Medical marihuana
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i was wondering whether anyone has been knows if marihuana is of any help in reducing the pain of pmr?
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Posted , 15 users are following.
i was wondering whether anyone has been knows if marihuana is of any help in reducing the pain of pmr?
0 likes, 87 replies
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jeannae68307 ricky23486
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linda17563 jeannae68307
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jeannae68307 linda17563
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Yep, I'm waiting for when it is legal and in roll on form.
maid_mariane ricky23486
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I got moderated don't know why.
I've been on a perscription for it for over 1 yr. I use it for pain and sleep. I don't use it daily and it's no worse than a couple glasses of wine.
My Dr would much prefer you on it than drugs like percocets or oxicontin. My father aftrr his accident at age 80 used it if alive today he would be the age of my mom 91. So for those of you stop beling so stuffy. It's a herb.
I'm fortunate that medically it's legal in Canada.
hilary_76724 maid_mariane
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Lucky you. Unfortunately it's not in the U.K. 😩 I do find a couple of glasses of wine helps to relax the muscles but I guess that's far worse health wise.
EileenH hilary_76724
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As it I've said further down - it is for some things.
It is available here where I live - I couldn't afford it though! The army are looking at setting up guarded plantations to reduce the costs (honestly) - at present it is sourced from the Netherlands.
ricky23486 maid_mariane
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it is medically legal here too but is only prescribed for people who have terminal illness or who have survived traumatic injuries and are coping with severe chronic pain. I don't know how they gauge the pain of pmr but I have never heard mention of it from any of my own physicians .
ricky23486 hilary_76724
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I find that wine and prednisone don't go so well together....I turn bright red in the face...and red is not my colour!
ricky23486 EileenH
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EileenH ricky23486
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Anhaga ricky23486
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Emis_Moderator ricky23486
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Hi all,
To clarify - discussions about this have been deleted in the past because they turn into a "pro marijuana" debate or a discussion criticising conventional medicines which I see is already happening. They also attract spammers trying to sell or promote products. If the discussion is kept to general talk about medical MJ benefits or otherwise there is no problem. I have already had to remove a suppliers name from the thread and will remove off topic comments that are irrelevant.
Regards,
Alan
maid_mariane Emis_Moderator
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Mj has for several people like myself medical benefits that is why it was nedically perscribed.
For me it has improved my sleep greatly and has medical benifits with my pain. Although prednisone is my major pain reliever mj has greatly improved my sleep as well as mood.
I think one foolish if having severe problems not to look at alternatives that could possibly work in partnership with conventional medicine.
There are many types of mj available to me in Canada but they like regular medicine target certain problems.
I don't think anyone here is out to sell it or be more pro than when we discuss new medications like LDN or were its being tested. Let people ask the questions and make up there own minds.
Anhaga ricky23486
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Interesting. All my comments were deleted although we were told that brand names and promotion had been deleted. I am not even aware of any brand names connected with the substance under discussion so it can't have been that. I have never used it but I have heard that the element of the substance under discussion which has no psychotropic component is very good in combatting inflammation. It is now used to treat such conditions as intractable epilepsy in children. I would like to be able to try it myself so that perhaps I will be able to discontinue prednisone, but do not want to use the internet to get it, I am waiting for the legal clinics to open, probably in 2018.
maid_mariane Anhaga
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I to got monitored and didn't mention brands strains which are a multitude that do different things.
I would love to talk openly about the strains that work for me in order to help possibly others.
As i said I'm fortunate that it's legal here medically.
hilary_76724 maid_mariane
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EileenH hilary_76724
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It IS available for MS in the UK.
Google medical m-word nhs uk and you'll get several links.
hilary_76724 EileenH
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Obviously her GP is not on the ball then or she hasn't mentioned it believing it was a banned substance. I will tell her. She will be delighted 😀
EileenH hilary_76724
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Now why doesn't your first comment surprise me...
I suspect it may need some hoops to be jumped through - but it can be got.
ricky23486 Anhaga
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Anhaga ricky23486
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I would feel more comfortable all around if I was able to have a face to face conversation with the person selling it in a licensed establishment. On the other hand I think it's ridiculous having to wait for this particular product to be readily available. I suppose if it's effective enough to treat MS and epilepsy they do need to keep tabs on it, control dosages and such, but surely my local pharmacy, or for that matter organic foods store which carries a lot of supplements, some of questionable value, could sell it? Human beings, including lawmakers and regulators, are funny.
dan38655 Anhaga
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I'm guessing that it takes a lot of testing to get a drug approved, and that maybe the level of profit from the more-natural type of cures perhaps can't justify the cost of testing. So even if effective it mighttake longer to get to market.
Here in California there is negligible enforcement unless one manufactures, sells or uses in public or whie driving. I tested it once in smoked form for my CRPS condition following a "broken" wrist injury, and for which I had been prescribed Lyrica (which I never took), but it didn't really help me with the CRPS.
I haven't tried it for pmr but I would be surprised if it didn't help with my frequent waking at night. I have by now gotten used to waking 4-6 times every night!
linda17563 hilary_76724
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EileenH dan38655
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The testing and monitoring procedures for medications are indeed VERY expensive - multi-millions of dollars. And it isn't JUST the testing - it is all the manufacturing and production processes which must also be carried out under strict controls that cost as well.
maid_mariane dan38655
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I take it mainly for sleep and it is great that way. Certain strains and much better for sleep than others.
You should try it.
ricky23486 dan38655
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I, too,don't understand why I now wake up so many times during the night....is it the 01:30 dose of prednisone? Is it the pmr? It's exhausting!
ricky23486 maid_mariane
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ricky23486 Anhaga
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maid_mariane ricky23486
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Hi Ricky
It helps keep me asleep and some strains also make you very sleepy.
Just read a study on Facebook that CBD in MJ helps bone density. I tried to copy it to post but it wouldn't let me.
maid_mariane ricky23486
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In Canada i speak directly with the manufacturer/distributor and discuss my issues and they recommend. I've tried several varieties within the strain and worked out which one i like best.
Anhaga ricky23486
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Umm, I don't think that would be very convenient, Ricky, I live in Canada. I've waited so long I don't mind waiting one more year for the legal clinics to be open. There are clinics already but they keep getting into trouble because they aren't legal yet.
Anhaga
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maid_mariane Anhaga
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Hi guys
Just so you understand I'm on medical MJ so i carry a medical card and speak to an authorized legal dealer in Canada that fills perscriptions. My Dr fills the Perscription online.
maid_mariane
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Right now I'm researching CBD which comes from MJ and promotes bone growth.
dan38655 ricky23486
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I don't mind too much waking every hour or two, since it seems that I usually need to use the bathroom and/or to jostle my digestive system to relieve any distension with a little walking around so as to return to resting comfortably.
The circadian cycles are about an hour apart, or a little less, so it's possible to wake when the cycle has completed and than get right back to sleep, on to the next cycle.
I seem to retain water until after I go to bed at night, something about eating too late in the day it seems or too much salt and fiber perhaps.
Anhaga maid_mariane
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I am aware of that, and in my case I just felt I shouldn't have to jump through all those hoops for something which is, actually, legal, but just impossible to buy locally. I do know that your PMR journey has been much more difficult than mine, and I honestly can say that had I experienced similar problems with tapering etc I would have been much more proactive about getting my elusive oil! What I hope for is that by the time I'm safely off pred this substance will be more easily available and will help me stay symptom free, should I need something like it. Just like h---seed oil helped keep my skin free of itchy red blotches after the hydrocortisone ointment had cleared up the symptoms!
Anhaga maid_mariane
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That's the stuff I want.. So it helps bones too? Mmmmm....
maid_mariane Anhaga
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I just make a phone call since its a perscription and it is shipped to my home in days. It actually come from i believe your neck of the woods in British Columbia.
So no need to find it your a registered patient and they have a website but i prefer to talk to them. I did tonight after i read the article on CBD to see if they carried it.
I'm fortunate that my GP recommend it.
You make me laugh which is good
Anhaga maid_mariane
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Wrong coast! I find people do find me humorous, not sure why. Perhaps it's my extreme earnestness!
ricky23486 maid_mariane
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ricky23486 Anhaga
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ricky23486 Anhaga
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i've been doing some checking and find that although it is legally produced and distributed locally I can only buy it with a doctor's prescription......and I am pretty sure i won't qualify for one....... But I will pursue
EileenH ricky23486
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maid_mariane ricky23486
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ricky23486 maid_mariane
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GP can't prescribe med. m. Only a specialist and after that all the paperwork and the medical history has to be submitted to the Ministry of Health for their approval which takes up to 3 months. Iif they approve the application, a licence is issued to the patient who can then take it to an authorized laboratory to receive the medication. I understand and respect the need for caution..... but don't think I will qualify for a licence simply because the pain is controllable with prednisone - if I take enough of it.....but I will bring the subject up at my next rheum appointment.
Anhaga maid_mariane
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I wonder why you were allowed to post about this substance and I wasn't.
maid_mariane Anhaga
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Don't know what you said but you may have mentioned a name possibly
Anhaga maid_mariane
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No more than you. Sigh. Sometimes i feel picked on. I'm not a bad person. I don't promote questionable remedies. I do my research and because of my training I know how to judge websites and weed out the rubbish. Not being able to see the deleted post is so unhelpful to me because I have absolutely no idea what I said wrong this time. I certainly didn't post a brand name because I don't know any, and I know better than to do that anyway. Double sigh.
maid_mariane Anhaga
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What kills me is that we can mention other medications that are not yet legal or available in other countries and speek openly about the drug, what it does etc and yet when it come to this topic we are heavily monitored.
As i said i would love to post some research that just came out on it yet can't or if someone would luke to know what strain to look for i could help them but can't.
I'm not peddling just giving info.
I hear you.
ricky23486 Anhaga
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EileenH maid_mariane
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There has been some really interesting stuff coming out recently - with regard to Alzheimers and bone density too. I really would love to know if the oil capsules could be used as a steroid and bisphosphonate sparer!
Anhaga ricky23486
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ricky23486 EileenH
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maid_mariane EileenH
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I will do. As soon as i get back home, I'm away for a couple of days but i will do.