Mirtazapine Facebook Group
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Can someone who runs the nice Facebook mirt group please let me know what it is called. I used to be a member 2 years ago but left Facebook. I wanted to try and taper off mirr again after an unsuccessful try 2 years ago that triggered anxiety that Ive just come through but i want off this drug as its been almost 7 years i have taken it and its caused my health to deteriorate badly and my mental state. I know people may say but look how bad your anxiety went when you slowly tappered and yea that is true it got worse but i think that was purely withdrawal and that it was my underlying anxiety state coming through again because honestly my anxiety was never as bad as it has been these 2 years after i tried to withdraw and now i have depression too so i want off as it isn't helping wither condition.
I was on 15mg. i got down to 11.5 when the anixety hit hard with severe panic attacks that led to 12 months of horrendous anxiety and panic. That was all of 2018. I am now in a bit of a better place hut my anxiety has never gone down to where it was prior to withdrawal. but i no longer have 12 hour panic attacks, every single day like i had in 2018. Now it is more like general anxiety every day. Anyway, I want to try again even slower. I was withdrawing by 0.5mg every 2-3 weeks so i plan to go slower. I went back up to 13.7 by mid 2018 to see if it helped from the 11.5 I got down to, doing 0.25mg increases that year and i have stayed on that dose since.
I would love to join that group again if anyone can point me in their direction please.
Thank you
Julie
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ellie88719 julie33695
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HI JULIE,
SORRY TO HEAR THINGS HAVE BEEN SO TOUGH FOR YOU. JUST KEEP FOCUSING ON ONE DAY OR EVEN ONE HOUR AT A TIME . I'M NEARLY 70 AND HAVE HAD TOUGH TIMES TOO, INCLUDING MY OWN HEALTH PROBLEMS AND MY LOVELY DAUGHTER'S MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. YOU'VE HAD SOME GOOD ADVICE ON HERE, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ITS WORTH TRYING A DIFFERENT DIET AS CERTAIN FOOD ARE RECOMMENDED TO HELP WITH ANXIETY. ANYWAY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED JUST CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW.
WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST - YOU CAN BEAT THIS!!!
(SORRY LINK NOT PASTING, WILL SEND SEPARATELY!)
ellie88719
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Still can't post that link - I'm obviously doing something wrong!
Just check out www.nhs.uk>mental health
They suggest foods that might help. Anyway its all healthy stuff so can't do anything but good.
julie33695 ellie88719
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Thank you so much Ellie. I shall have a read of that. Thank you for your kindness.
joan30284 julie33695
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I just started Remeron last night.Could I get some feed back from anyone who has had a good result from this medicine.My Phsyciatrist has tried me on several since they stopped manufacturing Immipramine.I dont want to have the bad withdrawls in the future if this isnt a good drug to stay on.Thank you.
joan30284 julie33695
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Julie can you tell me what this drug has done to your health.? I just started last night on 15mg.My psyciatrist has tried several antidepressants for me with nit much luck and bad side effects.I agree to slowly taper off this medicine since you have been on this for a while.Take it one day at a time.I understand panic attacks so well.Wishing you well.
joan30284 julie33695
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Julie can you tell me what this drug has done to your health.? I just started last night on 15mg.My psyciatrist has tried several antidepressants for me with nit much luck and bad side effects.I agree to slowly taper off this medicine since you have been on this for a while.Take it one day at a time.I understand panic attacks so well.Wishing you well.
Sykiatrylies joan30284
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I tried it several years ago, because I had Horrible insomnia. It did help me sleep. Very little side effects, for me. Only one side effect. With sex, the drug made almost impossible to climax. I am a Male, so I did not like that. I eventually weened off very very very slowly.
Everyone is different, but Mirtazepine did help me sleep a little more, and deeper. I had horrendous insomnia. Many , many, many many nights without sleep. good luck
keep people informed because many doctors do not.
julie33695 joan30284
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Hi Joan
Mirt helped me a lot iniitially. I suffered an attack, by my brother which led to severe anxiety, insomnia, unable to eat or leave my home. I started this drug at 7.5mg for about 7 'months before i increased to 15mg. It worked and helped me sleep, eat and get out a bit each day. I needed to gain weight as i had always been underweight. I went from 6 stone to 9 stone which was a huge shock but ive since lost half a stone so feel a bit happier. I an only 5ft tall.
A few months into taking mirt i gaijed the weight, and i felt so tired all the te. Doing basic chores at home was too much. Just cleaning my bathroom Id feel hot and dizzy. The fatigue got worse and worse and I found out i had an underactive thyroid, i never had any health issues prior. Then i was later diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome and as a result i have become housebound again these last 2 years.
Also after a few months on the 7.5 i developed weird thoughts. What if i ended my life thoughts that causers me huge panic attacks as i wasnt suicidal. So my GP blamed anxiety and increased me to 15mg, Once on that dose they got worse and i had for 18 months thoughts of what if i hurt my darling children who i adored. Those thoughts destroyed me as i am thhe modt loving mother. Worst 2 years and my GP of course blamed anxiety. He said meds couldnt cause the thoughts, so i stayed on them. Then the hwalth issues started to hit so my focus went to that and i developed a huge phobia of going outside, severe social anxiety to the point i havent seen anyone other than my own little family in 2 years, really strange fears.
I still have intrusive thoughts but thank god they lived away from ky children and knto my health. Now i want off because i was jot even this anxious when i first went on them and i had no physical health issues. I blame this drug for so much. I just hope i havent caused CFs and anxiety forever taking these.
This is just my experience, it does not mean it will happen to you at all. Many find this drug helpful.
Sykiatrylies julie33695
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Julie.
Everyone's system is different. My story is beyond hell. Many doctors, 25 years
ago put me on Xanax for anxiety and panic. Xanax is EXTREMELY addictive. I did
not know this, and if i did , I never would have taken one pill. ! This physical brain
dependence, ruined me. It led to a cascade of drugs, and i had the worse case of
insomnia in the world. I had rarely had insomnia before in my entire life.This led to a horrible, awful, diabolical doctor prescribing Thorazine, which is VERY TOXIC.
I BECAME A TOTAL ZOMBIE. NOT ABLE TO TALK, NOR WALK, AND DEVELOPED PARKINSONS !!!
Six months later, a new doctor told me throw out the Thorazine !! It is TOXIC !
I eventually was put on Dalmane ( Fluazapam , for 5 weeks ).. and Prozac, and i was
sleeping some.. a little.
Because i was so sleepless a great neurologist prescribed Mirtazepine about 20 years
ago. It did help me sleep. It was very useful for me. I needed sleep. Many psychiatric drugs affect sleep,,, either too much or drastic insomnia.I remained on 15 mg of
Mirtazepine for about 1.5-2 years. The only side effect which really bothered me is
i could not reach orgasm. When i began dating, this was very troublesome for me and
my girlfriend. So i gradually weened off in a period of about 3 months. My sex life improved greatly, but insomnia returned, but not quite as bad. I was also taking
Klonopin for sleep. It also is EXTREMELY addictive. But i had to sleep. For me
Mirtazepine helped me sleep. Usually it is sedating, as many have said. It does have
some side effects. Maybe someday doctors will either say talking therapy is best,
or they will find certain drugs that help people, WITHOUT severe side effects...
We can only hope... The best is communication between patients, because often
doctors are wrong. They are highly influenced by "Big Pharma." I should have never
taken one pill of Xanax. It started 25 years of agony. I went beyond hell.
TRUTHFULLY
joan30284 Sykiatrylies
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Hi Thank you for your reply.I have insomnia also and just started on Remeron a week ago.It does help me sleep well only to feel groggy in the morning. I am worried abiut the weight gain since I am only 4 ft 11.I am not sure I will take the chance of feeling the side effects I have read about.I know all antidepressants have side effects so I cant hope to find the one tablet without some draw backs.Thank you for this info. ......Best Wishes.
joan30284 julie33695
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I understand your feeling a bit of dissiness....I am having this also.If this drug has brought your health down I am not sure I want to take this long enough to have those awful withdrawls if I stay on this for a longer period of time.I know their are other antidepressants that ciuld help you.Its just finding the right one for you.I have been stuck in the house for a month from a sinus infection and cant imagine how you must feel being in doors for 2 yrs.Try not to give up on telling your doctor this medicine is not working for you.Sometimes they have to be told several times to listen to us.I think they want to be right with their decision. Take care.xx
Sykiatrylies joan30284
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i did not gain weight.. But i am male. It may make a difference.
It helped me get needed sleep.. I had horrible insomnia from other
psyche meds.. Awful.. Remeron did help the sleep... only side effect
for me was sexual problems, which girlfriends and i did not like..
i eventually weened slowly, slowly off after about 1-2 years taking
it... Anyone must ween really slow off these drugs.. Some experts
say reduce 10% each month...
insomnia is horrible... in the beginning it was due to worry and anxiety..
after that it was more drug induced insomnia.. REbound insomnia..
Doctors must start thinking about rebound.. It affects 99.9%
joan30284 Sykiatrylies
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I think it does cause women to gain weight more than men.Not being able to sleep well make you feel awful.I am not sure if I really need to be on this medicine just to be able to sleep.My depression isnt as bad as it was thank goidness.I think I will take a half tonight and see if I can sleep with less amount of this medicine.My shrink did tell me this does cause weight gain but not the figgy feeling until noon.I wish I didnt have the need to be on anything.Thank you fir your feed back .... This site is very heloful with what to expect while on Remeton.
joan30284 julie33695
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Hi Julie,Thank you for replying to me.Bless you....You have had a terrible reaction to this drug.So much trauma in your life and now health issues.Sounds you may have PTSD also from so much going on in your life.I was on Immipramine for PTSD for years until it can cause heart issues.I have only been on 15mg for a week and not sure what to expect out of this medicine.I am going to try it for another couple of weeks and see how I feel.I am not sure your doctor is cirrect about the angziety causing you to have these awful thoughts.I think it is known some antidepressants can cause strange thoughts and weight gain.I am 4ft 11 in and dont want to put on to much weight.I cant imagine not able to leave your house.......Did this just start when you were taking the Remeron?....I have read good reviews and some not so good reviews about this drug.Maybe you could get a second opinion and see if another antidepressant would work for you.I am going to drop down to 7.5 mg next week and see if the drowsy mornings will let up.I dont want to feel lathargic all morning.I am also on Celexa which I havent had any bad sude effects.I hope you can find a good medicine that will help you with your angziety.Best wishes and thank you for your input on your experience with this drug.Xx
julie33695 joan30284
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Yes,I was told in therapy a few years ago i had ptsd which causes me chronic anxiety. I had a fairly turbulant childhood with an alcoholic father, mentally unwell mum, abusive behaviour from my parents fighting eachother infront of us, mentally unwell brother and i was the oldest of 4 and had to help my mum bring them up, attacked later in life by my brother, lost my nan (who was my safe place all my childhood) 3 months before the attack,, my mum and sisters took sides with my brother as i refused to forgive him as he attacked my husband a year before that infront of our children (he also abused his own kids) so cut me off, then chronic anxiety, panic agoraphobia that was at first mild after the attack but then led to severe since my health issues began 2 years ago, and depression this last 2 years too and chronic fatigue syndrome health issues. Plus all the guilt i feel as a mum and wife for being unwell now and housebound. I was fine until I had issues with extended family in 2012, just mild anxiety all my life prior to that.
I do worry i am stuck with ptsd /anxiety forever as no therapy helped, it triggered me more discussing my past. Daily i deal with moderate general anxiety, mild/moderate depression, severe social anxiety and i cant get out now due to my fatigue and anxiety issues. but i have a wonderful husband and 3 amazing kids. Theyre 17, 15 and 14. I iust feel so guilty ivforced myself to still do days out, holidays, meals, cinema trips et cetera but the last two years I can’t force myself to go out and do these things due to the chronic fatigue but also my anxiety has become more chronic since my health issue I've let them down because prior to these 2 years i Forced myself to still do days out, holidays, meals, cinema trips etc but the last two years I can’t force myself to go out and do these things due to the chronic fatigue but also my anxiety has become more chronic since my health issues.
Yea, i was 6 stone all my life until i was 35, then once on mirt i gained a much needed 3 stone. Stress with my abusive extended family always caused me weight loss and i rarely ate. I love food now haha Life is no longer full of atress and fear other than my own brain being anxious 24/7..
Sorry this got long x