Marijuana Induced Hell (PLEASE READ/HELP)

I think for the sake of making this form a useful space for people that had suffered through tremendous misery following a marijunana induced panic attack it is important to dinstinguish what you have been through with those. 

As I understood the first episode seems a rather lucid imagination,I frankly don't know what is wrong with it(I am not talking about the contents but rather having a strong non-real visual in your mind) .And I cannot fit it into the discussion here.

The second instance seems more relevant but I hardly believe that you had a full-blown panic attack. The incident does not have the lingering aftermath adds to my suspicions about the intensity of the fear you have been through.

So, you don't think it's relevant, or...

It's probably also important just to let others know that it's not at all uncommon to have these severely negative experiences, just so that they don't think that there's something wrong with having them in the first place. All I mean is love by it. You have my word.

Yes, but only if you think you have been through the same negative experience.

After I had my marijuana-induced panic attack I kind of lost my capacity to talk, read and write like a normal person. I have ben wandering from one psychiatrist to another, I have been thinking each day and minute, "what I have done wrong "I have been confused since everyone around me was blaming my personality, (if you sincerely believe the condition is "common" then your surmise that there must be something wrong with the patient's personality). It took me one year after searching and reading and asking to finally reach to a milestone! of knowing what I have been through does not match and pre-described condition. I am firmly advocating my position now. I give you an example to clear my point on why I think your comments are not much helpful, and at the same time, I appreciated your compassionate comments to calm everyone down.

All the known diseases were ignored or unrecognized at first(obvious). A patient with cancer back at stone-age would have thought to had hurt himself by falling from higher place or has been damaged by physical causes. Later humans related diseases to have religious or other worldly causes. It was probably the discovery of microscope that led humans to be more cynical of their conditions and probe deeper to have a better and correct understanding of these which I argue was and is the most helpful approach(or discovery general scientific methodology in general).People are obviously suffering and all they get is the ignorance coming from a public that worships the “Magical Herb that cannot cause harm!” and the doctors who are unfamiliar with what they are observing. The answer I believe lies in clear and deep investigations and not in overseeing and simplify marijuana-induced panic attack.

Also panic attacks should be distinguished from one another I believe and I hope that the panic attacks are an actual family of conditions rather than all being the exact same.

i read ur request for some help, i feel compelled to to try and explain at the very least a part of ur feelings towards cannibis, ill begin by saying i have smoked it for 27 years now and as it is with everything thre is an equal and oppisite reaction to all things that have mass, or physically exist, and in this time i have learnt to be a better more tolerant person i now understand i am a biological hard drive with appendages to serve it, but socially i lack key skills, i am my brain ergo what i think is real to me and me alone, this may wont be another persons reality , e.g. ur friend fancies someone you think to b distasteful or ugly or both but vice versa for him about another woman, or art or comp games or fasion or hairstyles......etc  see my point? this is evolution, its experience with dna combined ur body evolves cos ur brain tells it to and the brain evolves through synaptic pathways being built by memorys of emotion or logic if u experience more and learn more u r the best u can b, u having this reaction is one of two things either u r biologicly too weak or ur so smart and you do not not know ,but its for good or bad its like the affects of alcohol in a small way if ur depressed already itll make it worse or u have the happiest life ever and it makes u feel so good u cant bare to stop ,normality is in the middle somewhere . if u study temperal physics u would come to except that we are molecules and so is everything else in existance we are linked from a grain of sand to a steel tower we are it thers iron on our blood thers radiation, wich is actuall harmfull in higher doses,lead silver ,nitrates (the sky) calcium salt hydrogen sulphar....etc i cuold go on til all combinations of elements are are spent and that is a huge equasion and that my friend is evoloution ...variety of all!!! life!   please reply to me i would happy to give u tips on using this unique intellect you have it may be the key to healing urself. Danny

the rest of the people replying to u on this page are not considering physics, the theory of everything!!!! im certain they want to help though

Wassup Danny Im going through the same thing of ihatweed i been stuck this for 5 months physical body sympthoms pain aswell heart rythm and spasms thats goes every where in my body after massive panic attack ever sense that day i never smoked again and im atill feeling this way i dont know its just wierd after that one day it changed how im really im always going out having fun that day me and a friend of mine smoked the same thing he was fine i was just going nuts i couls calm down it was crazy you dont know and i saw alot of dicters they say im fine its just my nerves i guess

Hey wassup rebbecca it seems like your post is intresting and you are right about not posting up and it will get better i use to read people stuff all the time and posting up because i couldnt find out what was really wrong with me i seen alot of docters and even cardiologist and i still couldnt believe nothing was wrong with me but long story short 5 months ago I was with a friend in a car smoking i did have a little stressed i had got arrested the same week for smoking aswell in a car but this day ok i was with my friend in the car on my way some where in the highway i decided to roll up a joint a couple of pulls like 5 or 6 i was having a massive panic attack like my heart was racing soo fast that i thought i was going to have aheadt attack or just droped dead me and my friend smoked from the same joint he was calm and everything i found it wierd that i was the only one going nut my heart didnt want to calm down we go out a exit and i was walking back and fourth trying to catch up to my heart rate i was scared i was shaking and my friend is like its your mind relax bro can you calm down and i couldnt relax until i through up thats the only way i calm down but its not over yet i kept waking up everyday my heart racing having alot physical sympthoms i never experinced before i was calling the abulance mostly everyday and the crazy part after that day i never smoked and it was still happening and today im still the same my heart calm down more i dont really have the heart thing but i do get shortness of breath and alot of physical pain and sympthoms i dont know why and spasms and twiches all over my body the one that worries me the most the spasm in by my heart it twiches and i think something is wrong with my heart then it changes to different parts of my body and my vision is dream like and unreal sometimes or feeling like im just gonna die any day actually today i complete 6 months like this but honestly i have gotten better then the beginning it was worst but now im already but still feel these things and pain in my chest at times left side im only 20 years old aswell male . but thats my experinces rebecca after that day i felt like it messed up my body physically and mentally probably but i also get this really bad nervous feeling in my stomach like i nervous if anything like eating greasy food fast food sometimes of being in trains and going out with friend to a club or something i use to not be this way i was always happy doing things i like to do but i dont know i do have meds but i dont take its called paxil and i was trying to control this my self but its a little hard to do because all these physical sympthoms im getting

I am glad things are working out for you Rebecca but for many just willing or exercising their problems away from their weed experience does not work. Whatever happened to one person, as in panic attacks may be very different from another who truly had something switch on or off in their brain. Just a quick story on just what can happen to someone with even one dose of a drug. A legal drug at that. My dad is 87 years old and was starting to show signs of dementia which was diagnosed as LewyBody Dementia. The same thing the actor Robin Williams had. My dad was getting forgetful his cognitive functions were slowing but he was not bad at all. He had a bad cold so my mother gave him Alleve 24 which was a very big no-no because it contained two chemicals that are found in most antihistamines that can send a person with this dementia into total chaos. Just one dose and it can be permanent. Well after that dose the very next day my dad went downhill and fast. He started hallucinating big time. Snakes in the house, bugs and animals in the house. People trying to get him and living in the house. Fish swimming in his glass of water. He never came back to where he was the day before and this has been a year now. We just have to keep him from hurting himself while he tries to get those snakes in the house! My point is that some may have just the slightest defect in some neurons or transmitters or whatever in the brain that is activated by a certain chemical. Something that may never have been activated if that person did not have that drug. My dad will keep going downhill but it did not have to be so quickly. After four years of my edible marijuana nightmare I still have problems. No way to stop those dreams. My problems are most likely different from yours because I did not know I was eating something that contained practically pure THC. I am much, much older than most on here but I was no stranger to drugs in my youth. I have lived with Hepatitis C for 40 years and am now cured but you know how one gets that virus. So like I said I know about drugs but I had not done any type of drug in over 35 years. Two bites of what turned out to be a drug laced item gave me what I call a very bad near death experience and I have suffered with a form of trauma, possibly PTSD or trauma with a small t ever since. One of the worst things it has done in the long run was kept me from doing my profession. I am an artist who could paint 45 paintings in 2 years to one who has only been able to paint 12 in four years. I have supported myself solely with my art for the past 30 years and I am pretty screwed financially now because of my slow progress. I am much better now than I was 2 years ago but I do not know if I will get back to where I was but I am hopeful. Good luck and continued progress!

Hi Jonnie the things your describing are honestly normally symptoms of anxiety. Ask yourself this have you had a heart attack or anything that you are worried about yet? I'm guessing no you haven't: I know that these symptoms can be scarey but honestly until you accept that this is anxiety you aren't going to get better. It's ok if you don't want to take medication, medication isn't for everyone a lot of people over come anxiety etc by themselves . I personally find that medication along with excersizing is helping me. Also maybe it would be good for you to get some councillong I'm currently waiting to see one myself and I've heard of lots of people that have found that helped them .

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yeahh its hard to but is the meds helping you because i dont know i was thinking because im always nervous and when i stress out it hits me harder

Yeh I defiantly think the meds are helping me I tried a few different ones that didn't agree with me but I'm on 15mg of mirtazapine and it makes me sleep like a baby . Not had any physical symptoms of anxiety and I genuinely feel like I'm getting better everyday . There's so many different meds you literally just have to try them if they don't work for you or they make you feel funny then you can try something else . There not going to kill you x

yeah your right im going to try because i think my nerves and anxiety has to be on rest

Hi I'm sorry to hear about your dad and also your own issues I understand that some people don't manage to overcome this as fast as me . I just wanted people out there to realise that not everyone will be stuck with this for years. I was severely suicidle with my symptoms and after reading people's comments on this forum I was ready to end it all. Until a light switched on. Yes you may have delt with this a lot longer but people who could potentially get better are not getting better because they are reading horror story's about chemical switches in people's brains etc when this doesn't have to be what's happening to everyone. Again I am sorry about you and your dad but I don't want people's unsuccessful story's to prevent people that could get better from getting better .

I was on a low dose of Sertraline in the beginning which really helped take the edge off of intrusive thoughts without feeling like you were on something. They also gave me clonazapem (klonopin) which is suppose to help with anxiety but I used it to help me sleep at night as it made me very sleepy if taken during the day. I have not been on the Sertraline for a couple of years now and only take the clonazapem on the rare occasion if I cannot sleep. Melatonin works great if I need sleep and thoughts are keeping me up. You would probably not need the melatonin because at your age your body produces a good amount. When you get older it does not produce it very well. Sertraline is Zoloft but like I said a very low dose was more effective for myself.

 

I don’t know if you still follow this discussion but I am going thru the same things as everyone else. Not as bad but it’s been almost 6 weeks of anxiety, insomnia, depression and I was getting better but I feel like I’ve hit a plateau. I haven’t gone on any meds yet and I keep coming back to this forum to see if there’s anyone that can tell me what worked for them. Everyone else seems to be searching the same way I am. I’ve never dealt with anxiety or depression before and I’ve always been able to sleep but it’s like my brain won’t shut off. I’d love to hear your feedback. Thanks. 

After my experience I was having constant panic attacks and extreme anxiety for about 6 weeks too - what helped was:

- Talked to a doctor and got a 2 weeks prescription for Clonazepam and quit drinking while I was taking it. I used it when I felt something coming on and it would calm me immediately

- Realized when I did feel a panic attack coming on when I'd feel like my throat was closing up and converted my feelings of "I'm going to die" to "this is all in my head, this is more annoying than scary, stop it"

- Went from drinking 8 cups of coffee a day to 2 max. This may have been the biggest one. I was fine doing this before, but after my bad weed experience, I'm much more sensitive to anxiety and so cutting back on the coffee made a HUGE permanent difference.

I've touched weed a few times since, doing the bare minimum, and never edibles, and I've been fine since.

And I still got the panic attacks for about 6-8 months afterwards, it was just that I got less and less and had a different mindset that made them totally bearable until I just accepted that I was getting them but that they were getting better - they didn't worry me anymore - and 1 yearish later they were totally gone and I haven't had once since. Basically 1 bad trip just seriously f****d me for a year and I had to learn a lot about anxiety and how to deal with it and come to terms with the fact that my weed tolerance would be nearly 0 from now on. It gets better.

And however much caffeine you consume a day - experiential with at least halving it. Maybe that's already obvious for you or something you did, but I seriously underestimated how much caffeine was affecting me after my first attack. Cutting back coffee was literally the best thing I've ever done for myself.