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Hi there,

My name is Chonny, I'm 25 and live in New Zealand. Last year I was a fulltime single mother of a two year old (still am, just now she's three), studied fulltime, got a Diploma in Film and TV Production majoring in Documentary Directing and a Cert in Maori Performing Arts, outside of study I was heavily involved in a performing arts company and was working out regularly. I was barely still. Sometime in the second half of the year was when I started to get ill. My immune system has never been great so I've always had the mentality of just pushing through, However the fatigue didn't go away, accompanied by daily headaches. I'd just landed myself a part time job in the industry I'd trained for, it was an entry level job and prettyyyy simple. I only had to work a few hours a day but I was really battling with it. The drive home felt like I was leaving a 12 hour shift with a severe hangover. 

I'd been to the doctor twice last year...she told me I had tension headaches and eye strain and prescribed me a whole bunch of drugs that make you drowsy (good one), anti-depressants and told me to go to the optometrists. 

I ditched the anti-depressants, I wasn't depressed. I took the drugs. I didn't see the optom at the time because of costs. So I went back to the doc this year but this time I decided to try a different one as this one just wanted me out the door as soon as i stepped through it. My next doc asked me if I'd ever suffered from anxiety...yes I have. And that's all it took for her to become tunnel-visioned. More anti-depressants and a clinical psychologist "on a history of anxiety and clinical depression". I felt destroyed. Here I was, so hopeful I'd get an answer and I end up with that answer. Not at all saying that anxiety and depression are not something to take seriously because they totally are. But I KNEW that this was not the cause of my symptoms. I know the symptoms of anxiety, I've lived them. She'd got it the wrong way around, my "mood" was not causing my symptoms, my symptoms were causing my mood. Simple, yet I felt I couldn't tell her this for the thought of being ridiculed.

Annnyyywaay, I eventually ended up with the specialist I'm with now who understands!! And not only that, he started asking me if I had certain things going on, which I did. He got more bloods done that the other doctors hadn't and found that I was low in several things so is treating me for those. So I'm hoping that'll help. I'm only working one day a week at the moment but I'm struggling even with that. I don't have the mental focus to be able to deliver/drive. I'm thinking of leaving so that I can make this a time of healing. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I'm still a bit up in the air.

My daughter is at daycare fulltime from 8:30am-6pm. During that time I'm mostly in bed, I worked out that I spend on average, 20 hours a day in bed. When I realised that, I thought to myself, ok that's a bit extreme and a bit lazy, I'm sure I can do a bit better than that... That day I tried to do a few hours of work and went to a graduation ceremony for a couple of hours that evening. I struggled the whole day and was destroyed by the time I finally got into bed at 9pm. lol. The next day I woke up feeling I'd been hit by a bus and also felt a cold coming on. Ohhh nope maybe it isn't laziness after all. 

The weekend just past I tried to do a few things with my daughter as well. Low energy outings. It's Sunday night and I feel pretty bad, muscles are aching and the rest of it! 

Guess I need to learn to accept that this is real and this time I can't push through in the way that I used to or it'll make me worse...that's probably the hardest part for me.

This post has been such a long vent! It was not my intention for it to turn into a big moaning rant! My apologies. If you made it to the end of this i have to say that I am surprised!! And very grateful that you took the time. But anyway, I look forward to meeting some of you and being part of a place where people understand!

Chonny smile

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    Hi chonny , we completely understand how you feel so please don't think your moaning ! I to feel as if your bus comes to WALES & runs over me most days !( haha amazing how far that bus travels haha !!!). Keep trying to get some answeres from your drs but don't be to hard on your self. It's no way your fault  ! The guilt of not being able to work, look after children , clean house , cook meals & be a good wife ( all the things we've managed without problem before illness !)  is all too much !!!we have to learn how to accept the new you ! & not spend the little energy we do have blaming ourselves ! Pacing your day is a must ( read up on this it works !!)  make time for yourself ( get a manicure , haircut ,new outfit !) you need to feel your not letting yourself go ! I think that's important , you have control over how you look & that proves your still you !!! Try not to worry , its a challenge but please know there is life with m.e./ c.f.s / fibromyalgia ( they are my views hope they help !?!?) 

    take care dawn x

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      Hi Dawn!

      Oh it has been quite overwhelming reading these responses from such understanding people. Your one almost made me cry! you've hit the nail on the head. Guilt. A lot of guilt. And I find I'm constantly analysing myself. If I don't do this because I'm too tired but then I try and do that, will people think I'm a hypocrite? Will they think I'm full of it? Blah blah blah. I think one of my biggest wishes is that people around me could fully understand exactly what it is that I'm going through so I didn't have to feel as guilty. 

      And what you said about letting yourself go! Also so true! I'm quite down about my weight. This time last year I was fit and in shape. Now I am overweight and in turn have lost a lot of confidence. Exercise has been something that I've really enjoyed in the past and training/playing sports with other people. It's hard for me to believe that I just can't do that anymore. Well not yet anyway.

      And I was actually thinking about how I needed a haircut but my second thought was "oh who cares, it's not like anyone sees you when you're in bed al the time anyway". But you're absolutely right! There are some things that we can control and make us feel better (if only a little).

      Thank you so much.

      Just out of curiousity, how long have u had m.e for? 

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    Hey, Chonny--Anyone with your symptoms (possibly from CFS/ME) could be depressed and anxious. I'd never had a problem with either until I'd had CFS/ME. I refused to see docs who made my illness about the anxiety and depression. It was not! Also, I think it's a very good idea to leave your job for a while and get the rest you need. 
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      Hi Jackie,

      Yes I found it became quite confusing. 

      And I think you are right about the job thing. I'm sad to leave as it is a new job and pretty much a dream job for me but I know the time is not right and there will be more opportunites. smile

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    Hi chonny . I've had fibromyalgia 14 yrs ( ill for ages before giving up work )  I've been  different ill this last few yrs & now I'm told its m.e. Also !! The difference is even more exausted than the last 14 yrs !!!  I've missed work so much ( I'm a hairdresser !!!!) I've still got my salon a manager runs it & my husband. Does all the money & running around !!! It's taken so long forme to except the way I am & really hope you won't take as long because punishing yourself won't help you any !!!!  I've found it hard to keep my wieght down I'm 24 lbs heavier now than 2 yrs ago & at the moment attempting another diet this time low carb ( it has made me feel a lot less bloated !)  it's only been a week so no idea if I'm loosing but I live in hope !!!! It's so easy to say why bother ! Last week I couldn't make my appointment to my own salon & I'm desperate for a colour !!!! But I will go this week I'm not giving up. !!! So don't worry if it takes a few attempts to do things it's important you feel that you are important !!!Please know that we understand how you feel but others won't  !! Most of my family still think I'm faking it !!! My friends have stopped calling & I'm not supprised ! I can't tell you how many times I've said I'm going out with them only to get my husband to ring last minute & cancell !!!!!  I say to people if my pain & exhaustion were blue you'd be looking at a bloody great  smurf  !!!! Haha !  The best thing that helped me come to terms was a 12wk 1afternoon a week chronic management course  ,  I went on this 8 yrs ago & still meet up with 2peolpe & THIER partners for lunch every few weeks & even had a weekend away with my pain gang !!!!  That's what I've named us ! It's good for our other half to talk to spouces  that understand because they live with these illnesses also! I hope you can get some help in that way they help you come to terms with & make the most of your life !!!!  Take this one step at a time don't try to do too much ! & make yourself herd at the drs !write things down not to forget ( brain fog!) & take someone with you to remember everything that's said ! Don't worry ! & don't feel guilty ! & good luck ! I wish I had known about these things yrs ago I had no idea & nobody to help so please know there's help out there !! Luv dawn x
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      Wow, that's a long time. Sounds like you have a supportive hubby smile 

      Well I did it! I woke up this morning and decided I would go and get a haircut and a treatment! Aside from having to sit in front of the mirror and stare at how big my gut has become, it was really good! It took quite a while so by the time I was done I couldn't get to my bed faster but it really does make a difference to how I feel. smile

      And yes I was cancelling on my friends so often because I felt so ill. I think they thought I was depressed or something. 

      The chronic management course sounds great. I wonder if they have anything similar to that over here in NZ. I'll have to check it out.

      And yes! I write things down when I go to the doctors because otherwise I forget everything. And I was consdering asking my specialist if he'd mind me recording our consultations on my phone because of the same problem. 

      I'm moving to a place by the ocean in a few weeks. And I think it'll be really good. It's a big building split into three seperate units and they treat it like a little community. Anyway the owner there is aware of my condition and is very supportive and says she knows someone who's been through this and blah blah, anyway she's been very caring about it and asks me if I'm ok and how I manage this and that etc which I think is really nice compared to most people's reactions. And we've only met twice! So it'll be good to be around someone who understands/ is supportive smile

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    Hi chonny , I'm so pleased you felt better about yourself after a haircut !  Try to remember  your a  person that's ill  &  it's not your fault !!!  So you deserve a treat. Every now & then  !  Remember  that  ! 

    Living by the ocean sounds beautifull  that will help you I've no doubt !  Unfortunately I live in a built up area & won't be able to move for a very long time !!( we still employ 8 people & THIER lives depend on us keeping the business open the economy still stinks & this year has ment that we take a loss so the staff get paid ! ) I'm not even having a holiday this year !!!!  Stress is the worst thing when you are ill & life is full of stress so we have to find a way to cope  ,check out about chronic pain management because it does help you cope !  I wish you luck with your move just keep reminding yourself when the thought of moving scares the hell out of you it's going to be so much better for you in the long term ! All the best luv dawn x

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    Hi Chonny,

    Can you recommend a specialist in Auckland?  I've just had a terrible experience with a medical professional which is so much like yours it's not funny - I am young, fit and look fairly healthy, but have experienced a worsening and puzzling set of symptoms which started to scare me in the end.  I decided to take some action and ended up seeing a specialist.  I was dismissed with a recommendation to take medication and see a psychiatrist, with no attempt to do blood, adrenal or hormone tests for any physical underlying causes of my symptoms which were chronic debilitating fatigue, chronic insomnia, joint pains, feeling cold all the time, low body temperature, hair falling out, chest pains and numb hands and feet.  I was made to feel bad for suggesting the professional look into what might be causing me to feel ill rather than just agree to see a psychiatrist after speaking with him.  He was offended and angry and defensive that I had looked on the internet for some answers, and based his opinion largely on me breaking down and crying in front of him because I am so tired and run down and was hoping for some help.  For someone to meet me for one hour and make this diagnosis based on me being distressed and crying, and looking at a copy of one general blood test which I took in with me, I thought was not kind or fair to me as a patient.  The worst thing is that it puts me off seeking a second opinion even though I have read about this same thing happening to so many people who seek help.

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      Hi, Stolz! I just wanted to confirm what you already know: your experience is very typical. Really, I think it is the rule rather than the exception (did I say that right?). When I saw my first doctor, he said it was all in my head. When I saw a second doctor, she said "You know, a lot of doctors don't think CFS is a real illness" (read: "I (the doctor) don't think it's a real illness"). So then I broke down and cried. And then she said I needed to see a psychiatrist. Well I think she needed to see a psychiatrist for some sensitivy training. But here's the important part. i then saw a specialist familiar with CFS/ME. He diagnosed me immediately and helped me. So don't give up!
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      Hi Stolz!

      Wow, that sounds crazily close to home! I'm so sorry that you had to go through that, I know exactly how you feel and it's horrible!

      But yes, where abouts in Auckland are you? The specialist I'm seeing is based in Epsom and it's been such a relief to have him! A good friend of mine suggested I go to see him as he suffers from Adrenal Fatigue and so I was talking to him a lot about what I was going through. The docs name is Dr Bernard Willis. He's quite pricy but at the end of the day it beats going round in circles with GP's any day. I think the initial consultation is around $240 and after that it's about $125 or something. When I told him what my doctor had said to me he pretty much laughed which made me feel like I was in the right place. He got me to do a whole series of blood tests (including some extra ones that needed to be paid for) and from those he saw that I was lacking in a bunch of things which my doctor did not pick up, he also told me I'd had glandular fever which is the trigger for CFS a lot of the time. He's given me a range of supplements to take, I do bi-weekly Vit D injections and will be getting iron infusions. He's also suggested the Paleo diet...which I have been struggling a bit with to be honest, love my food lol.

      Let me know how you get on! 

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      Oops I mean Vit B12 injections not Vit D lol
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      Thanks Jackie, I have a lovely partner who also thought I should see someone else, and a very supportive best friend who believes we should trust our bodies when they tell us something is out of whack  Her words stayed with me.  I am no doctor but I know it's not good to have floaters constantly in your eyes, have an unusual onset of brain fog and memory problems, have strange changes to light/sound sensitivity and taste, constantly be cold, or have joint pains when you SEEM to be outwardly fit and healthy.  I guess we all just want someone to be interested in finding out what the cause is, not write us off.  Anyone can study hard and get a medical degree but that doesn't automatically make you a good "people person"!
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      Hi Chonny,

      I was diagnosed with CFS a while ago now, but have been without a good GP (unfortunately so many do not still understand the existence of the condition) since my last one left the practice.... just wondering reading you above comment; does Dr. Bernard Willis function as your general practitioner; or is he just a specialist?

      Cheers smile

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      Heya, he's just my specialist. My GP is the same and shrugged off the possibility of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome unfortunately. Pretty frustrating as specialist prices are through the roof. Are you receiving any treatment at the moment? There's also Dr. Rosamund Vallings who's based at Howick Health and Medical Centre. I've had three people reccommend her to me and she's apparently the leading CFS specialist in NZ. You need to be referred by your GP. I've also had people suggest Colour Therapy. There's a place in Alfriston so I'm going to book myself an appointment there asap. smile
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    Hi just read Jackie s comment totally agree.

    my hubby went to see van de fries a renowned naturopath etc in London . He diagnosed him with CFS. Back in 2012. 

    But it was early this year he asked his gp to refer him to a CFS/M.E specialist in our local hospital . The gp felt there was no point , they can't do anything!!!!! Had to keep saying I would like to be refered anyway... So she referred him. 

    And on her first appointment being told he filled the criteria set out by  

    he said he just felt such a relief . He was officially diagnosed.

    she has arranged for occupational therapists working with the m.e. Clinic to call and we had our first visit. Fantastic. They explained that there endeavour was to get him back to having 70 percent energy of what he used to have. And she explained as most people who get CFS have tended to be high achievers go getters in life your 70 percent will be a normal persons 100 percent. She talked a lot and listened a lot. And really ave some practical advice and medical. She said rule of thumb only increase activity by 2 percent each time. So if you walk to the corner of the road one day only walk an extra few steps the next time ... Not oh I will walk to the corner of the next street and then the next which is 50 percent ... 2percent and your body can sustain it.. So much info ... Lots about sleep and getting you to eventually having good sleep being key. 

    And my big eye opener . Was how do you relax. 

    As in switch off unwind. My hubby watches TV when that's turned off he puts his I.pad on then the computer, then the game console etc .. He doesn't just chill he has to be occupying his brain. She said you have to find a way of relaxing your brain as you are suing energy.she's given him relaxation tapes... But he does find sitting by the sea watchig the waves does switch his mind off. So wave tapes.. And we live by the sea ...so badger your gp and get referred .. Even if in NZ you have to travel to another hospital further a field .. It's worth it .... 

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      I would think sitting by the sea watching the waves is tremendously relaxing and therapeutic.
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      It is .. Last Summer he started to recover get energy back in patches each day .. We were visiting the beach a lot. Then he relapsed but we have just found out it wasn't CFS he got diabeties . And it got undiagnosed from September 2013 until 7 weeks ago... Dangers of having CFS you think everything is it. But he is now feeling so much better on diet tablets etc...but it's interesting being able to switch the old brain off is key to recovery .. We don't really understand the brain.. And interesting a lot of people with CFS get diabeties there is a link... The OT said for CFS blood sugar has a big effect and if you have CFS you are unable to exercise easily sedate and you can easily gain weight which then if you are predisposed to diabeties brings it on early ... I do hope you get the help you need ..

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