Is it Hip or is it Spine :( :(

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Hello wink I'm in my 70s, limp painfully all the time and just had a good old cry. I'm very anxious to know if all you kind people who have been through hip agony can identify with the pain I'm goingthrough to be MORE hip related than lumbar please.....

I'm in East Anglia UK, I have seen both a hip surgeon and a spinal one but at the moment both are depressingly undecided whether this horrendous leg pain is coming from my hip or my spine. I don't get any "grinding noise" and no cervical issues but I can't walk at all some days. Today all the pain seems to be centered in one bit of my outer bum cheek. Don't get it here a lot but it's agony. I'm having to use a rollator to just get across my lounge!

I'm currently wearing 2 morphine patches - not helping- but after taking 400mg iboprufen, amitriptyline and paracetamol the pain lessens and I can sometimes walk alright. Those times are absolute heaven!!! 

I'm a normal weight and eat healthily but when groin/thigh pain is horrendous I can't get in or out of cars or onto a bed without physically lifting the leg nor can I lift that leg even a millimeter when lying flat. I can no longer manage to go up and down steps & I've learnt not to get anywhere near floor level because I just  can't get back up!  Sleeping? there is no way I can turn over unless I grip the bedsheets between my teeth to stifle the  crying out.  And in the night I get bad bi-lateral  shin/knee pain. Every bit of my pain disappears when I sit. And lessens considerably when I lean over a supermarket trolley.

Two years ago I had a lumbar MRI showing some spinal stenosis. A month ago I had 2nd Lumbar MRI.  I  had a hip Xray months ago which showed a marked less space inside one hip than the other and a bit of a bone spur. This coming Wednesday  I'm getting the results of this 2nd lumbar MRI and the following day I'm having a hip injection into the (groin??) - a day hospital admission. The hip surgeon I saw months ago suggested I had this before any THR  because, i quote, "At least, if it works, we will know your pain is coming from your hip". 

Both surgeons at the moment are undecided where exactly the leg pain is coming from. So your opinion would be most welcome please. Ive been in such bad pain for so long now it's as if I'll never get to the bottom of it so I'd really appreciate your own opinion going by what you yourself went through.I know you're not medically trained but just need to know if any of what I've written sounds familiar.

Many many thanks in advance,

Sarah.

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    Sarah

    From my experience that sounds like your hip . I had bum cheek pain, groin pain , thigh pain and the classic hip idea is not being able to get into the car . I too had to lift my leg in . My surgeon also said if the injection works we will know it's coming from your hip and it did.. brilliantly for 8 months . Then I had a hip replacement . I too had a bone spur . Been 8 months and now more or less pain free. I

    Hope you have a new hip quickly if so and we have all she's a tear , your not alone !

    Good luck xx

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    Dear Sarah

    I'm so sorry that you are in so much pain. I've often said it on this forum and make no apologies for doing so yet again.

    If your frame and in particular your back is not in correct alignment then there is a strong possibility that it will result in some degree of discomfort or real pain.

    You can have X rays and MRI scans but they may not find the reason for the pain so I urge members to consider seeing a good chiropractor. Not a McTimoney one please. I'm speaking as someone who has had great results over some twenty five plus years from one.

    Cheers Richard

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      Yes I will certainly look along this route if I need to. Thank you Richard.
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      Dear Sarah

      My comments were really directed towards members in general and assume that if hip surgery is needed then that should be carried out.

      Cheers Richard

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    Take one thing at a time.

    Once you are evaluated by a back surgeon of your options spinal stenosis is repaired by spinal surgery and therapy rehab. Decompressive laminectomy, which relieves pressure on the spinal nerve roots, is the most common procedure for relieving spinal stenosis. This surgery may be done with or without spinal fusion. I had this done 10 years ago. My back felt much better and off the pain meds. However it did not help the hip pain.

    The right time for joint replacement surgery is a common concern. Many factors are important to think about: general health, recovery from other procedures,time away from work, family commitments, and the time it will take you to get better afterwards. Most people decide the time is right when their hip pain prevents them from living comfortably. In many cases, arthritis pain will prevent you from doing very simple things. Perhaps you cannot take care of your home or family, or you can no longer do daily tasks. You must make the individual decision about the right time to have surgery once you have been evaluated by a hip surgeon. 

    First stregthen the back as this this will be an important procedure for hip replacement. Osteoarthritis is the main cause for THR.  If surgery is needed.

    Injections are only temporary for both spinal stenosis and osteoarthritis / Hip injury usually requiring THR. A X-ray will show the doc the condition of the hip joint if you haven't seen a orthopedic hip specialist I recommend that to,be next course of action.

    if back or hip the doctors can make an evaluation from your tests by working together in your best interests and advise you on their professional recommendations. 

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    Hi Sarah. Could well be hip. I relate to much of what you say. I used to walk some days bent in half as if I was sitting but standing up. (Does that even make sense?) turning in bed..... I wish we could magically just turn without moving.

    I've had 1 hip done. So so much better. Ready to do the other 1 now.

    Good luck!!

    Don't worry about having a cry. It truely helps sometimes.

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    Your posting describes my hip, as it was before hip replacement.

    Buttock pain, leg pain, down to my knee, could not lift my leg into the car, got used to wearing trousers as I could grab the material and lift my leg that way.

    Some days no pain, they were a real bonus as you well understand, and even specialist said it does happen.

    I learn't that here in australia it all comes down to not how much pain you are in, I was in agony bone on bone, but how much function you have, What a crock, function, what function the the end I was in a wheelchair.

    When I finally got to the specailist in the public hospital he said the GP did not give him enough information about my condition, to give me any priority, and I should have seen you five years previous, and by the way fire your GP, he is not doing his job correctly, I did.

    First appt with specialist 28th August, surgery booked for 17 September, devveloped a clot in my leg, finally surgery 30 Oct.

    Day after surgery, I woke up to have the nurse saying I had not used my pain relief button during the night, I told her I was in less pain after surgery than yesterday morning when I walked through the front door of the hospital prior to surgery.  Not for long she said the physios are going to be here soon, suggested I top up the pain relief in prep for my first walk, I needed it, but really not as bad as I expected, walked corridor to nurses station the first morning post THR. 2nd hip gave it away a year later, and had it replaced as well. 

    Family history of lots of hip replacements, so came as no surprise to me I was going to need one, just the wait nearly drove me nuts.

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      That was an interesting read Lyn, did you have any diagnostic injections into your hip? (cortisone).
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      No Sarah, my Dr suggested it, and i asked how it worked, detail please, I was very polite, but insistant, she explained how they injected into the cartledge in the hip joint, as I understand it.

      WHAT CARTLEDGE I asked pointing at my x-ray's and MRI scans showing no joint space left, bone on bone, and what good was the injection going to do when I had no cartledge left.

      The check of it, she shrugged her shoulders and dropped the subject like a hot potatoe, it still annoys me that she was just going through the check sheet point by point, no care at all for my situation.

      All I can suggest is make sure you understand why the injection, and also get an explanation you understand about how it will help you, nothing to do with how it will help others or not, its YOU.

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      Good for you speaking your mind. I am shocked your doctor just shrugged her shoulders!! I hope I never get that reaction from mine, so far she's been great.....

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      Yes Lyn im agree with you , waiting driving me nuts now im

      waiting for next hip to be done. Left had been done 8 months

      ago and now right need to be done . Waiting for a day . I live in Australia too.

      Hug Madla💗

      I hope you fine

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    Hi Sarah

    I know it's 3 months since your postings about the pain in your hip and spine but I hope you have got some relief.

    i had a hip replacement on January 20th 2016.  I had been suffering with hip pain for years but it gradually got worse and I made the decision to have it done.

    After the op I complained about my foot hurting but they were only interested in my hip.  I expect you have read my story before but the point is I have been to see private Physiotherapists and they have said it comes from mt spine which is curved.  I went to see an orthopaedic surgeon who said it was from an old injury I had 55 years ago of a broken tibia and fibia.  He sent me for a nerve conduction test which showed damaged nerves in my foot.  They now tell me there is nothing they can do.

    I am 70 years old and I can understand your frustration, is it spine or hip.  At least I haven't got any pain in my hip now but last may I dislocated it doing a bit of gardening.  I am at the stage now where I am a bit cautious about doing anything. When I go walking I still use one crutch and have to keep sitting and my dancing is put on hold.

    I can't really give you any advice but I think you will know yourself what the best thing is for you.  I hope you have got something sorted for your pain.

    All the best and hugs Brenda 

     

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