Knee replacement and depression
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I've had both knees done 4 weeks ago and was not prepared for the pain and hopelessness but worst of all is the depression is this normal
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Posted , 18 users are following.
I've had both knees done 4 weeks ago and was not prepared for the pain and hopelessness but worst of all is the depression is this normal
1 like, 238 replies
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Irish_Al ann1904
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I'm 4 weeks post op too. But only on one knee. I find I feel down some mornings, but in particular the morning after a really bad sleep. This morning is one of those mornings. But trying hard to remind myself of friends a lot worse off health wise.
I am not a 'Holy Joe' but do pray to says Thanks for a successful op and for patience going forward.
You are extremely brave to have both knees done at the same time. Cheer up in the knowledge that we 'Single knee'ers' will probably have to go again, when you are walking or running through beautiful countryside wherever you are, or out dancing to some nice music. On music that old JR Ewing song comes to mind.....One Day at a time.......
Keep the head up and rememb err we admire your bravery.
Take care,
Alan
ann1904 Irish_Al
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tom67073 ann1904
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I had TKA on right knee done on May 11, 2016 so I am a very newbie. I am also very depressed with the pain as well as the hopelessness. I found this forum and decided to join. I have found over the past 16 hours there are so many people on here that are going through the same problems I am. My knee is always very stiff and swollen. Pain at times can make me cry and it has several times. I blame myself for all the pain I am having as I don't like taking pain medication for the fear of becoming addicted to them. During the night I made the decision to stick to the pain medication schedule. I hope this will help with the pain. I really hope to hear from you.
Thanks Tom
Irish_Al tom67073
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Any luck sleeping last night?
Alan
tom67073 Irish_Al
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I was able to get a few hours on and off. Was very stiff getting up. Just did my exercises the best I could. Still no leg raises. Have ice on now.
Irish_Al tom67073
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One tip I was given was to lift my good leg a few times and then try the operated leg. It worked for me. It did take a good few attempts and serious effort, but now it's one of the easiest exercises.
Hope this helps,
Alan
tom67073 Irish_Al
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tom67073 ann1904
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I am taking 5mg of oxy every four hours I can bump it up to 10mg if pain is high if I do that then I run out then totally screwed. Also on anti depressants. Today been taking meds every 4 hours along with Tylenol so not as bad but makes me want to sleep. Also been falling a sleep with ice on knee today not good
Oldfatguy1 tom67073
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tom67073 Oldfatguy1
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ann1904 tom67073
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tom67073 ann1904
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Thanks for checking in. It was a very long night. For some reason pain was very intense during the night. It was not pain in the knee but in my upper thigh it was like someone was just putting a lot of pressure in one spot. My knee is sore but also very stiff and tight. My body is telling me something is not right. Doctors say that is normal it will get better. My question when will it feel normal. Loosing hope
Oldfatguy1 tom67073
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sandra07433 tom67073
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tom67073 sandra07433
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Irish_Al tom67073
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You'll get there.
I know you will, we are all listening to and supporting each other.
Please remember this is a 24 hour forum due to time differences, so please message at any time. It's 5.50pm here now.
Take care,
Alan
sandra07433 tom67073
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Oldfatguy1 tom67073
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Hang in the ......don't try to do too much today......it's Sunday and you are entiltled to a day off.
tom67073 Oldfatguy1
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sandra07433 tom67073
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ann1904 tom67073
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tom67073 ann1904
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Thank you again to everyone
tom67073 sandra07433
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cheryl90571 ann1904
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They put a tourniquet on the thigh during surgery. This prevents blood loss.
For me, the tourniquet pain following surgery felt like a steak knife had been thrust into my thigh! Everyone wanted to know how my KNEE felt. All I could tell them was I didn't really KNOW because it felt like I had a STEAK KNIFE in my thigh!😲
This pain eventually became less and did go away but not for about two MONTHS! I fortunately didn't have this STEAK KNIFE pain with my second TKR four months later.
sandra07433 tom67073
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Irish_Al tom67073
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I had my best nights sleep last night.
Yesterday, I did my three sets of exercises, the third set I did at about 7.30 pm. Then I iced more than ever throughout the evening, and I iced twice between 10.30pm - 11.00pm. I went to bed at 11.00 pm, going to bed I took 2 Tylex (painkilers) and 1 anti-inflammatory, Keral.
I had two bathroom calls during the night, but overall I slept until 6.30 this morning.
Really happy with that.
Take care,
Alan
sandra07433 Irish_Al
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Alan, that's great, you function so much better when you've had a few hours sleep, hope you managed some sleep last night too Tom?
It is now exactly 2 weeks since my surgery and the dressing was removed this morning which has made me much more comfortable and I have just had my first outpatient physio appointment, she was absolutely brilliant and gave me some tips on how to sleep comfortably, either with a pillow under my leg long ways from foot up to support the whole leg as it's not completely straight yet or a pillow between the 2 legs to sleep on your side, which has been recommended by a lot of people on here, she reassured me that I am progressing as I should be and has given me some extra exercises to concentrate on straightening the leg and bending the knee, I currently have an 80 degree bend, she also said the only way I could damage it was in a serious accident as I had been worrying that I could mess it up if I twisted it funny or something, I was also moving my operated leg with my hip and she taught me to relax into the,walk and I was much better with 1 crutch than 2, couldn't get the hang of 2 crutches!! I am feeling much more positive, so Tom I am hoping you will feel better once you have seen your physio on Wednesday.
Thank you so much for the support and take care (sorry for the essay, I just feel so energised today now).
take care both of you.
Sandra x
tom67073 sandra07433
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That is great to hear. I am so happy things went well with you today. I was able to get some sleep. So that was good. I sleep with leg elavated then try a pillow between the legs, that can last maybe an hour or so. It was very stiff this morning still trying to get it moving. Getting ready to take pain pill and try to do some excerises.
tom67073 Irish_Al
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That is awesome!! I was telling sandra I was able to get some sleep last night with a few bathroom breaks which everyone seems to have around the four hour mark. I am getting ready to do my first set of exercises for the day, I did wake very stiff as usual. I am going to call my doctor to see if there is any anti inflammatory meds I could get. I was not prescribed any. Just pain meds, Tylenol, and for first seven day anti blood clotting meds, plus take one 81mg of baby aspirin daily. Great job to all. Thanks again
sandra07433 tom67073
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Irish_Al sandra07433
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Great positive update.
Delighted, keep it going.
Alan
Irish_Al tom67073
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I think we are all progressing nicely, just at different speeds.
In my opinion sleep is a key input, if sleep is good then head is better, more positive energy, which in turn encourages more positive and focused exercise the following day. Which in turn makes us more tired which helps get better sleep and so on.
It can be inconsistent as we all know, but I now can look forward to getting another 'good' nights sleep, even if it does not happen tonight I am confident that it will happen every second or third night.
Off for second set of exercises now.
Take care,
Alan
tom67073 Oldfatguy1
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I am just checking in today to see how you are doing? I hope all is weel? I am feeling a littler better today. I was able to sleep some last night so I take that as a good thing. Still have the stiffness and the tightness, take some time to some what get it going. Do you have any tips while sitting? I just can't get comfortable. I called the doctor today to see if I can change from Tylenol to ibuprofen, however they said it will interfere with the 81mg of aspirin. I am waiting to see if there is something they can give to help with the swelling. I see the doctor Thursday for staple removal. And this Wednesday will be my first physical therapy session. So looking forward to it. Yea. Again thanks for all the help
tom67073 Irish_Al
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I hope you had a great day. My day was ok did my exercises this morning then feel asleep for 90 mins lucky me. Then went for a nice walk to grocery store it was nice to be out, we have had rain past few days. Did speak to my doctor he does not like to use anti inflammatory meds he believes in ice and elevated the leg. If still swollen when I see him Thursday he will discuss other options. Maybe drain some fluid. Well take care doing another set of exercises
tom67073 sandra07433
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Irish_Al tom67073
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I had a pretty good day overall. Delighted to hear you were able to get out. I too went for a walk around the block, approximately 0.45 of a mile, so happy with that.
Doctors in Ireland seem to be a bit more lenient when it comes to issuing painkillers/anti-inflammatories (Thank God).
I woke this morning at 5.00am, got 1.5 hours sleep, then went from 1.00am to 5.00am straight through, so happy out.
I'm not sure how far I should be walking (with crutches), this is week 5, anybody any idea?
Thanks,
Alan
ann1904 Irish_Al
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Irish_Al ann1904
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A bath sounds wonderful, how long since your op? I was told no baths and no swimming until 12 weeks???
Did you find it difficult getting in and out?
Yes I think we are at a turning point. I am starting to see some improvement every day. I am due back to work next week, am a little worried as I don't know if I will be up to it by then, it is worrying me in the back of my mind.
But otherwise it's positive whilst painful.
Hope everyday gets better and better for you.
Take care,
Alan
ann1904 Irish_Al
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tom67073 Irish_Al
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That sounds about right with walking distance. Here they want you to walk to start 100 ft the first week 3x per day 250 ft 3x per day week 2 and so on. By week two should be off the walker and start using a cane. Week 5 to week 6 no cane no walker no crutches. It is pretty amazing how each doctor is different with what to do each week and with medication. For me being out today did me alot of good. But I am feeling it as it's 5am and I been up for past hot tossing and Turing with pain in thigh area very sore. Just took pain meds hope to fall back to sleep soon. May I ask what part of Ireland are you in?. Are you able to lift your leg?
Thanks and have a nice day
Tom
tom67073 Irish_Al
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Hi Thomas,
Everyone progresses at a different rate, so please use the below walking recommendations as a guide only.
Minimum distance: 250ft Minimum frequency: 3x/day Device: progressing to cane or as per your provider's recommendation
Some patients will walk further than the described distances. If walking the described distances is painful, you should stop
This is what I just received from my doctor regarding walk.
sue37592 tom67073
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I think as long as don't over do the walking we are fine, just need to watch don't wak too far one way and then not be able to get home. s
Irish_Al tom67073
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When I walk about 200 feet I have a super view of the sea, beautiful but really beautiful when you haven't seen it for a few weeks ☺.
Physio told me last week, that I can practice one crutch indoors, but not outdoors yet. Many many different opinions from the professionals!
I am in County Wicklow, less than 1 hour from Dublin. Wicklow is known as 'The Garden of Ireland', it is a beautiful county with rolling hills and beautiful beaches. Also a long and I retesting history, one of our big tourist attractions is 'Glendalough' worth
Googleing.
I found this morning that when I got out of bed and moved about the pain eased a bit.
Hope you have a good day too.
Keep posting,
Take care,
Alan
Irish_Al ann1904
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I won't go back until I'm ready but I do worry about it. It's just on my mind.
Thanks again,
Alan
sue37592 Irish_Al
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Have a good day
S
Irish_Al sue37592
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The North is very beautiful too.
When did you stop using crutches indoors? What did physio/surgeon recommend?
Thanks,
Alan
sandra07433 Irish_Al
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sue37592 Irish_Al
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I know I read somewhere but can't remember how many weeks are you now? When are you due back to work? I am supposed to be in a couple of weeks but think I may have to see, I am on my feet 8 1/2 hours a day and do not feel I could manage hat yet. At least I know I am on right track as feel so much better than before. Take care S
Irish_Al sue37592
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I am 5 weeks our tomorrow.
I can manage in house on one crutch.
This morning I took about 25 'half' steps without crutches, had them on hand but not touching ground. Pretty happy with that.
I also did my 0.44 mile walk (around the block) and did a good exercise session. Then I shaved and had a shower.
Right now knee is quite swollen and stiff, but I expect that. I am icing now also.
I don't think I am overdoing it as I feel OK?
All feedback welcome?
Thanks,
Alan
Irish_Al sandra07433
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sandra07433 Irish_Al
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Irish_Al sandra07433
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Let's hope this beautiful weather lasts....
sandra07433 Irish_Al
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tom67073 Irish_Al
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I hope you had great day. I was able to get a few more hours sleep. Done a few exercises this am. Very sore. So have ice now. Going to try a hot shower to see if I can loosen up. I did goggle your town and wow what a beautiful place. Upper and lower lake look amazing. Have a great day
sue37592 sandra07433
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Like you I can't wait to be able to go for a lovely long walk with my wee dog. She really misses me taking her and noone else will take her.
sandra07433 sue37592
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sue37592 Irish_Al
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Well done on going round with out cutches, just be careful and make sure close to something if no crutches to hand.
I found it was the nextday my leg played up if i overdid it so see how you are tomorrow.
I am going for a walk before inner as it is a lovely day here.
Take care s
tom67073 sandra07433
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Been following your post with Sue it sounds like the both of you live in beautiful places. It sounds amazing. I wish I lived in such a place . I am near the city of Philadelphia with about 6 million people to many for me. I hope your day was good and your knee feels good. I just finished my walk so now maybe some lunch and ice. Have a great day
sandra07433 tom67073
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tom67073 Irish_Al
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I hope it's not to early it's at 1245am here just trying to fall asleep guess nervous about physical therapy later today so I thought I would drop a line and say hi. I hope you had a great night and you got some sleep. I would like to know what is a good Irish dish to cook. Something that's easy and good. If you have the time let me know. Have a great day I will be sure to update all on how my therapy went.
Thanks again
Tom
sandra07433 tom67073
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tom67073 sandra07433
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Glad to hear you were able to sleep. Just returned from therapy and was not that bad. Have about 68% bend so that's pretty good. Was able to lift leg from a sitting position. So over all not a bad session. I have another one scheduled for Friday. So continue to walk and do exercises, gave me some new ones to try. Tomorrow staples come out so that will help. Also swelling not to bad, pain what can I say it hurts but did take pain meds before therapy then due for one in an hour or so.
So have a great day and as always thanks
Tom
sandra07433 tom67073
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tom67073 sandra07433
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I hope day was good. It has been a long day kinds of worn out today after physical therapy and doing exercises today. Lots of ice today and rest tonight just like lazed in front of tv. It will be a interesting day tomorrow as it is supposed to be very hot here don't know how the humidity will effect the knee. So I wish you a good night and a good day. Thanks
Tom
tom67073
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All went well with pt today. Day got long as done excerises and now it's hurting. So pain meds and ice. I hope you day went well. Tomorrow my staples come out so I hope that gives a little more rom. Take care have a good day
Thanks
Tom
sandra07433 tom67073
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hope you are getting a good night's sleep and you feel more comfortable with your staples out. Have a good day, hope your hot weather suits your knee, cold here again after the lovely sunshine at the beginning of the week.
Irish_Al sandra07433
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Hope you are well. Interestingly, my knee has been very stiff the last 2 mornings also. Yesterday I attended a group physio session and a couple of the women said they were stiff also. One lady said the weather has cooled and it is damp and that may be the cause. It was lovely here earlier in the week, it is raining last night & this morning. My wife has slight arthritis in her hands and they are very sore this morning.
Not sure, but the chang in the weather nay have some impact.
Take care,
Alan
sandra07433 Irish_Al
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Irish_Al tom67073
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Hope all is well and hope you skept well. I was off line yesterday. I went to a group physio session in Dublin, pretty good overall. Cycled 5K on the exercise bike, did a few other exercises, bur had me standing and stepping up on my operated leg, this was tough, but physio said she wanted to push us, which is fine. My bending (flexion) was just over 90 degrees. I thought it might be closer to 100 but was swollen from tough exercises and stiffer than normal that morning. I was briefly disappointed, but realistically swelling won't help.
Re Irish dish, let me have a think about it b and I'll get back to you later.
Take care,
Alan
tom67073 Irish_Al
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It's 5am here and woke to some pain and stiffness today a little more the yesterday. Could be from therapy and new exercise. They have me laying on my stomach with my knees hanging over the bed for 5 mins to let gravity do the work to help to straight out knee.
Just took the last pain med I have, I hope doctor will prescribed more today if not I see some lone days and nights ahead.
Never asked how many times a week do they send you to physical therapy over there. Here I am scheduled three times a week for next 8 weeks.
So with that I hope everyone has a great day. Take it easy rest and ice
Tom
tom67073 sandra07433
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I hope I can get a few more hours of sleep but time will tell. I asked Alan and I am going to ask you, how many times a week do they send you to physical therapy over there, I am scheduled for three times a week for next 8 weeks.
Will let you know how staple removal goes.
Have a nice day.
Irish_Al tom67073
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Good to hear all is well.
I attend group physio session/circuit once per week in the hospital where the surgery was carried out.I also have a program of exercises to carry out 3 times per day. I usually can only manage twice per day. The physio in the weekly group session gives us at least one or two new exercises to do at home too.
Today, I am also going to a one-to-one physio session in my home town, this is covered by my national health insurance, I am going to check out how useful/effective this is, as I nly have 2 more of the group sessions left to do.
I have to say the pain has not been bad at all, though I do use the painkillers. Some days my knee does feel heavy, like a small concrete block. But overall I feel (think) I am doing well.
Due to rain etc I haven't walked as much as I'd like to, but Otherwise OK.
This forum though has been a great help too, to be able to chat with people in similar situations is fantastic.
Thank you all,
Alan
sandra07433 tom67073
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I get 8 sessions of 1 - 1 physio sessions, 30 minutes every other week, in between I try to do the exercises at least twice a day, I also have the lying across the bed on my stomach one, but I find it really uncomfortable.
Hope the staple removal goes well and you get more meds. Have a lovely day.
tom67073 sandra07433
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I hope all is well and your day was ok. My staple removal went well no pain as still have some numbness in knee area. Surgeon said all looks good nice bend at 90 degrees while sitting on the table. Continue to do pt exercises, gave me new prescription for meds to help next couple of days. Wants me to ween off them. Continue the walker try to change to a cane by next week. He said stiffness will slowly fade away give it time as you just had my knee replaced his way of making a joke. So done my exercises for the day now trying to ice to get some of the swelling out. He also said I could take ibuprofen once in a while yeah yeah. Just feeling a little bit tired today have headache so maybe I will take a nap but it's hot here and ac not working at 100%. So I hope everyone enjoys their night get some rest.
And as always thank you
sandra07433 tom67073
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Thank you.