LS &LP gone mad after pelvic floor op

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Hi I had pelvic floor surgery 3 weeks ago which was done vaginally. I am now really suffering especially with LP. I use dermovate twice a week and vagifem monthly (can't at the moment as I still have loads of stitches ) but I am so sore. Not sure if I should use the dermovate daily for a week to see if it settles or not. My dermatologist isn't easy to contact for advice. Help !

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    I use witch hazel in a spray bottle then dab dry and then put 98 percent aloe Vera gel and at night Manuka honey 15+ I would ask your doctor if that would be ok with the stitches though but it helps so much I say a difference the first day hope you feel better so sorry for your situation
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      Thanks i have seen this treatment on this site before for LS is it ok for LP too, I am absolutely raw !!
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      The witch hazel will sting at first...but the aloe will calm it down.  What they have used for stitches for me down there after birthing a baby was pads soaked in witch hazel and held in with a sanitary pad.  It's antiseptic and healing...but will sting for a minute or two.  If you can not tolerate the witch hazel at first start with two pinches of bicarbonate of soda in 8 ounces of water in a spray bottle and spritz with that.
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    Hiya

    So sorry you are suffering so much.

    Personally I wouldn't use the dermovate for a while. (I stopped using it cos it actually irritated the skin which is very common). A lot of ladies on here use baking soda to spritz the area or put in a bath and have a soak. Sorry I don't know the proportions you should use but I'm sure one of these lovely ladies will let you know soon.

    Good luck! Xx

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      Thanks I have read about the baking soda thing and spoke to my dermatologist on my last appointment but she was very against it ! I must admit I am now very tempted as so many ladies say it helps so if anyone can tell me how much to use I will give it a try.
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      I think you have to find what works for you, which unfortunately is trial and error. For me its my diet. Im fine if I stay off sugar, dairy and gluten 90% of the time. I don't use any steriods or anything else topically. I guess we all have different reasons why we have LS so thats why different stuff helps different people.  I really hope you find what your "triggers" are soon!  XX
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      Hi again , I've just read about sufferers using baking soda I never would for the very basic reason it strips dirty pans of ground in dirt or burnt pans or oven .Ive used it to clean my oven after my mums advice , but I always use rubber gloves .Its good for oven tops and sinks that are greasy or grimy.

      My mum did start using it to clean her bath sad to say she ended up having to Dermol and special oil based creams on her skin over all her body twice daily.iD personally do with your dermatologist on this one.If in doubt put hot water in a pan add baking soda then out a knife fork or coin in it .If it gets really hot water it froths and rises like boiled milk but far more astringent

      than most surface cleaners.I know when your suffering your tempted to try out things but check the long term reaction of products or like baking soda

      if it does that to stainless steel what could it do to your private parts?

      Good luck finding relief. Becareful .and best wishes Yvonne

       

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      You want a very MILD solution if you use the bicarbonate of soda.  Two pinches at minimum in 8 ounces of water. This should be non-irritating.  Too strong...yes would be very uncomfortable.  I don't use it myself...but many on here use it to great success.
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      I think the theory underlying baking soda- Bicarbonate of  Soda -is that it changes the Ph of the area- slightly - so that thrush, that likes an acid envirorment in which to flourish, is inhibitied, but with everything moderation in its use. IF it helps do it, if not stop using it. (not forgetting the placebo effect)This is an anectdotal treatment and to my knowledge hasnt been fully researched, however  old wives tales(and remedies) have often been proved to be as good as modern methods - and often not proven at all!

      Sadly I have come across many instances of horror stories because "it worked for my mother, grandmother " etc-  hence my caution and liking of conservative properly researched  treatments

      Take care and hopefully the pain and the bruising of the area is getting better. You may find taking arnica  by mouth helpful for the bruising as i understand many surgons are advocating and prescribing arnica these days- (See what i mean about old wives tales becoming useful modern remedies?)

      good luck, Sue

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    There is an old adage..."don't rub salt in the wound" and i think baking soda has the properties of salt?  I think i would use coconut oil sparingly first.  Aloe is wonderful for taking away itching and burning but i think i would use the 100 percent liquid that comes in a big bottle at the health and vitamin store rather than the ointment with paraben on raw tissue.  I do use the ointment sparingly when needed and it does work.  What is witch hazel?

     

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      Witch hazel is an antiseptic.  However, suedm has some very good advice for nannylin.  A saline solution...scant teaspoon of salt in a pint of warm water should be about right...and spray that on until some healing has begun would probably be excellent to do in the beginning.
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    How horrid for you -did they not KNOW you had LS???  anyway i would re watch Dr G if i were you- i remember - i think that he said to use  the Dermovate following surgery as it would prevent the Koebner(??) affect- ie making the situation worse where there was scar tissue-

    I would also have a saline wash - ie the same salinity as the body hence no stinging. Think stiches after an episiotomy following a vaginal birth

    The edges of the wound- if there are any stitches should be kept as clean as possible. If you can imagine the"healing" cells trying to seal the wound floating on a sea of slight moisture knitting the sides together will have an easier task than trying to cross a dry arid patch, you will see that healing will be faster in a SLIGHTLY damp CLEAN environment- but no soaking as this could wash away the "healing" cells- sorry if i sound a tad simplistic but i am unable to convey what i would like to say without being technical and long winded. Soggy boggy wounds take MUCH longer to heal than normal tissue. The tissue on the undercarriage is similar to the tissue in the mouth - and willtake the same amount of time to heal - if not infected - about 5 days +/-

    Good luck Sue

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      Sue, nobody seems to be telling Nannylin to step up the use of Dermovate. I'm inclined to say yes, during such a major flare. But maybe you think there's a problem around the wound, stitches?
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      I am not sure how the Dermovate would affect a raw wound - hence checking with Dr Goldstein's webinar re the timing and the amount of the application- Steroids can inhibit normal healing- which wound healing is, however as it is  on an LS area I can see there would be a good case for the use of Dermovate locally for  Nanny Lin. If I were her I would be phoning the consultants secretary for further advice from the consultant, but sadly her medic seems hard to reach. Normally the best way is to phone the hospital on the day of the clinic she attended and ask to speak to the secretary who would normally speak to the consultant who would then contact her. (when there is a good team around) If one goes to the clinic often  the nurses are not in a position to talk to the consultant- but she could try....

      Sue

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      PS after 5-7 days then most certainly if the wound looks healthy and healed back to the Dermovate as she would for a flare up - in my opinion - but it is very difficult to advise without seeing and knowing the actual situation.

       

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