Inguinal hernia - advice needed - what to do
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Hello
I’m quite new on the forum here, and would really appreciate some advice. I learned recently that I have a small inguinal hernia (about 2.5 cm). I’ve done a little reading here and elsewhere about hernia surgery, and must admit, that while I’d like to get this fixed, I’m quite scared of what I read concerning the possibility that chronic pain could result from the surgery. So my question to everyone here whose knowledge and judgment certainly goes well beyond mine … what would you do if you were me?
Here’s my situation: I’m 67 years old and in good physical shape, having been a distance runner for the past two decades. I’m not on any medications whatsoever. My family doctor has described my hernia as “small”. He feels I really don’t need to do anything about it at this time. A second doctor – a surgeon with lots of experience with hernias – has also stated than an option is definitely watchful waiting. He stated that the risk of anything serious developing was quite small (though not non-existent). He did though, that “these things don’t get better on their own” and most people eventually (with ten years or so) end up getting surgery.
I did search around for a surgeon who was experienced with non-mesh repairs and this doctor certainly is. He does both types, but is an advocate for, and experienced with the Shouldice-type of repair. I do understand that the recurrence rate is a little higher when mesh is not used, and I would accept that because I just want to avoid mesh. But in terms of chronic pain issues after surgery he has indicated that as many as 30% of people getting the surgery, can possibly have chronic pain issues. (I read different statistics in different places, but if this number is anywhere near accurate, this really concerns me.)
Currently, my hernia is only mildly symptomatic. I am aware of it, expecially at the end of the day when I have a few sensations (not exactly pain, but some different feelings there). It’s probably more of an issue mentally than physically for me, because it’s on my mind. Also maybe I’ve scared myself some by reading some of the online post-surgery stories.
The other factor for me is that I currently have a shoulder tendonosis issue that causes fairly constant, though low-level discomfort for me. This is sometimes a challenge for me to deal with, and I certainly don’t want to add to this with any chronic pain that might result from hernia surgery.
I should add that I’ve also read about exercises that could possibly resolve such hernias, or at least keep symptoms from becoming worse. I’ve already started some of these, and am prepared to commit fully to these if they have potential.
Anyway, I know there aren’t any “right” answers, but I would really appreciate any thoughts concerning what you would do if you were in my place.
I do have a surgery date schedule in about a month, but I’m really wondering now, whether I want to go through with it, or wait.
Again, thanks in advance for any thoughts or advice! I just don’t know what to do.
Norton
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shirley133 norton87766
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barbara34712 shirley133
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I think you are wrong with the advice you have given norton87766 because a hernia doesn't just go away, it gets bigger so what is the point of living with it. You may be unfortunate with your mesh repairs, but that does not mean every patient is. I have had 5 mesh repairs, and this 5th one is the only one that has bothered me.
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scott79586 barbara34712
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shirley133 scott79586
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judith14588 norton87766
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Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. We are calling this a mesh issue and if it wasn't for the mesh this 20% of people would be just fine. I don't know about them but I had a very large hole and needed a mesh. There is nothing else. If the intestines that poked through this hole got strangulated, it would have killed me. Yes I am dealing with scar tissue right now, but prior to getting the mesh after my first hernia surgery I had an intestinal obstruction. I went to the ER and spent 4 days in the hospital with an NG tube up my nose. That first hernia surgery without mesh didn't work. The mesh surgery did.
The point is the mesh is trying to heal a previous issue. Yes there is an alternative, death. I prefer life and a mesh.
The only one that really knows whether Norton needs a mesh or not is Norton and his doctor.
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barbara34712 norton87766
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norton87766
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At this point, even though I’m nervous about it, I think I’ve now resolved that I will go ahead and have the surgery. I do understand that there are various arguments in favor of the use mesh, but since I have a doctor who is experienced with a pure tissue approach and who is not hesitant to use it in my case, my plan is for a repair without mesh. My understanding is that the possibility of recurrence will be slightly (?) higher, but I’m willing to accept this.
Again, thank you so again for the thoughts and wisdom on this. There is certainly no substitute for contact with those who have been through it.
TheToad norton87766
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shirley133 norton87766
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alan17569 norton87766
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I was pretty much in your place. A few years back while working outdoors, I had a combo coughing/sneezing attack from pollen and foolishly held it all in. Noticed a little lump later in the evening and doctor confirmed a small, left inguinal hernia. He advised wait and watch. While I was only bothered a bit when on my feet for long periods, a dull ache, I played tennis and did all other physical activities. But the hernia was always on my mind. I didn't care for it.
So nearing end of 2016 I was advised my health insurance wouldn't be available into 2017 and so was my motivation for surgery. I located a surgeon who specializes in laparoscopic with mesh and made appointment. He also said it was small and didn't need to be addressed, that I could do what I liked without any immediate concern. My feeling was better to get it over with sooner rather than later as healing would be easier at 56 than 66 or 76. The surgeon was able to squeeze me in before year end, but at hospital rather than surgical center as the center was booked solid through early 2017.
I was petrified as never had any sort of hospital experience, surgery, etc. All that worry was for naught as it really was nothing in the scheme of things. He does mesh, a large 4x6" patch so a greater area distributed as to pressure. Makes sense. No glue or staples and held in place simply by pressure. Three small incisions, two really tiny below belly button and one slightly larger just to right side of belly button.
So the worst part was the ride home after the surgery. Dehydration. Had to stop and get a gallon of water about half way home. Otherwise is was quite a non event in that I never needed to take anything for discomfort even though I had a script for oxy. I had a bit of trouble sleeping for a few days as am a side sleeper and incision area was sort of crunched. On my back there was no discomfort at all. It was also a little uncomfortable as to waistband of pants for about a week, also the incision area. But second day post surgery I did a lot of walking along with normal daily activity less exercise. I live alone and had no problem's at all. Within a week I was doing light exercise, upper body, incline squats, etc. I did wait the month as directed to heavy weight or pretty much anything I wanted to do and now almost 2 moths post surgery I almost forget it ever happened.
Forgot to mention that I was a little bloated for a few weeks after surgery as being inflated takes time to dissipate after. But no big deal. I also found the cost to be very reasonable as even though out of pocket, with insurance as to the negotiated price it came in at $3,400.00 total vs. claims for 15k.
So it's as if I never had the hernia, flat again as the right side, no sensations of any kind anywhere and as to incisions, only the larger is still visible, barely and likely not for long.
Can't imagine anyone being more scared in advance than I was and can honestly say I'm really glad I showed up for it as had my doubt's.
Surgeon was Dr. Robert Josloff and hospital was Abington. Dr. Josloff said there was nothing to worry about and he was right. Of course he does so many he could probably do it in his sleep.
Hope this helps and good luck.
norton87766
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Just an update. It's been about four months since I originally posted here. My dilemma was whether to have surgery or not for my inguinal hernia, and if surgery, what type. Well, about nine weeks ago, after much deliberation, I did have surgery. The surgery was open, pure-tissue (non mesh). Recovery has been reasonably good, with the usual discomfort and just minor pains - especially for the several weeks. Currently, aside from some lingering surface (skin) sensitivity to clothes rubbing, and aside from the odd, infrequent and low-level twinge, things are pretty good. I'm glad I did decide to proceed with surgery.
Thank you again, to everyone who responded to my original post. Much appreciated.
DavidUK norton87766
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Hi there Norton, just found this thread.
Glad surgery went well for you. So have you had Shouldice repair or something similar?
May I ask who was your doctor?
Many thanks,
David
ron86882 norton87766
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I’ve been in your exact situation for the past three years !!! Finally scheduled shouldice surgery for mid April. But I’m still extremely nervous and hesitant to do it because my inguinal hernia still doesn’t really bother me. Can you give me some more details on your surgery ? How would you compare the symptoms you were feeling before versus the feelings you’re describing now ? Did you have a local anesthesia or general anesthesia ? How bad was it for the first few days and how big is your scar ? Giving myself stomach pain already worrying about this ......so as much information as you would be willing to share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance