Labyrinthitis/ Vestibular Neuritis...Please Help
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Hi guys,
First time poster, I hope I can find people that can relate to my condition or help with it. This may be a bit of a long post, I would appreciate it if you would spare some time to read it all.
Condition: Most likely labyrinthits (In my 7th week now)
Background info:
2 months ago at uni when I was in the gym, I was exerting myself doing weights and felt something pop in my left ear. I felt really faint and headed back...over the next few days I had severe vertigo/dizziness/nausea. I also experienced my first anxiety/panic attack when i felt these symptoms, which to be honest felt worse than the actual symptoms. I went to the uni GP and she said I had labyrinthitis (though she did no tests). I also recall not having any flu like symptoms so I'm not sure how it could be viral labyrinthitis. Thankfully all symptoms vanished within 1 week.
Life was back to normal. However 3 weeks later, I was back home for the summer and had been back in the gym for a week or 2 when I felt really lightheaded and faint again. Sometimes I feel like this in the gym when I exert myself so didn't think much of it. I came home however and experienced another anxiety attack. The dizziness/vertigo etc was MUCH LESS severe than the initial attack 3 weeks ago at uni, however it has persisted for coming up to 7 WEEKS now.
Currently:
Over the past 7 weeks, I have had good days and bad days...good hours and bad hours. I went to the local GP who once again said the symptoms matched labyrinthitis without doing any tests. He prescribed some stemetil (which I took only twice as it didn't help and also because I have read everywhere online that it only slows down the recovery from labyrinthitis).
I tried just walking around, passing the ball about with a friend to 'retrain' my brain. However, the symptoms were still in the background and didn't really seem to disappear. But I did feel much better then than I do now.
For the past week, everything seems to have gotten worse. I have spent more time in bed than normal as my friends are on holiday at the moment and I'm not sure if this is the cause? As I'm no longer carrying on with things as normal.
Other info:
Since day 1, I have also had a popping sensation in my left ear every time I swallow.
Head feels heavy. Neck aches. Feel a pressure within my head/ear.
Though I have had anxiety attacks a few times, lately it feels like I'm on the verge of one all the time.
I also have other normal symptoms such as feeling nauseous, tiredness etc.
Very recently, it feels like my vision is a part of the problem too. My eyes feel very heavy and like I cant focus on things. Also, the last few days, I see little flashes of lights which aren't actually there (this has only happened about 3 times in as many days)
Note: I have finally managed to get a specialist ENT appointment, which isnt for another 5 weeks unfortunately, but better than nothing. I'm sure at that point, they will confirm it to be labyrinthitis or something similar as the symptoms all match.
Questions:
Is there anyone else in a similar situation as me? How are you dealing with it?
I have done some generic VRT exercises, but it doesn't seem to help too much. Thoughts about VRT?
What triggers your symptoms? For me it's been hot weather, shower, loud noises, bright lights, dim lights and more (nothing specific).
My anxiety seems to be triggered by anything that I think is abnormal, e.g. sudden tingling somewhere on my body, sudden temporary noise in my ears, sudden temporary dizziness etc etc. All of which is probably normal, but they seem to trigger anxiety when I feel like this. Does this also happen to anyone else?
Are there any tips to control the anxiety? I swear its a lot worse than actual dizziness.
Are there any tips to control the dizziness? Such as VRT or others. Is it better to stay active and feel worse for a short while or should I just stay in bed?
Any other useful information?
WILL THIS EVER END?? I have read some success stories, but will it really take months to years??
Is it also true that even if it goes away, it can come back any time in the future? This is what scares me the most as it seems there is no permanent cure.
I am getting seriously depressed about this as the past 7 weeks have been pure hell, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!
Thanks for listening to my rant/story. I am looking forward to hearing back from anyone at all!
Thank you
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shishir
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Wow, it is crazy how similar our symptoms are, more so the timeline of how these symptoms evolved. I am sorry to hear you weren't able to get through the test, but please see if you can as thats the only conclusive method to give you a result. I do understand how painful it can be (though all the doctors said it was a painless thing, maybe we were unlucky) and I only just managed to get through it, the painful bit was only about a minute long but boy was it painful.
Your symptoms of your first attack couldnt be more like mine if it tried, I had the exact same feelings, sweats,hot/cold flushes etc while I was in the gym, but I just went straight back to my room instead of the hospital. I also had false motion and still do to this day but at a lesser extent, its most noticeable when I lie down on my side and it feels like all the objects are moving slowly, thats just nystagmus in your eyes and its part of the whole VN/lab symptoms.
I had identical ear clogged feeling, migrating from on ear to another, but this dies down over time. I would highly suggest you go to a different more recommended ENT if you weren't satisfied with these guys. Also, DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT take valium anymore, I'm really surprised they prescribed it for you! Valium helps with anxiety but as you clearly mentioned you can get addicted to it, not only that but the whole process of recovery needs you to be active and valium makes you tired. If they ever prescribe DIAZEPAM, stay away from that, this is usually given for dizziness and this may help you for a day or to but makes recovery in the long run much slower or stops it completely.
The biggest problem is the fact that overnight you would have gone from being active to being completely disabled from doing anything. And this is an 'invisible' condition, if people believe you're just making this up you'll feel even worse.
There is light at the end of the tunnel. For some people its recovery, for others like me its reduction of the symptoms so you can atleast carry on with day to day activities (I'ms till hoping I recover over time).
Key is to stay positive and keep active as much as you can. I also don't believe VRT will do anything for you at all at this stage as you are already quite active. VRT will only help people who have been bed ridden with absolutely no movement.
I hope this helps, if you need more help, PM me with your e-mail as I don't check these forums often.
cweez720 shishir
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megb4387
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It hit me out of nowhere as well. It was after I got a cold that my anxiety started coming back full force and then one day at work I lost it. Dizzy, the sweats, lightheaded, etc. I actually thought it was my blood sugar so I ate a ton of chocolate and it didn’t do any good. I didn’t go to the hospital; chalked it up to a bad anxiety attack and went home. But when I woke up the next day I knew it wasn’t right, and that’s when the long journey to recovery began
I definitely have the false motion sensation. I find the hardest thing is trying to focus on moving things.. especially outside. I work in a school and watching the children running on the playground sends me into a spell. I’ve also noticed my triggers are my sunglasses (weird, I know) and florescent lighting. I am constantly moving although I am still as well so don’t worry.. I definitely know what you’re going through! Just like you I have aches and pains in my neck and shoulders! Also, I have pressure in my head, clogged nose some days, and my ears (especially my right ear) are always clogged. And when I swallow I head a weird popping/pressure noise in my right ear.. and upon talking to Shishir I realized that he has the same.
I completely understand what you’re going through and I am here if you want to compare more symptoms or just to talk. I found the people on here to be VERY supportive which is what I need. Everyone in my life seems to be so dismissive about the illness considering they don’t understand how debilitating this can be- especially since us sufferers look completely normal from the outside.
How is your vision through this? I find my eyes are weak and tired.. and sometimes I get “shakes” in them, so to say. I can’t focus on anything right.. it drives me mad!
Hope to hear from you soon!
Meg
DizzyDarren megb4387
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Like yours my eyes are always weak and tired but I don't get the shakes
tiffkajewski
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thank you both for replying. I don't have anyone around me who can relate to this at all - so it is nice to have somebody on here that knows how i am feeling! my symptoms aren't so bad when i lye down - they kind of ease up a bit when i am lying down. The lady who conducted my balance test managed to get over a half way point. i was there for 1.5 hours of the 2 hour test. The air being blown into my right ear set me off (i was wearing those goggles with the tiny camera inside), it set me off into a full blown spin and i felt as though i was going to pass out. i couldnt handle it any longer. my head was a major rush & having to drive 4hours back home after my test, it wasnt an option to push myself any further! she managed to see a weaker side throught the evaluation of the beginnning of the testing though (following lights, moving objects, dots being in different positions, etc). I couldnt bare doing it all again.It was too much for me.
Is there anything else you can suggest other than the VRT? I work full time, can walk around my house, workplace, yard, hang washing when i am feeling ok, cook & clean & drive short distances... do you think VRT will benefit me?? is there anything else they can offer in terms of managing or getting ontop of my false motion?? I was given stemitil when this first came about - though had it for a couple of days and stopped as it knocked me out cold for hours. I wil be seeing a specialist at the end of this month, & he said if i was still experiencing all of the symptoms he would refer me to a neurologist and get an MRI. he thinks it is now vestibular migraines. though i don't know. I think they are just grabbing at straws here. telling me it could be this - it could be that. Where i live, our specialist doctors fly out once a month. So, regardless of anything, i have to wait a month in between visits.
ALSO! how long did the pressure/fullness inside your ears last?? did you get fevers with them aswell?? or feel hot and flustered? They give me a headache aswell & at times, pushing on them makes them feel a little better.. though they ache constantly! I think this plays a HUGE part of how i am feeling. have you ever done anything or taken anything to get relief?? it is driving me insane. i am constantly rubbing them and poking them to get a bit of different sensation, as the aching is horrible.
My eyes sometimes feel "weak". though i could close them and goto sleep. when i am driving or walking around, i feel like i have to keep moving them and looking at different things to keep myself from feeling dizzy or funny in the head...
you are so right about everyone being so dismissive because i "look healthy" i should BE HEALTHY. like i am pretending. its not the case and it drives me mad! Megb have you still got symptoms?
have either of you ever felt as though you could float away?? that sounds strange, i know, though when i am walking... i often get the sensation that (please dont thnk i am crazy) my legs arent there or arent moving.. as i feel so lightheaded and strange.
its is crazy.
how did you get ontop of your false motion? or do you do anything to help you control it when it comes out of nowhere??
I appreciate your replies. I felt so alone in this illness until i read this.. it seems to be so common, yet so unheard of and noone seems to have any relief for it or ways to get over it all! the medical profession need to look further into these sorts of things!!
Tiff
shishir
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First of all, I completely got mixed up with my drug names earlier, it was Stemetil that I was meant to say that you avoid completely (looks like you aren't taking it anyway) as that hampers your recovery process.
The only problem with the balance tests for me was with the air blowing thing, surprisingly I had no problems with the camera or the white dot, maybe it was tougher for you as you are still in the early stages. With regards to the VRT, I will use the same analogy I gave meg- with your current 'high' levels of activity VRT will be useless, it's like a bodybuilder training by lifitng pillows, it won't do you any good! VRT is only useful for someone who is completely inactive. The best thing I can suggest for you is to very slowly keep upping the intensity of your activities. Bear in mind though, at this early stage you may just have to fight through the dizziness.
I STILL have the ear symptoms, thought not as much as when I first started out, I can live with it now. Unfortunately, the doctors don't think it's related (I have no idea how they came to this conclusion!?) and so I never found a cure for it, it just does down slowly. I never had headaches, but I had neck and shoulder pain due to stress, paracetamol help sometimes, but massages are even better. This can be controlled if you get your anxiety under control.
My visual problems were one of the more prominent and debilitating symptoms- tired eyes, strained eyes, blurry vision, unfocused vision, seeing flashes etc etc etc. I had to constantly move them around as well to not 'drift' into a weird panicky state if that makes sense. I tried to get lots of sleep and fresh air and keep my eyes healthy by not going on the TV/Laptop as much. I still have these symptoms too, but at a lesser extent.
Overall, all the symptoms I had at the start are still there...but much less severe now. Theres no medicine for this, no exercises and no cure which will treat it overnight. The biggest factors are time and the exercises you do to retrain your bran (which you seem to be doing with the washing etc.) AND do yoga/breathing exercises to control your anxiety, trust me that is the biggest factor of them all!
megb4387
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Anyway, yes, I know EXACTLY what you’re going through and can relate to you. Shish has been a tremendous help with me as well- we’re all in this together!
I haven’t (and probably won’t) have the balance test done. It seems like hell from what everyone is saying. Honestly, the more you move the better it is. Yeah, it’s tiring.. but at the end of the day you’re in better shape than the day before. I haven’t done VRT, except online excersizes I’ve found, and they make me feel crappier.
Pressure/fullness is still here for me and I am working on my second month. My temperature has been permanently raised since this started, though some people don’t experience that. I think it’s because it’s a virus that is in us- so we’re bound to feel sick and bound to feel different things. My ears ache all the time too, so does my jaw. Do you get that? I take painkillers EVERY DAY for this.
I absolutely have to move my head around when driving or walking or I feel like I’m going to have a seizure.. not that I know what that feels like.. but yeah. I still have symptoms and they will probably stay for a while.
It’s funny that you mention the floating away. I feel that ALL THE TIME.. it is insane and scary. I sometimes forget I have legs.. lol!
How are you feeling now?
Meg
jackie64256 shishir
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tiffkajewski shishir
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You can email me at tiffkajewski @ hotmail dot com
thankyou
tiff
magnets123 shishir
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Babz36 magnets123
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I am am making slow progress as 5 weeks ago I could barely do anything at all, now I'm up and back put doing things. I get very tired and when I get tired the wooziness/dizziness is worse but I've found eating regularly, keeping well hydrated and not expecting too much of myself is really helping. I'm a single mum to 4 kids so getting rest is hard but they have been amazing. The key is keep doing, but don't overdo it. Xxxx
DizzyDarren shishir
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I have had Vestibuar Neuronitis since 2009 and its still as vile for me today as it was all those years ago when it started.
I was 40 when I was diagnosed and I was told that my brain will compensate but my docs would never tell me how long it would take and now I know why...haha
For me I am just getting by and hoping that if I allow enough time to pass, I will get better but as the years have gone on I am sure I am just kidding myself. I flit between 75% and 95% of the old me.
I pretty much will do my best to avoid anything that will make me feel off balance and dizzy.
No more Gym (Treadmill Travel Sick)
No more supermarkets (I feel sick the moment I step in side)
No more queuing (If I stand still for too long...I sway inside my own skin)
No more motorway driing (My eyes can't cope with the visual business)
No more cinema (The big screen makes me vile)
Don't get me wrong I do do these things in and out but they do make me vile and I certainly don't want to put the dampner on things but VN and Labs and I think it is one of those things younger people get over easier than older people. I'm in my mid 40's and I am convinced my brain is too lazy to compensate.
I'd love to share notes/ cures with all of you :-)
Babz36 DizzyDarren
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DizzyDarren Babz36
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I did some VRT back in 2009 but it didn't work for me but wife says I should go back on it but I am not so sure. I've been trying to go about my business over the last few years and I reckon that's VRT in itself isn't it haha?
I used to be a sales rep and yes like you I have become anxious and do my very best to avoid social situations. I am happy to go to friends' houses for dinner but I do avoid pub's and clubs and sometimes restaurants..
Like you I also get headache and neck pain and yes I am always tired despite getting a good nights sleep.
I have seen an ENT and it was him that diagnosed VN. I have seen a Chiroprator to loosen my neck, which she did but I swear I feel dizzier now than before I first met her. I had a few treatments with an accupucturist but I don't think that helped.
How long have you had it? and to be at 30% you must feel absolutely vile. Who would've thought that the smallest part of your body could give you so much grief.
How long have you been taking ginkgo biloba?
Babz36 DizzyDarren
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Im im studying acupuncture myself and am also a massage therapist so you'd think I could help myself, but alas no! I'm starting a course of reflexology tomorrow too to see if that helps.
Its such a frustrating thing to suffer from as people can't see it so don't understand how crappy you can feel at times! Xx
DizzyDarren Babz36
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I know it might seem difficult right now but try not to feel anxious or depressed about it. It will only exaserbate things. Vertigo is not life threatening, it's just a nasty horrible inconvenience which you will have to adjust your life around for the time being.
I hope you get better soon !!
Babz36 DizzyDarren
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cweez720 DizzyDarren
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