LASTING LIPITOR SIDE-AFFECTS FOR 4 YEARS

AS I mentioned before, I quit taking it after only 3 weeks....

Sorry,long day. It took me 3 years,i had muscle wasteing,could barely lift my purse plus about 15 other issues. Finally theyve resiolved,frankly I dont know what to tell you, I remember reading up on vitamins etc to help with nerve function etc. I took quite a few. If only doctors would stop pushing these horrid med. Wish it was easier to sue the drug companies. Xx

I couldnt get my doctor to agree that the statins I was taking were causing my problems, he got quite angry with me and told me that reading info online was likely to be more dangerous than any statin would be!  I flushed them down the toilet against his best advice.  It took me three years to start to feel any better.  I still have issues with muscle reduction even though I was a keen swimmer and ate heathily.  Late last year I had such awful arm pains that my doctor finally agreed for me to have some ultrasounds.  This showed up that I had full thickness ruptures in both bicep tendons and one shoulder.  I asked the ultrasound technician what type of injury would cause this in others he saw with the same problems, he said it was usually down to muscle weakness and could be doing even everyday tasks like lifting a kettle! I know in my heart this is due to the devastating and permanent damage those statins did to me but no doctor will ever agree with that.  Big pharma has them in their pocket to the tune of billions, they arent going to shoot their golden egg laying goose are they.

It's a worry after all our heart is a muscle.  I think GPs just don't like us knowing anything, if we research enough, we end up knowing more than them as they just  'general' practitioners about all ailments.  Did you have calcium in the ultrasound.  I've never had trouble until the statins and developed a big calcium deposit in the shoulder, I swear it was the muscles wasting.  

I dont even have my numbers tested anymore,there is no point. I am not taking that stuff again,at one point i felt so odd I thought I was dieing. Xx

I also had the shoulder issue,you are right,my husbands doctor gets mad if you look up stuff and know too much,its rediculous, they need to spend some time on the computer!

Imagine that we didn't have online research just the good old library with outdated books and relied solely on our GP, we wouldn't know as much.  I approached my local pharmasist and said about my weight loss and the statin and she told me to come off them, my gp was useless when I asked why am I losing weight his reply 'who knows' didn't even look up what medication I was on. I remember also feeling sick, dizzy, and tired at the time but thought it was menopause or something I'd eaten.  I also remember crippling pain in legs, overnight cramps as well.  It did bring my cholesterol down though.  What has your gp said for future lowering of cholesterol Trisha? They say try another brand but surely it's just a name change the affects do the same?

The GP did her best to try to persuade me to try a different brand but I refused and said I would do it by diet, she then told me it was very difficult to use diet alone and a statin would be best. So to try to prove her wrong I put myself on a strict diet, cut out all cakes, chocolate, biscuits, sugar, ate lots of fruit and veg, oily fish twice a week, went walking a lot.....eight months later and I have just had another blood test to find that my cholesterol has gone up! Can you believe it. Not much point on being on a diet then so my cholesterol will just have to remain as it is because no one could ever persuade me to take another statin.

You can only do your best Trisha.  I think there is a lot of sugar in fruit I know it's a natural sugar but still it's still a sugar.  I think when we exercise we need cholesterol so if we aren't takng enough in our bodies make more anyway.  I find it mad how some people who do no exercise and eat what they want have low cholesterol.

 

I read somewhere that when you diet at first your numbers go up.

But is it your TC or your ratio that has risen? My TC last time I had it taken was 6.6 but the ratio was 2.4 and that, the GP said, was the important number.  i won't take a statin although it was offered, As Loxie says it' Big Pharma's golden goose, they are not going to kill it are they?

And don't we all need cholesterol anyway?  They keep lowering the numbers but not giving any concrete evidence as to why.  You wonder why they don't advocate putting statins in the drinking water supply.

You are right Jane and to be honest your ratio is very good.  You could have a total of 4.5 but only have a 1.2 good cholesterol so in affect your ratio is worse.  My first ever test was 2010 and was 6.5 with 2.8 good cholesterol hubbys was 4.5 and 1.2 good cholesterol.  I think lack of oestrogen plays a role with us and wonder if that's why mine went up. So maybe Trishas good went up and so total went up.  I don't think you need statins either.  X

Have you heard of the "rebound effect" ? It supposedly takes your cholesterol level back to pre statin days after you stop taking the drug.EVEN with a strict diet and daily exercise.

meaning  what, that the cholesterol will rise again and more besides? Well so what, every cell needs the stuff and the whole cholesterol thing is based on a lie. Like many bad ideas it came from America and was taken on board like religion.

lmeaning that.... eating beans and seeds and exercising like crazy dont do  THING to your cholesterol level. Its all a myth!

Thing is Ellen unless you have some fat or sugar you'll have no energy to exercise  especially on beans and that, I'm afraid I still eat treats I'd feel too ill otherwise.  Mine was higher after taking up cycling doing 80 miles a week than when I went everywhere in car so I don't really believe the exercise thing, I think it makes you healthy in more other ways though.

Some people just have a naturally higher cholesterol count than others.....  like my husband and his brother.....  their family does NOT DIE  of heart failures and it has nothing to do with what you eat.  I can actually lower my cholesterol count by avoiding butter, animal fat meats like bacon and sausage, which I have proved time and again.  It doesn't work that way for everyone

I have personally found that if I quit eating butter or anything made with butter, poultry skin, sausage, high-fat content meats like hotdogs, and I cut off all fatty parts of any meat I cook, my cholesterol drops naturally.   There are also foods that you can eat that help drop cholesterol and some that don't cause inflammation.  I found which foods for my lists on Pinterest.

unfortunately if high cholesterol runs in the family , ie what they call familial, diet changes dont make a lot of difference.  I'm vegetarian, eat no meat fat whatsoever and eat whole grains, beans, vegetables,etc etc but my cholesterol is rocket high at nearly 9.  Statins reduce cholesterol but the jury is out on whether they actually prevent heart disease, as they reduce all cholesterol, including the HDL which is not good for the heart.

At the time of the stroke my cholesterol was 6.5. HDL 1.6.LDL 4.0.Tri 1.8.Ratio 4.0. After the strict diet for eight months it was 6.8. HDL 1.7.LDL 3.8.Tri 2.9. Ratio 4.0. So for the difference it made I really don't see the point in depriving myself of things I like eating.

Your TRI the very bad one went down Trisha so you did good, think that's from sat fats. X

No it went up Sue, from 1.8 to 2.9, so you think that could be sat fats? I thought I'd cut them out of my diet so will have to review the situation as I'm obviously doing something wrong.

I think bread, potatoes and carbohydrates are bad Trisha well so my daughter goes on at me.  They all convert to sugar.  Thing is bread is cheap and depending on your income it's a quick thing to eat.  I can't know my numbers I'd be a basket case then.  Some days I say what I've had to eat and it's not a lot really, maybe it's what I eat though, if I'm feeling fed up I need some treat

Forgot I wonder if stress has a lot to do with this,I'm a stress head can't change really.

Sue, I am a sugar addict.  Full on, no-holds-barred sugar addict.  But I have found ways to get around this.  Fresh fruit.  I also understand the money aspect.  But let me ask you this, when you stress out what is it you really want - consolation? love?    If you were taking care of someone you dearly loved and they had a physical problem, would you do all you could to keep them on track regardless of how they felt?  like a child?  WE HAVE TO LOVE OURSELVES ENOUGH to take care of ourselves in spite of life.  Wow, I have heard that so many times from people and just wouldn't accept it.  Now, I've decided NOT to be a victim of that stress and let it mess me up.  Its a life lesson.

Lifes short,accidents happen etc,have a few treats and dont feel guilty. None of us live forever,but chances are when we go it probably will have nothing to do with choelesterol. That being said sugar is an inflamatory. Ive read inflamation ls caused more by sweets then choelesterol. Xx