Malfunction of SCS

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Hello too everyone!!! Could someone plz tel me if the scs is for failed back surgeries, chronic back pain, or any other health problems. Thx n advance...Joy.... Best of health too all

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    Hi there Joy

    Yes the Neurostimulator, as it is called here in Oz, is another avenue of pain relief after others have failed. If you qualify then you have a trial period of about 8 days.  Mine was done under general anaesthesia and I stayed in overnight so that the device (I call mine “ET”, which I think is quite apt actually) can be programmed. A very thin wire is “threaded” in to your back and in to the epidural space next to your spine.  The first part is done under slight sedation and the area frozen so that you can “guide” the surgeon and tell him when your pain stops. He then knows which nerves to control.  This does not hurt one bit. After that few very short time you are put to sleep and he finishes the operation.   The wire protrudes from your lower back but is completely enclosed in dressings. It is attached to a battery pack which is  taped to your side.  This is how it was for me. The next morning a Rep from the “ET” Comoany comes in and programs it all in for you and explains how to yes it.  I completely forgot everything she told me so thank goodness I had the manual to read.  

    The only pain was in my lower back but if course they keep that under control.  

    When the trial period is over you go back to the Specialist who removed everything. I promise you I didn’t feel a thing, and I am not the bravest cookie let me tell you. 

    It is then decision time for you. I was really happy with the result so decided to go for the “real” thing.  

    As mine was being paid for by an Insurance Company (I had initially had a workplace accident) I had to wait about 6 weeks for all the paperwork to go through. 

    I am not sure whether you are in America but if you are, then it would seem that over there, Drs prefer to put “ET” in a different place to where they put them here in Australia, which is in the abdomen.  I cannot imagine having it in my backside as they do in the US  but it obviously works.  Having mine in my abdomen is unfortunately causing me a few headaches. 

    Anyway Joy, I hope this has helped you and  I will keep everything crossed for you that it all works out.  Please let us all know. 

    Regards

    Disley

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      Hi Disley!!! Thank you so much for the understanding, I've heard so many different reasons from my pain management until I could not absorb it ALL. You have given me a clearer understanding that it is for back pain that has primarily for failed back surgeries, now if I'm understanding you correctly it is for chronic back pain no matter how the pain started, and as you said I'm not the bravest cookie either, wanted to know what I was getting into they didn't explain it to me well like you just have, but pain is no fun either, haven't scheduled the procedure yet just trying to get any and all information I can yo have s clearer understanding thanks a bunch will keep you updated rather I go thru with it or not, but you sure have made me feel better thx, so happy you are doing well, Joy

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      Disley, I reread your post and saw where you said they would thread something thru your spine and that way they would be able to control the nerves thru your spine that sounds dangerous, is the scs for nerve pain also or back pain, not excited with them dealing with my nerves, have read a couple of post where paralysis have happen , call me not sure, and that will be a good name for me BUT most definitely don't want to end up paralyzed pretty sure I'll take the pain, i've also read a few post where they seem like rubber bands are squeezing their ribs, have you ever heard of this, sorry to disturb you again just trying to find out any and all information I can before I make my decision and hopefully it be the right decision thanks for putting up with me again, not getting a lot of information from the Dr's in a since I feel they really want me to do the procedure because of the money in which I'm sure you know is not cheap, once again Thank you, Joy

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      Hi Joy

      It’s fine truly. That’s what we are all here for. 

      Yes they do thread the wire from the base of your spine and up in to the epidural space.  In my case it is for nerve pain in my leg. It’s working ok for that but unfortunately I am having so much trouble with the actual site where the device is actually placed.  I have also now developed a small blister on the scar on my back.  

      I have taken some pics of my abdomen but there does not seem to be a facility to add photos on here. 

      If you have any serious doubts Joy, don’t do it.  I see my Specialist on the 21st so will sort something out. 

      Please don’t let them fob you off with anything and just remember “They work for you” so they have a duty of care to answer all your concerns. If they don’t have decent answers then they are not the right Company for you. 

      Please let us know what you decide.  

      Take care xx

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      This was one of the best, most eloquently written posts I’ve read.  Disley, I think you really could blog and help so many going through this.  I am most defeated. It’s been 9 months since perm implant and my condition has worsened. I am no longer working nor do I have insurance of any kind to have scans or replacement/removal surgery. I am very lost and have no idea what the next step should be or will be. 
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      Hiya Elle

      Thank you !

      I have been discussing your situation with my partner and he suggested that you contact SHINE LAWYERS. We have their offices here in Australia as well and they helped me so much after my accident. 

      It should not be a case of you not having the funds to pay for the treatment.  If you truly feel the “Alien” has worsened your condition then it should definitely be up to the Dr who implanted.  

      At least call them and ask for some advice. It is a free service.  If they take in your case you do NOT pay anything. They charge the person you are going up against.   It just isn’t good enough Elle, you cannot continue as you are and deserve better.  Obviously in America  your healthcare system is quite different.  We have private health insurance here but it’s optional. We also have MEDICARE which covers everyone. All our public hospital are basically free so treatment is always available.  Obviously there are also private hospitals for those wanting to pay.  The standard of our public hospitals is world class.  

      If I was having your problems Ibwoukd simply present my to an ER and hopefully they would be able to help. 

      Look, I may be quite wrong about your medical system, but it seems so many of you are without real help.  

      I do hope you call SHINE and ask for advice.  They will definitely be able to tell you one way or another. 

      Please keep me updated Elle. 

      Sue 

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      So it’s been rough.. I haven’t even been on as you know how we sometimes have to take it hour to hour when we don’t have the strength to make it day to day. Would be alright to private message or email you? Perhaps give me a little more contact info to SHINE and I will contact immediately! I can’t thank u enough❤️

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      I have a new neuro! He believes I have a spinal cord injury bc fragments were left in my back from 2 discectomy. Having Myelogram Thursday. I am so scared. I am ready to be well but I am scared. Never thought I’d hear the words “spinal cord injury.”
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      Oh Elle, that’s dreadful that it hasn’t been found before.  Boy I would be angry.  BUT, it’s excellent that it has been found and that this may be the answer to all your pain. I will be keeping everything crossed,  please keep me updated xxx. 
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    I had spinal surgery in the L4-L5-S1 region about 3 years ago.  I had simultaneous numbness in my legs, and pains in my feet.  Diagnosis was stenosis, with arthritis spurs impinging on the nerves.  The surgery succeeded in removing the numbness, but the pains in my feet are worse than ever, with the diagnosis now of peripheral neuropathy.  The same neurosurgeon who did the spinal surgery installed a Medtronic SCS trial about a year after the initial surgery.  My trial was supposed to last 3 days, but I stopped it after the second day.  The pain coming from the SCS was worse than the pains in my feet.  I tried to adjust the SCS signal, but nothing seemed to work.  I called the manufacturer's rep who is supposed to guide you in making changes after the initial setup in the operating room, but found him to be worthless.  Installation of the SCS and its removal were simple/painless. 

    Last summer, the same neurosurgeon wanted to install a new higher frequency SCS, that he felt would do better than the Medtronic SCS.  I did some searching on the web, and on this site, and came to the conclusion not to go ahead with the second SCS.  I read too many stories of folks having much different results with the permanent SCS, as compared to the experience they had during the trial.  I also read of folks having excruciating pains from the SCS after several years.  In those situations, they had to choose to remove and replace the SCS, or to remove it totally.  Also, you'll have to have the rechargeable battery replaced at some point (5-10 years), so that's another surgery to plan on, if you go the route of an SCS. 

    Being fair, I also read stories of folks who had great success with an SCS installation.  I don't know if it has any bearing on the success or lack thereof, but my peripheral neuropathy pains are intermittent, rather than having constant back pain, which so many folks have to deal with(sic).  I try to manage the pains with daily Gabapentin and Amitriptyline, but when I can't get to sleep within 30 minutes, I have to take Tramadol.  I'm not pleased with any of these medications, and have tried to wean myself off them, but go back on them after a few sleepless nights.

    ?Bottom line is to suggest you dig into this website for experiences among previous SCS patients who have similar symptoms to yours.  Because I don't have any back pain, my experience may not be indicative of what you'd achieve with an SCS.  One other word of awareness.  Because the trial SCS installation was done in New York State, I had to fill out lengthy questionnaires and be interviewed by a Psychologist.  That was necessary "to ensure that I would be OK with having a foreign instrument inserted into my body".  What a total crock!  I have 2 replacement knees, a replacement hip, and titanium plates in my neck from neck surgery that was done decades ago.  As an Engineer, I look favorably upon changes in any body parts that aren't functioning as well as they should, so inserting an SCS clearly wasn't going to be an issue for me, since I already had enough metal parts in me to set off all the alarms when I go through airport security!.  However, so that Medicare and my Medicare Supplemental insurer would pay for the trial SCS, I had to go through the waste of taxpayer money and be interviewed by the Psychologist.  To add insult to injury, when I was evaluating whether to try the second SCS, I was going to have to go through the whole same nonsense of the questionnaire and interview by the same Psychologist because it had been more than 12 months from my first SCS trial.  Fortunately not all States here in the USA have such stupid requirements as NY, so if you're in a more enlightened State, or another country, maybe you'll be spared this waste of time and money.

    ?Good luck with your decision.  I hope an SCS can give you relief.

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      Thanks Yukonjak! Talked with Dudley 66 she gave me hope, but it sounds like you didn't have much success so sorry about your situation but that is why I'm doing my best before I make a decision, I've read a few post where their scs had them feeling like rubber bands was squeezing their ribs, I'm doing my best to find pain relief not add on new pain in which several post has stated. I know everyone is different but now I'm thinking if I take meds in which I'm already doing at least I can try and wean myself off, wouldn't be so easy with an implanted six million dollar woman inside me ( lol ) got to try and find some humor with pain, I 'm finding out being in pain all the time can really become depressing and even if I go thru with it I've been told about three different companies, who says one is better than the other. I appreciate your response to my post so thankful I have to make a decision by tomorrow, wishing you the BEST with your health and life, Joy

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      Meant to have said I don't have to make a decision by tomorrow, forgive me for the bad typing, BEST of luck too all!!!

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      I just read your post more thoroughly, particularly the paragraph about the double psychiatrist appointments and I have to thank you for the gut wrenching laughter.... At least FL lets it go at just the one psych eval for all my trials and permanent placements.
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      Thank God I didn’t have to go through a psych evaluation Anne,  I would be doing the “largactil Shuffle” from a secure unit in some obscure asylum! 

      Not being condescending to anyone with issues, just my humour. 

      There was, and as far as I know, is not, any need to see a Psychiatrist in order to get “ET”........ gee they make it difficult for you don’t they? 

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