Liver pain fatty liver

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Dear all I got diagnosed with a fatty liver 6 months ago I have a pain in my right side hurts like hell some days other days not as bad trapped gas makes it worse now since then I've gone from 15st to 13st I run 30 miles a week I do half marathons etc but pain is still there getting me down now I was under the impression lose weight fat it'll go but no different really now I know I'm still overweight but will this ever go I know it's nerve endings that cause the pain I guess certain foods don't help but not sure what as I see a lot of doctors just say you've a fatty liver best you get of them lose weight that's it my belly is still fat but no where near what it was I was 18st a year ago as I say lots of excercise but pain just as bad if I release gas tends to feel bit better I don't drink or smoke any advice greatly appreciated or people who had it and got better

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    The liver has no nerve endings, it does not give painful feelings. Is it upper right quadrant?
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    Hi mate I think your doing the correct things, keep drinking loads of water, eat the right foods, and avoid sugars and fatty foods as sugar for me triggers a flare up! And running for me gives me so much relief! After a good run pretty much all the pain goes but does come back over the next day or so!! Not sure why but it defo works for me, your lucky in some ways as you have a diagnosis I've had liver area pain for nearly 20 years blood always perfect except for high cholesterol and ultra sound good too, your learn pretty quickly that unless your yellow with a pot belly and a red nose the medical profession don't give you the time of day! I have so many of what seam like the obvious signs of liver problems that I find it so frustrating! I find myself not going to doctors anymore unless I'm feeling really unwell!! Anxiety apparently but I know it's my liver!!!!! Just looking to pay for a private Fibroscan apparently as good as a biopsy! Good luck and keep me updated Simon aged 43

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    Hello I too have fatty liver (I'm also T2 diabetic).  I get discomfort under right rib radiating to the back below my right shoulder blade.  I am slowly losing weight to improve things but it's going to be long and slow.  My LFT's all come back OK and due to have them done again soon.   My gallbladder and pancreas showed up ok on scan apart from liver cyst and fatty liver.  It's annoying.

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      Am getting nervous about my forthcomng LFT's.   It does worry me now knowing i have fatty liver (on top of everything else) but i am trying to rectify this with weight loss and excercis (not easy).  So far, my LFT results have come back OK.  I saw a programme last night 'GP's behind closed doors' and an alcoholic chap was one of the patents and his LFT's were in the hundreds and he had cirihossis of the liver.  I think he was still drinking as the doctor was trying to point out to him how important it was for him to quit.  I don't drink (only the odd glass of wine at special occasions) so feel a bit upset that i have NAFLD but doctors don't tend to worry about this as much as i do.   Do they doctors only 'worry' about things when it gets to a point where something has to be done?

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      Your diet is also important in dealing with fatty liver. Stop eating takeaways and boxed/oven/microwave dinners and eat home made food. Do not equate foods with fat as bad, the body is made up of fat and it requires it to function. Fat like protein keeps us feeling fuller for longer. The bad things is carbs, the unused sugar turns to fat and virtually everything we eat these days is full of sugar and carbs.

      Think about it, you see blokes with beer bellies, how much fat is in beer? None, it is all carbs that turns to fat.

       

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      Thanks for your reply.  Yes it does make sense.  Since i have cut down my carbs and sugar intake my BS levels (i'm T2 diabetic) have improved and hope it will also improve my fatty liver.  I watched an interesting programme last night about Fat and Carbs.

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      https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/diabetes/

      I just wrote out a huge reply and it got bloody deleted. I'll try and be a brief but basically whilst you are correct that excess carbs though you should stress excess refined and simple carbohydrates will also add to a calorie problem if overeating.. it is mainly dietary fat even healthy fat in excess which causes the cells to become saturated and unable to accept sugar which causes the pancreas to stress out producing more and more insulin. Fructose is also a problem in high fructose corn syrup. But the main culprit is animal fats meat cheese and dairy. Even so cold healthy meats like chicken and fish are heavily linked with diabetes and I am living proof.

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      I understand your position, but I disagree. I eat plenty of cheese, butter, full fat milk, eggs and if I have a steak with a bit of fat on it, I eat that as well, rather than cut it off. Our system uses fat to digest food. I went down this route after an acute hospital dietician recommended this to me. I do however eat porridge everyday for breakfast - normal boring porridge with nothing added.

      My cholesterol is 4.2.

      Fructose and similar is the problem, animal and dairy fats, no. We will have to agree to disagree.

       

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      "There are many causes of liver disease; the most common are infections with viruses and alcohol. Continuous injury with either of these agents results in permanent loss of liver tissue. One of the changes in the liver that occurs during injury is the accumulation of fat within the liver cells. This condition known as fatty infiltration commonly occurs in alcoholism, diabetes and obesity, and is in part due to a high-fat diet. With severe liver damage, liver cells are replaced by extensive scar tissue–the condition is known as cirrhosis of the liver."

      Obviously this man is a convicted Vegan.

      We can all say 'I did X and I'm fine' - but I think your approach is dangerous, to yourself and others.

      Not everything is about cholesterol - what about your blood pressure, insulin and blood sugar - how often do you get those checked? And how old are you?

      I am not trying to tell you what to think, just saying, that one can feel relieved of symptoms of pre-diabetes etc due to lowering blood sugar, yet they're still building long term insulin resistance and creating problems further down the road (clogged arteries and heart disease) my father eats exactly the same as you. Diabetic, with stents in his arteries.

      I ate the same as you now, for 20 years, that's how I got sick. My symptoms are under control on a starch based low fat diet... and I disagree that this is somehow because we're all different - I think it's far more likely that the sort of damage you do on this high fat diet is obscured by cutting carbs but not stopped all together - as I said - you benefit yourself not flooding yourself with sugars ontop of fats, because that is a deadly combo - but a lot of fat and protein by themselves also create serious health problems.

      The carbs are not 'dangerous' by any stretch in the absence of tons of saturated fat, salt and refined sugars. One needs common sense - a bag of dates is still a lot of fructose and pretty taxing on the liver compared to various portions of fruit throughout the day. Also if one has eaten until stuffed, and adds a huge bowl of fruit on top, excess calories can still be an issue or stress especially in a state of sickness - but healthy people should be fine, if active...

      Add saturated fat in the mix, even monounsaturated fat like Olive oil in excess, and things get messy. As my friend Dr Caldwell says: NO OIL! It's NOT a health food.

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