Ive had severe bloating for a year, Told i have ibs but whatever i eat bloats me. what to do?

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A year ago i suddenly had a bad stomach attack. It was around the time of something stressful happening that has carried on over the next year, and a two week virus I had also. so I assume one of these triggered it? 

I have constant bloating, sometimes it goes down overnight but the feelings always there of my belly feeling full, bloated, and a twisty feeling. wheat really effects me so I try to eat less, but still i feel all foods i eat bloat me, and thats everything i eat. also i get serve pain after eating some days. 

Ive been tested for celiac, food allergies my ovaries have been checked and all my organs and all clear, so they said IBS but i cant help think its more serious due to the constant bloating. 

Im trying to loose weight at the moment but feel so stressed because its not working and i just look like im pregnant. 

Any tips or advice on how to manage and help this? 

thanks!

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    Hi,

    I know how you feel, What I have done is stopped bread it has not cured it but helped.

    Some say eat plenty of fruit but the acid and sugar makes me worse also a lot of water bloats me I am ok with veg,not all cannot take peppers, like you have been tested for celiac.It is so frustrating but what suits one does not suit all.

    Good Luck

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    Try a very low fat diet, eat plenty of roughage and exercise as much as possible, but it is extremely hard to lose weight around your midrift and, like you, I am always bloated and look pregnant...not nice at 71..!!  Keep a food diary and try to pinpoint the worse foods and steer clear of them.  Hope you get some success..!!
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    Hi Igw20! 

    Maybe this 'bloating' is just accumulation of fat around the middle. As Joan said, bread can cause added fat on the belly. All carby foods (fizzy drinks, potatoes, crisps, biscuits/pastries, sweets, cereals, beer etc..) all fall into the category of belly fat producing foods. 

    But if you have a bloated and uncomfortable feeling, you may be eating too much at one meal.  Drink water to fill yourself up. 

    If you have gas, you need to work harder at becoming regular. And the best way is to increase your fluid intake; water being the best and most natural source. And of course, increasing vegetables. If you eat plenty, you will have no room and no desire to fill yourself up even more with 'bad foods'. 

    Here is a British article about a study that states that 10 vegetables and fruits per day are the new 'norm'. This is not some extreme or far out diet. It is what every human being should eat in a day. (Consider that a banana for example is 2 servings, an apple is 1.) For optimal digestive and overall health, this is the recommended.

    hat means one has to fill thatbreakfast  smoothie blender with let's say: half an apple, some berries, celery and a handful of fresh, green spinach whichmakes for a good and delicious choice. That and some walnuts and almond milk for protein thrown in, and maybe a bit of vanilla make an excellent start to the day. 

    A little bottle of vegetable juice packed in with your lunch is also an easy serving. My daughter took a big salad to work every day for years because she wanted to be slim...and healthy. And she succeeded. She wanted me to make her lunches so I put about 8 (small amounts) of veggies into a portable bowl; carrot shavings, cut up celery bits, green lettuce (never iceberg), cherry tomatoes, cucumber, chopped red pepper bits, a beet and sprinkled dry parsley. I put the dressing in a tiny one ounce sealable cup which I put inside the salad bowl. For protein, you can put chicken pieces leftover from dinner, hard boiled eggs, even cheese if you can tolerate it. That's the way not only to lose weight but to be healthy..and look attractive with a healthy complexion, bright eyes, shiny hair. Of course you can add more to it if you find this is not enough food. Mayb eyou are very active in which case you need more caloreis in a day. You just don't want to be eating lots of bread and other carbs if you are losing weight. They only make you crave.

    As far as bloating goes, keep regular by taking Fybogel or some other source of natural psyllium. It is not a drug. Personally I keep regular by taking magnesium glycinate or magnesium citrate (2 -3 tabs) at bedtime and I empty my large colon completely. If you do this, you won't have trapped gas. You should 'go' every morning, a full, 1 foot long, easy to pass stool. If you have to strain or the stool is small and/or sinks to the bottom of the bowl, you are constipated and that means you are keeping a lot of undigested (rotting) food inside you. And this can give you problems. 

    Good luck with your diet and your digestion.

    Robin

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      Hi,

      actually to be saying that a stool should be a foot long is for some normal but not if it suddenly is this is a sign of IBS.Repeating again you do not have to have that amount of fruit it is acid and sugar,coming from a mother of Bowel Cancer specialist .And not passing that amount in one stool does not mean you are constipated and what one eats does not suit everybodŷ.

       

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      Fybogel can cause extended stomache and flatulance for some yes it us natural but some natural can cause side effects.
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    I just read up on Fybogel or psyllium (a natural food type product) and it said that when people are very constipated such as with impacted feces, Fybogel ...like any food, will not pass. You have to treat the blockage first and then maintain regularity with Fybogel. But you do have to drink it with 1 - 2 glasses of water. Then, like any food, it will pass nicely. It's not like cabbage or some gas producing foods. Of course, at the risk of sounding repetitive, with a diet of plenty of veggies...there is no need for Fybogel. You are getting the roughage in your food.  So, ti's good for people, maybe like elderly people who refuse water and refuse to eat enough fruits and vegetables. I can see why doctors recommend it in such cases. Not everyone is compliant.

    Dairy products have got to be the worst culprits in terms of gas and bloating. I give in and have some on occasion and I pay the price every time. Almond milk is a delicious replacement and there is life after quitting eating cheese.  

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      So you recommend Eating pleanty of fruit and vedge, because my diet consist of porrdige, fruit, vedge, humus and meat. But occasionally i have wheat. but even when eating the above like alot of vedge i can get just as bad bloating as i do with wheat? 
    • Posted

      Sounds like a good diet. Good that you aren't including dairy because it can be very hard to digest. Are you getting the recommended daily amount of veggies and fruit? 2 1/2 + cups? Maybe you ARE drinking too much liquid. And how about fizzy drinks? They will cause bloating. You have to be a detective and listen to your body. You will find the solution. You want to be good and regular.

       

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      I have almond milk and water with my porridge, and occasionally cheese. but I think its just alot of foods irritate it and i will have to give it time to work out i guess. I just hope to loose weight whilst eating healthier! thats my second goal. the first would be to stop the uncomfortable bloating but i really want to loose weight but I have started eating the heathly foods as said above recently and exercising more!
    • Posted

      Don't forget portion control. That can cause bloating and sabotage your dieting efforts. THrow out all cookies, ice cream, junk; anything and everything that can tempt you. Once temptation is removed, dieting is a breeze. Keep up the good work. 
  • Posted

    Hi,

    you do need some dairy for calcium unless you are allergic to it,and no you don't need fybrogel if you have veg and fruit it will only purge you so if you eat veg you should not need it.

     

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      I agree wholeheartedly with statement two but I have to disagree with our requirement for milk in our diet. Cow's milk is for calves...just like zebra milk is for baby zebras, mouse milk is for baby mice and whale milk is for baby whales. And these young mammals only nurse during infancy. We, as humans, are the only mammals who rob milk from the breast of another mammal. That is totally unnatural. Each species has specially designed milk for its young. Cow's milk is highly indigestible to humans because we dont' have 4 stomachs like calves. Baby cows drink the milk from their mothers and then once weanedvery young, they eat grass. And yet, they grow to be big boned animals.

      For us humans there are other sources of calcium such as sardines, salmon, legumes, nuts, seeds, oats, green veggies such as spinach, almonds and almond milk, my favourite that actually has as much calcium as milk,

      If we were vegetarians and did not eat meat, our calcium requirements would be fewer. And if we exercised as children and played sports, our bones beneath those built up muscles would be stronger.

      Milk and other dairy products understandably cause so many health problems among humans for whom cow's milk was NOT designed. For myself, I cough...and cough and cough and my nose runs after ingesting dairy. If i were to drink a glass of milk, I would have major indigestion and diarrhea like many people. I think that we would be far better off not drinking or eating any dairy products.

      People have been conned by the dairy lobby into thinking yoghurt is THE most nutritious breakfast and snack food. It is basically as full of sugar as cookies and there is very little if any acidophilus in most yoghurts. Now dietitians (those who aren't being paid by the dairy board) are coming out and saying that yoghurt is not all that it's cracked up to be. If people want to eat yoghurt, it shouldn't be for health reasons but as a sugary treat. Down with dairy, up with good health!

    • Posted

      Hi Robin, I have never in my life enjoyed drinking a glass of milk but always loved my ice cream! I gave that up quite awhile ago. I have found that coconut milk is a great alternative to milk and love the flavor! Two of my three grown children are lactose intolerant and my daughter was diagnosed with celiac disease (silent) and had quite a bit of damage. I have been intolerant of gluten, all kinds, oats, and other grains, and many others. So, as you say, some foods are just not good/right for some people. We each have to find out. And I also agree that dairy is not necessary in our diet. My grand kids happen to get plenty of dairy and I have never seen so many broken bones! I had a bone density test and have the bones of a 21 year old and will by 60 tomorrow. And did not drink milk but always took calcium supplements since early 20s since my body (joints) screamed for it. Just MHO.
    • Posted

      Hi Barb,

      There's always soy ice cream... 

      Maybe as a child you were also very physicall active which makes hte bones under the 'exercised muscles' stronger. Today kids are not as active as we were. As a kid I spent my winter weekends skiing and my summer days swimming and bicycling all over. Kids played football in the streets and where I live, street hockey. I hope your grandkids are active. With their family history, too bad, they can't drink coconut milk or almond milk instead of cow's milk. 

      Look at cows themselves. They live on 'greens'...as in grass (or hay which is not really their diet and can cause bloat...but that's another story...) and they have big strong bones.

      The protein in the milk makes the calcium not well absorbed. In France people do not drink milk but they do eat a lot of cheese. Some researchers believe that this 'French Paradox' of high fat intake but low incidence of heart attacks and strokes is due to avoiding milk...AND drinking red wine. 

      Too bad you are gluten intolerant. I have read recently that gluten intolerance is really intolerance of wheat itself which is genetically modified. I have no idea. It's just what I have read. I did read Wheat Belly which is a best seller and very enlightening in reference to gluten and grain intolerances. I recommend it . I'm sure the lirary has it.

      Ciao!

      All in all, dairy

       

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      Hi Robin,

      I just had a chance to read your post. I was surprised to read what you wrote about wheat being genetically modified.  Last I heard is that it is not genetically modified at all.  I had been to a gluten free show where they had a lot of vendors and some speakers with classes.  There was a registered nurse who travels to Ireland because there seems to be more research done there, and I believe it was her who mentioned many of the other grains that are genetically modified, but that gluten is not.  What I read is that gluten is added to many foods that normally would not contain gluten.  And gluten is also added (can't understand why!) to foods that already contain gluten!  Apparently that seems to be causing the issue with so many more people being intolerant of this particular protein.

      I prefer to stay away from soy because it's difficult to find any that is not genetically modified, so I generally use coconut products.  It tastes much better too :-)

      I don't know why the grandkids are having issues.  They are very active actually.  My 12-year old granddaughter had to have surgery on her foot today because she sprained her ankle last August then broke her foot on the other side of where the sprain was last October.  When he opened her up, he saw that the part he thought he needed to repair was heeled (though needed to be shaved) yet the other side where the MRI showed no damage was in worse shape as if the break in the bone managed to cause damage to where the sprain was and weakened it.  Poor girl, she's in some pain now!

      Hey I watched a youtube tonight that was quite good (talking about the younger generation).  Have you seen it?  It's called "Look up from your phone." 

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      LOL on my last post just now, I meant WHEAT is not genetically modified, not gluten! haha!
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      Thanks for bringing this to my attention. That's right...wheat is not genetically modified...but 'hybridized'. The author of the best seller, William Davis writes that modern wheat is 'hybridized with non-wheat plants (to introduce entirely unique genes). There are also chemical-, gamma-, and x-ray mutagenesis, i.e., the use of obnoxious stimuli to induce mutations that can then be propagated in offpspring. This is how BASF’s Clearfield wheat was created, for example, by exposing the seeds and embryos to the industrial chemical, sodium azide, that is highly toxic to humans.'

      It goes on more from paragraph 4...and it paints a horrific picture of what can be done to our biggest grain source...and how it has a chemical in it that affects the brain; for example causing ADHD. Davis states that this hybridization is worse than genetic modification; it's a step up. This modern Clearfield wheat is short...to get to market sooner. There is no tall wheat anymore.  Get 'Wheat Belly' out of the library if you are interested. 

      I still eat wheat...because I have no choice unless I stop eating all breads. Eating gluten free doesn't cancel out the hybridization effects. I've been reading that this whole gluten thing is really a reaction to the hybridization...not gluten. My grandson who has ADHD went on a gluten free diet and they 'thought' it was making a difference but after a month realized that it really made no difference at all. And he is on Ritalin now and so much better. I cannot convince them to try no wheat and no corn and no soy all at once. He eats colourings, flavourings, BHA, BHT etc...which his father, my hyperactive son did not have in his Salicylate Free diet. Didn't know about hybridised wheat back then...

      'Dying for a Hamburger' is another great book; somewhat scientific but a must-read especially for Brits who lived through the Mad Cow epidemic. The book claims that the prions in beef cannot be killed like bacteria can for example with cooking. It is in the nervous systems (spinal cord etc) of beef cattle. And it states that prions which we have all ingested if we are beef eaters are behind the current 'dementia epidemic' that has evolved since 1900. Fascinating read!

      Your poor granddaughter! I think once you have an injury to a foot, it is permanently weakened and is more inclined to further twists and sprains etc.. It could always be worse... Hopefully, otherwise she is in good health...or did you say your grandchildren have digestive issues like your children...?

      Will check the video you recommended. Love documentaries!

       

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      Boy Robin, you read a lot and are a wealth of information. Have you checked out the Paleo diet yet? It's a transition, but once you get used to it, you might feel really great. I am on a special program right now to lose a few pounds but will be back on Paleo real soon. My insides feel SO good when eating that way - no grain, sugar, dairy, or of course gluten. I just find I have to cook and prepare more. But that's okay, I cook extra and prepare ahead. I make these wonderful sweet potato cinnamon chocolate waffles for breakfast. Yum! 

      As for my granddaughter, since she is so young and they had to cut the band that holds all the tendons, I am extremely concerned about injuries and how it has compromised her foot for life. But she has been suffering with pain and in and out of casts and boots for 10 months now. Hope this has helped for now.

      Barb

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      Your poor granddaughter! This may sound strange...but my cat has just recovered from 'ruptured tendons'. She was in a cast for 5 weeks and it seems to have worked..for now. (the cost: 1400 pounds!) Her paw is in the correct position now since the cast came off last week. The other alternative at twice the price is for plates and screws. Is that something they are considering for your granddaughter? Poor thing...she must be so discouraged to not be able to run out and play with her friends this summer. 

      Well, I am very interested in health issues. Raising children makes you aware of these things; my son having suffered from IBS. But I am no expert on many things. I don't really know anything about the Paleo diet although I have heard about it for quite some time now. It sounds like the Atkins diet which I recently read the American Heart Association admits, results in lower heart related disease. It seems that everyone is coming down hard on sugar as the cause of so many health problems. So it sounds like the Paleo diet fits right in there. No grain, sugar , dairy.; probably no pasta, potatoes either...it does sound like Atkins. I guess you go easy on fruit as well. My understanding is that melon and berries are lower on the glycemic index so acceptable...unless the diet is very strict. I do enjoy by berry smoothie but I could change it to a green smoothie with spinach, carrot, greens, protein powder and almond milk...ugh! So the diet must be meat, eggs, vegetables, nuts and seeds? I should look into that because I am due for a diet and it could be an interesting experience. Cravings do a nose dive when you stop the carbs.

      I like preparing foods (cole slaw, my own salad dressings, lentils in vinaigrette, cooked asparagus, hard boiled eggs, cold chicken etc..) If I have lots of prepared (by me) foods on hand, I know I have to serve them and I am not tempted to eat 'naughty foods'.

      THanks for the Paleo diet reminder. I am going to look into it. Maybe I could start on Monday.

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