Insomnia??

Hi Dom

I've opted to go from 20 to 40 and am also wary of the side effects kicking off again. So I'm going to take 40 one day and 20 the next for the first couple of weeks in the hope that'll be the same as going up to 30 and will therefore be more of a gradual increase.

What day or week are you on Kirk? Your insomnia went didn't it? If you're stuck with the capsules could you razor blade them in half somehow? 20 one day and 40 the next then back again sounds like a roller coaster to me but then I am so ultra wary now. Are you sure your doctor can't order in 10mg for you? I'm so desperate to get sleep I routed through a skip that I knew had my discarded Trazodone in ... but didn't find it. Did you get the fifth or sixth week "blip"?

How's your day today?

Ugh Dom, 

It’s 6:40 am and I didn’t sleep at all. I’d sleep for 20 min each maybe then wake up. Ans esch time with lots of panic. This is a nightmare. Now my anxiety has heightened which has increased my GI tract probs ans I’m still having vertigo probs.  I think I pushed myself this weekend. I did say too much with my family and his family. And my body wasn’t ready for that. I was so about to have s panic attack at his cousins house. It was pretty bad st the end. The meds didn’t help much. 

I am miserable right now. Now I’m scared to up my meds or change them.

I still want to try trazadone. How did you order trazadone without your doctor? I’m so glad being with the girlfriend was a positive experience. I knew it would be . 

Not sure what the next step here should be. 

Maybe our dose is too low. X

Oh Tina I am so sorry your sleep got worse. Did you take anything for sleep? I took 1/2 Zopiclone twice so that is the only reason that I slept. My Christmas was much quieter than yours by the sound of it. I only saw my GF and her daughter so there was little chance of stress. There weren't lots of people like at yours.

Do the panic attacks actually happen? Or do you just feel like you will have one?

Yep I want to up my dose yesterday but will the insomnia get worse? I am yawning more lately which is either a good sign or my body is crying out.

Okay so have you now got some time to chill out on your own again? I plan a massage, Radox bath and lavender for tonight I might go to bed later too so that I get up later instead of lying there; but seriously Tina, we have to stop this Insomnia somehow. Is time the only solution we have?

Yeah I got it from inhouse pharmacy. No idea if they deliver to The States and I'd never recommend self medicating but Trazodone vs mega addictive sleep meds kind of wins the day for me.

I hope your today improves. Don't forget the breathing exercises. I wear a stress meter and they work!

Dom x

How's today going Tina? You know what they say about weeks 4 and 5? "Hold the dose" Just had a sardine and spinach sandwich for the Omegas and definitely not for the taste x

I Even took 2 Xanax before bed and stil didn’t s sleep! I think that’s how bad my panic and adrenal failure was. I took my prozac at 7 am then took a Xanax and a half today at 9:30 and my body just started chillin out. BUt still wreaking  havoc on my abdomen and gi. 

No not an actual

Panic attack. Just super panicky and shaky and a little nauseous and all that jaz. I was trying hard to keep it together for or husband family . He wasn’t tryinf hard to get us out early. Gosh it was awful. IM still here trying to sleep. I don’t even care if its in the middle of the day. I need sleep so bad. 

We came back home at 6:30 last night and I was feeling terrible. I took my meds (Xanax) and still felt crappy and couldn’t sleep

St all. Bf felt awful. So he didn’t sleep cuz he felt bad. I ended up on sofa as to not disturb him. Didn’t really work. And very time I woke up every 10–15 min I had panic. I think cuz he was there and I feel the need to entertain him and also the whole weekend was too busy! 

But then he went home. I’m feeling just ehhh right now. Tried to eat to maybe help me sleep. Eggs, rasperrries/blueberries , turkey bacon and granola. We’ll see. This jive is tough. So tough. But I’m trying hard to stick through it. How are you tonight?? I am sooooooo glad to hear you got decent rest over the holiday!!! 

Believe it or not I like sardines (but it is America so it’s probably loaded with sodium and that’s whyI like it ) and spinach. Hmmm I should try that. What bread? Do you shop at reg grocery store or organic? 

Tina you did something massive! You made it over there despite all you are going through. And while or BFs and GFs can try to understand, they're never going to truly get what we're going through. Nobody but us Prozac griefers can. But I bet they are more understanding than we realize. I mean I just think everything is going to be a disaster lately, but then Prozac has stopped the actual panic attacks for both of us hasn't it?

Well I can rest if I take enough meds, but took less last night and the plan is to take less again tonight. One of my presents was a lavender set LOL so I might give that a try too.

Can you get an actual sleeping tablet to help you sleep? I have the benzo Ativan but haven't gone near it for weeks. Meant to help you sleep but I was always too scared to take a full one.

Hey sleep or rest wherever and whenever you can find it, and you've got Christmas out of the way now so maybe you can get some you time to chill with no big events on the horizon to get anxious about. You came home at 6:30 in the morning or at night? If you mean in the morning then that is just out there - I couldn't have managed that!

I read about that Claire Weekes and her "floating through anxiety" instead of fighting it. It seemed to work a little. Worth a look?

Are your ears ringing at all? That is another side effect that I am trying to get used to. Like I've been out all night at a rock concert or something.

Haha well I like them occasionally and brown seeded bread 'cause that white bread ain't good for anxiety, but blueberries, eggs and raspberries are so you are obviously researching too.

We'll be experts and lifers on here by the time we get to 12 weeks.

Sleep time here soon (optimistically put) so I'll catch you tomorrow I guess. Try the old 3-3-3 method next time you get panicky. It helped me. Name three different things, then listen for three different things, then wiggle three parts of your body like your arms and ankles ... mad but it helped me.

This time next year we'll be laughing at what we went though this last week or five

Dom x

PS Am a veggie so my depression wasn't helped 'cause I didn't know about B12. Organic milk but no preference on the rest. How about you?

Just wrote a long reply. No idea why it is being modded x

I hate when that happens.  Please tell me now your sleep went when you wake up. 

I finally calmed down a little. My sister made me breakfast and I ate a little and tried to relax and actually fell asleep at 1pm-2:30pm  and I woke up feeling like it was a nap. So I guess that’s good. 

The doc officsllly prescribed the trazadone. Nervous to try it. 

What are you gonna do? Any changes? Did you order the traz? How are you able to do that in UK without doctor? 

I do hope you got rest! I’m this together friend. So nervous I don’t sleep tonight. 

Hello Tina,

I just PM'd my modded comment.

My sleep is still dire and today I woke up totally depressed and anxious.

Wow so you got the Trazodone! How much are you meant to take each night? I can't wait to hear your results! Are you going to up your Prozac too? I'm nervous too but excited that it might work!

My Traz won't be here for 3 weeks. Details in PM I hope you take yours. It seems to be a common combination and of course it isn't addictive

Dom x

Hi dom, 

I will check the message! 

Ya I emailed doctor last night about insomnia and she put the trazadone immediately through so now I just have to go to pharmacy and wait for them to have it ready. But dom, I read reviews on here about it ans freaked out.  So don’t know what to do! 

Hello Tina,

What time is it there? I imagine it is early. I tried a very small dose before and it definitely makes you sleepy. What did you read that freaked you out? It's only for sleep for us so were there bad reviews regarding sleep? How did you sleep last night?

Dom x

I woke up at 3:30 am! lol. So iMessage you an hour ago at 4:30 am. Now it’s 5am.

Don’t think I’ll be going back to bed with sll my doctor appt today sooo... 

I got 6 hours of sleep! I would’ve taken 3! So I’m thankful. That was just with 2 Xanax and lavendar. (Oh I’m an addicted alright. I don’t even care. When i get better I’ll stop. You will go. Trust me). 

Well as soon as I checked my email and saw she added trazadone I came back to this “patient” sight we’re on and added “trazadone” discussion board and literally everyone said crappy stuff like it made them feel like someone got em with a bat and drugged them but they slept alright and then coming off Of it was a terrible experience. Oddly enough it hasn’t white  deterred me but I think I’ll wait till after I up prozac. 

Wait why won’t your doc give you prozac? Thought you were already on it? 

Day 31 for me. I think 32 now. In it together tho. And that’s the most comforting. 

Yep 6 hours is more than a lot of non Prozacers get! I'd definitely try the Trazodone at least once. It isn't addictive. But then I am desperate to get off the Zopiclone. It really sounds like your panic is calming down too. Wow I am the same there too; I need to manage myself better as my qualities got me here too. Do the CDs really help? Weird thing is that even if you say yes I probably won't try them. Just pathetic today. The steps back really get me.

The hold the dose thing is from the 'prozac timeline' that you can find. It says most people think about changing dose in weeks 4 and 5, but that it is generally a bad idea. But I still feel I should up LOL.

Good luck at the docs. I tried to get an appointment but have to wait until New Year.

I'd love to try that group therapy! I bet you fiund some great new empathetic friends there. Wish I could come too but it's a bit of a trek. Might ask my doc about anything here.

You know every night I plan to take no sleep meds ... then after an hour of lying there I accept the inevitable and take 1/2 a Zopi.

Doc wanted me to just take Traz on it's own but then started talking about crazy doses so I stopped it. I started on only 25mg but she was on about 300 I think. No way do I want to be on that much, and anyways Prozac worked last time. Sadly I binned the tablets in a big skip. Tried to find them but needle in a haystack.

Be interested to see if you do up your dose and how the Trazodone goes. You'll always here the complaints about any med as people who are like it are less likely to post. Try it once?

We really are at the same point. Day 34 here.

Let's stay strong and keep going! We're definitely in this together and it will end well I am certain.

Dom x

PS Please ask if you can have 40mg Prozac and still have Trazodone 'cause of course it is another AD. I know you can with 20mg Prozac.