Menopausal Frozen Shoulder

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Any ladies with frozen shoulder who are peri menopausal/menopausal and not on HRT should have a serious chat with a (preferably female) GP.

I suffered for ages (two male GP's dismissed the idea of it being hormonal) before being diagnosed with menopausal adhesive capsulitis by a Nurse Practitioner who researched the subject for her thesis. This is also sometimes known as menopausal tendonitis/arthritis. After a month of being on conjugated estrogen (Prempak C) it is like someone has 'oiled' my shoulder. I felt like I had completely seized up and my bicep and shoulder muscle were like concrete. I am now able to do gentle exercises to free the adhesion, and can now lift my arm (impossible for months) to wash and dry my hair/shave under arms etc. Estrogen is the WD40 of the body, and without it, in some women the soft connective tissue goes hard and brittle. Not all women suffer from joint/connective tissue problems in menopause,. but interesting it is usually the ladies who were a bit smug, because they got got to 50/55 ish with no real symptoms or hot flushes - then bam, being hit like a ton of bricks with frozen shoulder. I also had stiffness and pain in the other shoulder, other large joints, elbows and fingers. Mornings were terrible, it could take up to ten minutes to actually get OUT of bed, and sleep? Forget it, being woken with shoulder pain every half an hour.

HRT is not for everyone, but AC was ruining my life. Given that the prognosis for recovery can be up to seven years ...I decided the risk was worth it.

i would never EVER have thought that simple 'hormones' could cause so much pain and change me from being a fairly fit 50 year old into a crippled 90 year old.

Google menopausal frozen shoulder/menopausal tendonitis/arthritis and go and see your GP ladies!!

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    It took me  a year and a half to actually get a diagnosis of my shoukder pain and had to get a second opinion after bring told nothing they could do it ended up being tendonpathy and arthritis I eventually had a steroid injection after many months  suffering but did help you can have up to three a year
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    I am 50 years old and had shoulder surgery 2 months ago. I was diagnosed with fs 6 weeks post op. I think I will look into hrt!
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    hi not sure whats wrong but if i hang washing out and then fold the washing my shoulders and hands hurt really bad it aches then it goes away it seems more painful if i am peeling potatoes or other veg fruit hurts my hands and washing up too i have to stop half way though and sit down rubbbing my hands together what do you think it is please 
    • Posted

      Hi Wendy,

      is hard to know without having more details of your age and general health. Would be better if you consult a medical doctor.

      I would assume some sort of arthritis, tendonitis, etc..

      Sorry I hope you find the answer.

      Judith

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    Lesley you may have just solved the mystery i have with my shoulder. What you say about ladies with no issues etc with menopause and hot flushes etc and now bam,.my shoulder mysteriously started becoming painful and recently, some days prevents me doing normal chores and showering etc. i am so happy to read your post and will now consult my doctor and explain.

     

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    Hi Lesley andmy fellow FS sufferers.

    My frozen shoulder started in Jan this year and within 2 months I probably only had 50% range from my other shoulder.  Until recently the pain was terrible but it has started to relax on that issue but my range still has not improved despite several sessions with a Physio Therapist and a cortisone injection.  Today I went to see a second Orthopedic surgeon that has suggested I have a shoulder arthroscopy.  I know I'm preaching to fellow sufferers who already know the procedure but I would like some advise.

    im 47, still have my periods but not sure if I'm menopausal yet.  I live in a very hot humid all year round country so it's hard to tell if I'm having a hot flush due to anything other than the weather.

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    Sorry I hadn't finished with my reply.

    I have noticed my general body temperature has increased but other than that, being a little grumpier with a frozen shoulder, I have no other symptoms. 

    Please woudk you advise me if I should be taking HRT at this point to help with my frozen shoulder ?  Aged if so what are the side effects ?

    Im sure my husband thinks I'm a wimp about the pain I complain about from my shoulder but I'm sure he will be close to dying if he ever gets one !

    Thanks

    Andrea

     

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    Andrea, I have not posted to this site in some time, but I just wanted to encourage you that this miserable condition does get better with time.   The pain can't be understood by anyone that hasn't had it.   I ended up with frozen shoulder in both shoulders.  The second was not as bad.   First started in spring of 2013, second a few months later.   It took about a year and I would say I am 90% better.   I don't know if this is as good as it will get, but I will take this.   I am convinced that therapy and corisone make no difference with recovery.  I felt therapy made matters worse.    I was 48 when it all started.   It will heal!   Just take patience and pain tolerance.    
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    Hi Leslie,

    Nice to heard from you. I just have one question that many of us would like to know..

    I understand your frozen shouldera are recover by now. Does all the symptoms of menopausal temdonitis desapair at the same time.

    I question this because beside my frozen hip, seems like im dealing with other minor but still bothersome problems of menopausal tendonitis.Will this discomfort disappear after menopause or after my frozen hip get resolve or the symptoms continue and slowely fade away, it will ever disappear completly?

    I just dont want these tendonitis killing. me after I finish dealing also with my frozen hip.

    Thanks a lot for your attention to this question seems like you are perfectly fine now.

    Thanks a lott and all the best.

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    Hello Lesley,thanks for your advice.i'm 54 years old and have had the horror of having a frozen right shoulder. Been 2 months now of sleepless nights....(by the way its amazing how the human body can still functon on huge sleep loss)

    Hard for people to understand the pain! will look into the HRT,but with cancer in my family not sure if the doc will be keen.

    Just wondering how you are doing now?

    Hope life is painfree and back to normal.

    God bless

    from Kath

     

  • Posted

    By the way my heart goes out to all of YOU who are going through this....keep going and may you all recover speedily from this horrible condition. 
  • Posted

    Oh this is so interesting, the hormonal thing!  I had a hysterectomy at age 45.  Never had a hot flash, was like I went right into post/menopausal.  No need for harmone replacement.  At age 62 I got my first frozen shoulder which was from an injury.  Here I am at 65 with frozen shoulder in other arm.  I heard from an accupuncturist that we have to keep our shoulder lubricated and she recommended magnesium.  This all makes sense, but why did it take till my 60's???, if it is hormomal.
    • Posted

      Hi.

      Because it is not ... just hormonal. It is also our bones/joints health and many other factors as well. I had a hysterectomy at 42 and immediately after ... got painful frozen shoulders and elbows. I posted my experience a little down below your post. I have never heard of frozen shoulders/joints ever! My grandma and mom both lived and had menopause and experienced many of its side effects, but never talked about frozen shoulders.

      On hindsight, I have heard of painful joints from some other older menopausal women that I knew, but never too painful to the point of disabling. From my research online...very little info is out there... it took me a while to find this term "frozen shoulder" or joints and only when I came to this site.

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      Hi mema, my case is exactly like yours except I had my complete hysterectomy a age 34 (I am now 63) and my two frozen shoulders occurred 11 months apart.  I am now 11 months in on the left and 2 months in on the right, which is still in the incredibly painful freezing stage. The left is doing much better, much less pain and some improved ROM. 

      How are you doing now?  Do you take HRT?  I am using some natural creams, have been more consistent with them since the FS.  I do take magnesium regularly.  I'd love to hear how you have recovered.

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    I'm on my fourth frozen shoulder. The 1st I suffered through for months thinking it was a torn rotator cuff injury & went to the Orthopaedic Surgeon Dr. (after the painful stage was almost finished) but only received a cortozone injection, which relieved my pain & allowed greater movement for a few days only. It went away after about 1 year, but then I was still lifting weights as soon as the pain lessened enough for me to tolerate it. My OB/GYN (a woman my age) also suffered a frozen shoulder & we discussed the misery at my appt. - it came up when she wanted me to place both my arms straight up over my head for the breast exam). The 2nd occurred after a lugged a huge bag of trash and had to swing it up over my shoulders to get it into the community trash bin. It was so painful that I was taking Ibuprofin for a long time but I suffered from protracted migraines during periomenopause for about ten yrs, so I was already used to relying on pain meds for relief. I never went to the Ortho for that FS & once again I thought I had a rotator cuff injury. A fall off the treadmill that wrenched both arms over my head resulted in excruciating pain in my bad shoulder, a loud cracking, and my adhesions were apparently broken. When the 3nd frozen shoulder happened, I went straight away to the Ortho, who had me go to physical therapy. I took 800 mg of ibuprofen 2 hrs before the appt. & felt sick to my stomach anyway from the pain I experienced. I resorted to using the focus & breathing exercises from labor to get through the sessions where the therapist bent my arm in numerous positions in an attempt to break the adhesions manually. During the 6th session I thought I had a stroke since my ears began burning & face and both were sunburned red - for no reason. I felt unwell, stopped the session and just rested until I could leave. I can't believe that the Dr.s have patients endure such pain during physical therapy. I heard others screaming & shouting & for my first visit I was laid out in the middle of the exercise room. It was horrific. I did research and discovered that there was an effective treatment for Dupuytren's contracture (my grandfather suffered from this) and it was in end Stage 4 trials for treatment of the adhesions in frozen shoulder. Collagenase injections (collagenase clostridium histolyticum) (Xiaflex, Auxilium Pharmaceuticals, Inc., Malvern, Pa.) are used for Dupuytren's & it is similar to frozen shoulder in that there are bands of scar tissue that need to be broken/dissolved/released. I am awaiting its use for frozen shoulder by my Ortho Dr. 

    • Posted

      I will mention this Collagenase to my doctor next visit. Thanks a lot for the info. I hope you get better soon. Please let us know if this product worked for you.

      I'm totally off with physio, maybe is why Im not getting any better, but I definitly can not cope with the terrible pain during and after physio. Im already living in pain just to think to add extra pain give me the chills. 

      I don't know how people can do it. I really don't know. I also understand is different levels of adhesive capsuitis, for some may be more painful and last longer (I think I'm one of them) . I just hope this will pass I'm already 2 years into and I dont see a big improvement. 

      Maybe this is the answer at what I was looking for.

      Once again thank you very much for this info, is very precious for all fellow sufferers.

      I really wish you a fast and easy recovery.

      Blessings

    • Posted

      Hi devon, did you ever have that procedure done?  How are you now all of these many years later?

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