Living with Forestier's disease

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I have finally found info on Forestier's disease!!

When I was first diagnosed back in 1988 my doctor had no material on this subject. I was told to go home and find it on my computer, which I did. There was a researcher in Canada who hit the nail right on the head, Forestier's is no pick nick! He was so right!

When I was first diagnosed with the disease, I was in a lot of back pain. I had x-rays done and this article is correct....my vertebral area looked as if I were leaking wax. I saw all sorts of bony hooks hanging from each and every vertebrate and I was in a lot of pain; but my doctor at that time said I couldn't be in pain, as it wasn't painful??? On the contrary, the article I was told to research stated that there is a great deal of pain associated with the disease and eventually it would be crippling and that is where I am, 20 years later.

At the first time I was diagnosed, I didn't know that my choking could be associated with the disease itself, I thought it was just asthma...after all \"it isn't that bad.\" I was placed on many anti-inflammatory medications. I was place on one that I suddenly would loose my speech and get confused...I was told they might be TIA's. Later this particular drug was found to do just that. Since it wasn't helping, I was put on another anti-inflammatory and the doctor doubled the recommended dose and later I found that the sphincter muscle to my stomach and been burned away from too much of a good thing.

I was told not to see a chiropractor and for good reason! I had a complication from a surgery and they had to knock me out in order to go down my throat....while under someone turned my head further than I could myself and broke a facet in my neck; now I have plates in my neck and need more surgery....Once my neck was repaired, I didn't choke any longer. Right now, the disease has gotten so bad that I have many areas of stenosis and nerve root cut off. The neurosurgeon who performed my first neck surgery stated that every opening that allows the nerve roots to channel through my body was loaded with razor sharp spurs. This is just the spinal region of my body.

I am beginning to calcify at every ligament insertion site. I have bony over growth in my feet, which interfere with the articulation of my foot joints. I can feel the bones sticking out of my ankles and the tops of my feet; I'm beginning to fuse in my left foot. In three weeks I'm heading for a double knee replacement because my left knee can't support my knee cap; over growth of bone has pushed it away. It is getting more and more difficult to participate in daily activities as my range of motion is becoming limited. My elbows and my shoulders are affected as well...I can feel bony growth there as well. I'm losing feeling in my legs, as my nerves are being pinched; the pain shoots down to my feet and it is gripping. My hands can't grip a phone for any length of time.

I found if my pain can be controlled, I can function well, but too many doctors are not up on the pain this disease produces. Controlling the pain keeps me moving, and that is what you need to do, but the support isn't there for this. The disease is so rare that it is brushed off as regular osteoarthritis and it isn't, it's no where near the same.

I was diagnosed in my thirties and I have lived with chronic pain for over twenty years now. I was told that it affects mostly males over the age of 70....bunk! It is genetic, as my mother had it and wasn't properly diagnosed with the disease and my brother has it as well. My mother and I were deeply affected, she had it her feet as well and by the time she reached 70, she couldn't walk without crying in despair.

I had one doctor treat me with Suboxone and it was the only drug that gave me back the quality of life others enjoyed. He left for the north and I am back in severe pain once again. The problem with this disease, it's a square peg and everyone wants to fit into a round hole. I try to keep a smile on my face for my families sake, but the pain can be read all over my face. I'm still young, by today's standards and I just want to be a participant in this life, not stuck in some corner watching my life and the world go passed me.

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    I believe that taking vitamin K2 might just go a long way toward taking the rogue calcium out of the soft tissues and putting it into the bones based on the book "Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox".

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      Hi Ruth,   Very interesting...... I will look into that book, I am getting desparate for something to work for my pain.
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    hi can anyone please advice me,my husband was diagnosed with forestiers disease last week ,only as i read the test results on the consultants computer as she was speaking to my husband,thus i proceeded in asking her what it was,she inturn had to google it,so i requested that she print of my husbands results so i was able to investigate further.he was diagnosed with spinal stenosis over ten years ago and underwent decompression of root nerve of the lower spine,then since then has had a diagnosis of c.o.p.d ,angina,diebitis,arthiritus,his immune system is attackng itself and hes over producing ck in his muscles ,he is awaiting nerve conduction and biopsy results for this ,please any advice on best how i can support him,get more information and any medicines/therepies possible to help him with the chronic pain he is always in.he is so positive and trys to keep mobile but i feel this is impinging on his dailyy life and i want desperatly to help him.kind regards 
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      This sounds very familiar I have both Forestier's Disease and COPD and spinal stenosis so with the rib cage stiffening and closing down it is a constant fight. I have read that someone has set up a web site also on Facebook. I tried to join Facebook but with no luck. Technology defeats me. At least you know there are others in the same predicament. I am cautious about putting too much on this forum but happy for you to e mail me direct if that helps or you think I can be of help. You are not alone.

      Al

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      I would not worry about the Facebook page - it is predominantly contributed to by Amercians and bears hardly any resemblance to therapies we in the UK have avilable to us. For example they use drugs which  have been withdrawn here due to severe side effects.
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      Do tell phillip, I am an American and would be interested in knowing what drugs we are using here for foresters disease? And wonderful therapies do you have in the UK that are doing wonders with this horrible disease?
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      Celebrex for example - no need for sarcasm. It is a bad enough disease as it is.

       

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      You are the one who put down Americans and Bears(whatever that means). I have had Foresters for over 20 years and been to countless doctors and none have ever prescribed things such as celebrex, as that would do no good for this disease. Still waiting to hear what therapies you all have discovered in the UK so I can learn something new that might help me.
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      Philip regarding the FaceBook DISH site there are over 500 members there from ALL over the world where we discuss a lot of treatment ideas and share our experiences so that we can be of support to everyone who has this unfortunate unrelenting condition. In addition to this site we have a page solely dedicated to research. I do believe we presently have the largest on line presence and latest available research not only that done in the US but worldwide. We try and focus our energies towards finding out more about DISH and helping each other and we try to avoid any discourse as that is not helpful.....after all our common goal is to find out more about DISH and find a cure or relief from pain as best we can. God Bless us all and stay well! 🙏🙏🙏
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      Thank you for your information burjiss, I will try to find that site and join in.biggrin
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      Deborah you are most welcome and remember to ask to join both the Regular and the DISH Research site where I hope you get a lot of your questions answered.
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      Do you have DISH , if so what type of therapy do they give to you, where are you from? The therapy they have done on me hasn't work.  And I am not taking any pain pills. Appreciate any informatoin oyu can give me.   Thanks
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    Michael and Geoffrey I have D.I.S.H have been through same problems,I have done basic web site if you are interested type in address bar

    http://dish-explained.weebly.com/ title is dish Steve's perspective button in top left corner for pages Ihope it helps in some way Steve

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    Thanks so much for posting! My problems started very early, by my thirties I was having breathing problems and swelling of my feet and legs, and severe back pain. I was misdiagnosed with asthma, primary pulmonary hypertension, spondylarthropy, tendon tears, neuropathy, Lupus, etc. But our uncoordinated healthcare system did everything except X-ray my spine. Same as you, it was shocking, looking like a candle that someone took a blow torch to, long tendrils of bony growths top to bottom, 

    impinging on my spinal column and tendons throughout my spine. I was immediately booked for neurosurgery as it was determined I might stop breathing at any time, so cervical was first, followed a couple years later by the same 4 level lumbar fusion, instrumentation, removal of bone spurs, decompression of the spinal canal, and bone grafts to replace my damaged discs. Old injuries had fused.

    the recovery was nearly a year. By this time I began having severe muscle cramping as well and foot, ankle, knee and achilles tendon involvment. I also had severe fatigue and am not allowed to lift over 20 lbs. I also began seeing an ophthalmologist, as inflammation has been affecting my eyes for over 10 years. Finally, I also experience difficulty swallowing and frequent bouts of hoarseness, probably from osteophytes impinging on my esophagus. This is a helluva disease, especially if you have suffered your entire life. I have been treated like I was crazy, stupid, exaggerating my pain levels and all sorts of other misogynistic baloney. Now that I'm in a sort of end stage, of course I finally got the diagnosis that took 30 years here in the States. My mother also had this, as well as my niece and great aunt. My advice - lok at your own X-rays. The melted candle wax look is a dead give away. Swim as frequently as possible, eat organic and Paleo, keep your stress under control. Take supplements. Find support. My family won't have anything to do with me, as they went through this with my Mom for 30 years, and it's too much for them. Right now I'm trying to find a treatment program or research program.  Hope this helps! 

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      Thank you so much for your post. I am so sorry you have have this at such a young age. F+++ your family, sorry but mine is so not supportive either. Even my loving husband has a hard time understanding just how rough it is because some days I seem perfectly normal (sort of).

       If you can ride a bicycle it helps too.

      I've pretty much decided to take whatever pills that relieve pain and enjoy my foods and champagne because I will only be here a short while anyway...so why give up what little pleaures we have.

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      PS. I elected for NO surgery, as it will only lead to a long recovery and and a fast re growth of the spurs. Good luck and may the Gods be with you.
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      I have finally come to that realization, meds

      24 7, trying my best to enjoy life but with my personality it's not working, glad it's working for you.

      Paul

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      I've got it down to 3 hydrocodone a day that I take in haves at a time, starting at around 2 p.m. Then I enjoy a few glasses of champagne and sleep comes easy by 11pm. I just endure the pain as long as possible in the mornings so that I may get things done like grocery shopping and house work while wearing a back brace. Next month I will begin some water therapy and let you all know how that goes. I can still lift weghts wit my arms and that helps to keep them strong. It seems that all we can do is keep the body parts that work strong enough to carry the broken parts around. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Good luck everyone.

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