know u been in startup .

How you handle it? Did you ever really sick like me with all the symptoms?

It seems i have a hard time dealing with whats going on i mean the changes.

It is very hard to deal with as you know.

My nervos system is all over the place right now . Thats the changes i mean.

My brain is confused i think .

When all this going on did you still do a lot of things or not.

Thanks!

I did go in withdrawal and its not fun.

I was having all the symptoms but no halls. But I started to have major panic attacks after 3 or 4 weeks and things really escalated into a big depression.

When they put me back on meds and benzo, it calmed my panics after 2 weeks but still had to wait it out a few weeks to be better. And to have a more constant relief, it was about few months.

Your low energy is because of all this anxiety/depression. You have no idea how exhausting it is for your body to be always on edge like this.

If I was you, I would only take magnesium and/or omega but dont take vitamines until you settle. In withdrawal we are more sensitive.

The other thing my friend had me dc zoloft because of the auditory hallucinstions which i still get by the way.

What. type of halls did you all get toria and lois?

Its the scariest thing to me along with thoughts and i guess it all is awful.

Why is my mind over active with this stuff? Its like it automatically wants to go there it seems.

Thanks!

Well yeah lolita! halls and intrusive thoughts. can alarm you so that creates anxiety . I do feel low feelings too.

Im so scared of these things honestly.

So i stay in bed because im exausted from this stuff.

Thanks!

Hey the reason i scared of hospital is what i tell them i get halls and scary thoughts. They wanna put me away .

I hope i didnt develop something new .

Thanks!

Your mind is over reacting I guess.

Lois said she never had halls. I didnt also even when I was in withdrawal.

Only a doctor can examine and see with you what it is.

Is it really halls or flashes ? Do you hear voices that tells you stuff?

Its hard to say gs... It can be sort of a small psychosis reaction, or only anxiety.

Is there any person in your family (parents, grand parents, sister, brothers or cousins) that have mental issues like anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, psychoses or autism???

so you dont go because you are scare to tell them your real symptoms like halls etc... You are scare to have a diagnosis, right!?

But if they finaly know the truth, they will treat you for that. They wont put you away. What is that from? They might check you until you settle and that would be good.

Yeah Lolita! I just been off feeling bad.

I do get them and feel very sickly .

I dont know but i just wanna say thanks.

I gonna try and sleep . I feel brain zaps sensations.

Thanks!

constantly get scary thoughts gs only get a break from them now and again but when i started settling they went away x

gs i had a voice in my head telling me to harm myself guess what its gone away x

i already told you i had vision /audio/taste/halls.my vision was i would look at still photos on my phone and they seem to move .my audio was i would hear strange sounds when it was quite .and my taste i would taste onions in my mouth and i hate onions i wrote this many times on this forum.but that was because i was withdrawing from four meds back to back in a matter of months.once i started the celexa it took 8 months for all the withdrawls n startup to dissapeared.

and the only reason torias symptoms keep coming and going or settling is because she is still taking celexa.she has not gone cold turkey today.shes weaning very slowly .turtle slow to be exact.because she knows the consequenses of these meds.

they dont put people away anymore gs.they dont practice that gig any more .state hospitals are almost not in Existent.your audio halls are nothing but the cells in your brain not firing in Synchronization.due to all changes from ssri chemicals you put your self thru.the worst was going cold turkey that is a big nono.you want stability back in your life .go back on celexa or lexapro those are the two easiest meds to get on.

gs you better be lucky you have disability insurance .you can go to any health facility with no problem.

lolita i said i had halls .audio/vision/taste

one night i took one pill of amitripline for sleep not knowing it was an antiphychotic med my doctor said it was a sleeping pill mind you!and the next day i woke up with wiggly/zigzag vision.and it was not migraine with aura.it was a bad reaction from the amit.it also happen to me with the martizapine.that lasted for a whole week .but i knew it was a reaction and i held on to the next med hoping for no bad reactions .and i finally got relief from celexa ten milligrams.and the occasional benzo.

gs if you where put on disability for mental health and if you dont take medication for mental health they will revoke your disability payments/insurance.iam very well educated on this kind of stuff in the usa.

sorry, I didnt know lois

I mean that you had halls etc before when in withdrawal.

that happened to me lolita from the withdralws of the four meds i was too scare to stay on.just like gs.but after over coming my fear because the withdrawls just made evertything worse i preservere and stuck to my celexa until after the 8 months i felt like a new person.thank goodness

Hey lois! You ever wake up achey and sore all over on meds or off.

I mean i havent worked out in 3 days.

I love to work out but havent since kickboxing tuesday.

yes gs .its only normal to have aches n pains as we age either from meds or just naturally from working out.we cant stay young forever with no issues gs.

Yeah i understand just feels like muscle and joint pains.

Like i havent done much lately so was just wondering about that.

Well today i feel like low and it comes out of nowhere.

I could be talking to you on here and then next minute bam i feel a low spell.

Hows everyone today?

Thanks!

your having windows n waves thats normal.

Yeah it feels like that all day your right

the pain isnt age its withdrawal

So lois you can get bad reactions to these meds right?

bad reactions can come in any form due to old age /meds/gym/withdrawls from anything /and the list goes on .

you are in withdrawls my friend and one day you may be feeling lovely and the next day you are worse than ever.i feel sorry for you.but you brought it upon your self.hate to tell you .iam sure you aint no rookie on the internet.

with information.

Hey lois! Whats good for aches and pains?

I feel it all over my body but could be from wear and tear.

Thanks!

one tylonel with one advil together.

is from withdrawls and possibly wear m tear also.

Hey Lois! Feeling weird and kinda fluish .

When you werent well how did you manage everything coming at ya during withdrawal.

I feel like everything is coming at me daily.

Fluish,bad thoughts,halls,mood swings,low mood,feeling like laying around and apathetic,negative,boredom,negative thinking, aches and pain in body and headaches.

And more.I mean i have to say i did go to store but that wasnt easy either.

Just felt moody and out of it at store.

Thanks!

Lolita what did your depression feel like in withdrawal?

I mean what made you depressed worse?

Thanks!

Hey Lois! You ever hear of 5 htp for mood.

I hear katiecogs takes it.

I use to read her posts while on celexa and she mention she dont take celexa anymore but takes 5htp if im not mistaken.

Thanks!

i have no experience with 5thp.you should try it .something better than nothing.

My main issue was always anxiety but after being so long switching med because I was too scared of side effects, I became a bit depress. You have to know that both often comes together if one is not managed.

Anyway, when I decided to stop med, I started having all sort of symptoms, was pretty low, and having real panic attacks and it all start spiraling into a bad depression. I shouldnt have stop med and stick it out because it wasnt a nice moment to live.

Ask if its okay to take benzo with that supplements....

And I would start with magnesium glycinate and 3 omega, Those will help even on med or without.

But trying too many stuff is not the way to go also.

Maybe you can ask Katecog about the 5htp.

The thing is you want a quick fix but nothing will procure you that.

5thp makes you tires so with the benzo you bound to be more tired from what i read.

Hey yeah i tried those with not much luck.

I just get a lot of symptoms hour to hour and its hard i guess to live comfortably.

Thanks!

I mean omegas and magnesium.

if you dont mind feeling tired from 5thp.i say take it.

You have to take it for a few weeks so that it help.

Yeah i know.

I feel low today just in bed and had breakfast.

Thanks!

I feel like a lil flu like symptoms.

Thanks!

just a lil flu like symptoms.lol your too funny

Yeah it is what it is.

Im not moving much lois execept to eat.

I just dont feel positive when this occurs daily you know.

I wanna watch the game but cant do much.

Thanks!

I been pouting and crying and just feel moody and i feel it badly lois.

I trying to focus and cant anymore.

I wanna be like well soon.

Thanks!

try the 5thp.if you dont like the way you feel on it you can always stop.it does not have withdrawls and the reviews on it are mostly good 9out of 10 are good reviews.

Yeah lois!

I have been struggling bad today lois.

How do you fair when you go through this?

I felt my mind is going all over the place.

Thanks!

I feel very sick. Is this withdrawal and what else lois?

What do you think it is gs???

You know what it is and you know what you should do.

Yeah i hear ya! Today been hard. I just feel the symptoms at me and stuff.

You feel like all the last days and weeks my poor gs. What you report has been the same.

Going in withdrawal is long, very long and you dont know if its really going to be the best avenue for you.

Toria has been doing this since 2 years.

Are you ready for that?

theres a percentage for each symtom gs.is withdrawls is also your natural anxiety also your natural depression .because you been suffering from anxiety depression since your teens .that is part of the reason you feel this way.and also you went cold turkey thats a big nono.and if you want to feel normal again you have take ssri stabilize and withdrawl slowly like toria is doing.

can you tell me what the face book support group says about all the madness you been thru????

Yeah i know. Its just zoloft i felt awful on it but yeah.

I feel like the flu today and out of it.

I took omega and stuff.

My brain is tired of all this months and months.

Im out with family at moment.

I know what you mean.

Thanks!

I dont go on there anymore lois.

Thanks!

good job.

Yeah lois! i went out and still feel sickly .

I dont know what wrong with me with withdrawal and what not.

I need to get out and live again lois.

Been 9 months lois.

I cant do this anymore 😔.

I use to enjoy life and now im in bed sickly daily.

Lois by the way i wasnt in bed all the time before the meds so .

gs, maybe you were not in bed before but you still had depression and anxiety history so you dont know, even without med maybe you would be at almost the same place.

Anyway, you have to stop thinking about the past. Its done, you have no power on the past.

But you have power over what you do and decide to help yourself for the future.

If you keep focusing on things you have no power or control on, your drama will just go on.

So lolita you dont believe the meds had any affect on how i feel.

These meds arent for everyone and they poop out i hear.

Potato is having a hard time on zoloft too lois.

Thanks!

Im glad they help some people but everyone is different.

I feel more sensitive to.meds this time around too.

Last time celexa wasnt easy but wasnt this bad.

Thanks!

Off course they have affected you. Mostly because you changed 3 times this year and never go further than the initial side effects.

But what I was saying if you read correctly is that maybe you "initial" signs of anxiety and depression that you have had since a teen and that made you go on med a year ago, would of increase or escalated to bigger...even without med.

Gs, you read so much on meds and reviews but remind that its mainly negative because the people that have good luck and do good on, they dont chat on forums.

I know so many people taking med without problems.

You are so scared of them that your mind have decide to hate them and only see the bad aspects.

Its your choice buddy!

Yes you have withdrawal but you also suffer because of your depression, etc.

Yeah i guess now i have.

I do know people who do ok as well.

I was positive on meds and use to listen to katiecogs and lois about meds all the time on celexa. I was on 20 mg as you know .

I started feeling tired on lexapro and slept all day on it for a while.

I felt a zombie and still do.

Try celexa lil better but with same results. I felt aches and pains in muscles.

Then zoloft was awful for me.

We are all different is all i say.

Initally i had some anxiety and aches and pains in joints and muscles .

I have something called tmj.

Thanks!

Im not against anyone .

I did move to a new place and stuff december. I was always the arrogant one at gym.

I wanted to get a job to help my nephew.

I did try a job for a week in december and made it through .

They let me go it a temp job but said i did well.

Started to feel anxious about stuff in january after holiday.

So i was not sleeping at this time.

I dont know but went on lexapro and sleep and sleep.

gs our stories are completely different like i said to you yesterday i was on them many years

you have severe withdrawls from going cold turkey plus you also have anxiety n depression on top of the withdrawls.yes potato is having a hard time from also going cold turkey.these meds take many months to work.

Hey lois! I feel tired and just the same as before.

I get these random thoughts and halls.

Um i also feel tingling hands and feet and numbness feelings woke me up.

Thanks!

withdrawls.

Yeah feels like it. Even if i know still doesnt help matters.

I feel like bed rest a lot but not good for me.

Your right though lois.

you have induced depression from the withdrawls that is why you are tired .

Yeah! Im trying to get myself going and still feel like you said.

I feel like unwell. Your right though.

Whats induced depression?

Thanks!

induced meaning you are getting more depression from the withdrawls and all the changes you put your self thru.the only way i x those horrible withdrawls was getting on celexa.

Hey lois! I did a class and very sore afterwards . It consist of jump roping and pushups. Im beat and aches and pains. I enjoy classes for the people interactions mostly. I did struggle with fatique and what not.