Mirtazapine withdrawal and brain zaps

Sorry to jump I but I'm going thru he'll too where do you get the magnesium is it tablet form xx

Hi timo

Thanks for the tips , I take magnesium and omega but I’ll give the smoothies a go , I’d do anything to feel better, maybe it’s just gonna take time 😩

Do a search for Remag.  This is liquid magnesium.  I use this and it is great, better than capsules/tablets.

Hi Karen 

No it seems so many people struggle this bad to get off Mirtazapine, it’s evil isn’t it.

How long have you been Mirtazapine free? Do you cry a lot and do you get the brain zaps that make you feel sick ?

I have morning nausea really bad and have started drinking ginger tea which actually does seem to help.

This can’t go on forever, I couldn’t cope , I’ve had some stupid thoughts at times that I just can’t take it anymore but will keep pushing on 

Just take it day by day.  That's all you can do.  Realize this too shall pass. On Mirtazapine, I experienced the morning nausea, insomnia, racing heart upon waking, brain/body zaps, twitches, hypnic jerks, restless legs, hand feeling like it is detached from your body, in a daze all day, unable to do anything but hang out in a recliner all day surfing the internet.  After about a week you should start to normalize.  Stay strong.

Omg the similarities are so true between me and you I had some scary thoughts and that frightened the life out me I've never been so scared in my life. I do get wee like electrical shots in my head too sometimes so that's probably the zaps your talking about x

Yes cry a lot and been on them 1 year x

Can i ask how u managed with your insomnia I can't sleep at all x

John I'm going thru he'll how long did it take too pass with you x

Hi Karen 

I’m taking Diazipam morning and night , it gets me off to sleep but I do wake really early (4.30-5am) and can’t get back to sleep.

Me too Karen , I don’t want to be here ! My head is totally all over the place feel like I can’t go on anymore 

I'm the same Matt I've just phoned crisis mental health team all they've told me too do is take the sleeping tablets n phone my go in morning I had a awful night last night feel like I can't go on I'm putting my family thru hell my little girl caught me having a complete meltdown on phone to crisis team xx

Hi Karen 

I’m just back from A&E seen mental health crisis team , they have taken blood to check my thyroid and Estrogen levels I have to see GP in the morning to discuss results, maybe need HRT , they will also get me an appointment with the psychiatrist, they think I’m clinically depressed, I have no idea anymore if it’s withdrawal or I’m actually nuts !

They said to take 5mg of Diazipan 3 times a day for now till I see mental health team on Friday.

I totally feel for you and anyone else going through these issues, it’s horrendous. Keep strong Karen , what ever happens and how ever long it takes there is always hope 

U ok Matt xxx

HI Matt,

you still have wd symptoms! Keep on fighting! 

You will get better

 

I’m exhausted, low and have no idea how to get better!

How are you ?

Hi timo

I pray it’s still WD , I’m getting confused by what the mental health team are saying, they say WD is over after 4 weeks and I’m depressed 

Hi,

I have been off now 15 weeks! I still get some symptoms, not so bad anymore! My worst weeks were from 3 to 8. I used mirt approx 14 months.

Try to find your inner fighting spirit and you will get through😈?

Thank you for taking the time to post to me , I have no idea how I would get this sort of info without kind people like you giving your experiences and support. The medical profession confuse me they say WD is over so I must be depressed, I wish they would investigate it more, it’s no wonder people go back on to these meds because like me they a so scared their totally cracking up!

R u taking any other medication or are you on nothing now Matt I've found a great group which is so helpful would you like too join it. It won't do you any harm it's a secret group on your Facebook so no one on your Facebook sees it or anything you post I've found them incredibly helpful xxxx

Matt I was in an awful state yesterday couldn't stop crying desperate for someone too help anxiety thru the roof nausea awful can't eat or drink only water settles my stomach I'm a mess got doctors today n going too ask for a hospital mental health nurse too deal with me cause doctors are trying too help but nothing's working I'm desperate too get bk too work xxx

Did you have the non stop crying not eating and can't sleep I'm going thru he'll here xxx

Matt I feel as if that's what I need to do go too hospital I'm just going round in circles with doctors xxx

Hi Karen 

GP can refer you to your local mental health team or you can go to A&E if you’re in a state and they will get the crisis team to see you then make a plan to help which would mean support from your local mental health team.

I take Diazipam to calm me down and yes I do cry uncontrollably, can’t eat but making myself eat small amounts , sleep is poor , nausea , irrational thinking and feelings of despair and hopelessness, I get the impression this is all part of WD going by what others have said.

You’re GP might be really nice and supportive but they are not mental health specialists and that’s what you would benefit from 

I went to doctors this morning told them straight no messing about I was suicidal and in a bad place I'm now waiting on a phone bk from mental health proffesionals I told the doctor I was grateful for her help but she even said herself it was out her depth n she needed advice from mental health professionals xxx

Matt I'm just off phone too them I've too keep taking my sleeping tablets and they've upped venlafaxine for me I need too get bk too work how r u xx

Hi Karen 

I can not believe they have not asked to see you ! It’s so poor ! They should have made an appointment to see you , talk it through, made suggestions not just upped your med , it bloody we’ll infuriates me , lack of bloody care ! I hope what they have suggested works but come on a bloody phone call ! 

I know I was just glad too get someone too say I was going too be ok xx

Did you swap too another anti depressants x

How are you today Matt x

Hi Karen 

Yesterday wasn’t as bad as Sunday , blood tests not all back so don’t know about thyroid or hormone levels yet , all other blood tests were fine.

Hope your feeling a bit better and more positive today after speaking to mental health team yesterday.

Yes I had a more pieceful night last night from about 6 onwards took my sleeping tablet at 11.30 n slept till 8 so that's very good. Quite nervy this morning just scared if I'm going too have a bad day bit hopefully not just need too stop being hard on myself and take a day at a time. I've said I'd try too go bk too work tomorrow there all my friends in work so that's not worrying me too much i know they will look after me. Ive got a good husband n lovely kids there so kind amd helping me I'm glad you had a better day it's really tough have they put you in any other medication. Do you think it's helping xx

Hi Karen 

Dr gave me Estrogel which I started last night , feel sick and really low this morning, he doesn’t think it’s menopause depression/anxiety he thinks it’s my mental health. I just don’t know anymore!

I see mental health on Friday I’ll see what they say , I’m so fed up with everything just want to feel normal again.

Hope work goes well , it’ll probably help to be around your friends 🤞

I didn't go in going too try again tomorrow. What u said too me yesterday made sense I should be a priority n mental health should be giving me an appointment not a go. So I've phoned doctors n told them I want an emergency appointment with mental health so here I am again waiting in another phone call too plead for help AGAIN I just want too get no too normal I was far too anxious to go to work this morning but I did have a good sleep rite thru the night xx

Hi Karen 

Good for you ! I hope they call and arrange to see you , it’ll give you extra support and reassurance and maybe also some therapy ideas to help you.

Glad you had a better sleep 👍

Been to doctors theve reffered me to crisis mental health I couldn't get there in time for them so I have too wait on the night shift team coming in at half 7 x

How are you doing I've never been so scared in my life I'm a 42 year old woman n my kids are seeing me go thru hell I just want too get better I swear I will never take my health for granted ever again this has gave me an awful fright x

Hi Karen 

It’s good you’re going to see them , they will understand how you are feeling and help you make sense of it , be really honest with them and tell them exactly how you feel, they will hopefully set a plan for you , I see them on Friday afternoon, I’ve been referred to them before a few months ago so I’m hoping with all my notes they can see I need help and will come up with something for me, I really don’t want another AD as for me I have never got on with them they’ve made me worse or maybe I haven’t had the right one , I don’t know but I’m desperate not to go back on anything and try and get through this hell someway else.

I’ve had some CBT which is good but they wanted to step me up to the more intense CBT but can’t whilst I’m taking Diazipam but for now I need the Diazipam to get through the days ! Vicious circle! 

I hope you get some help and feel supported by the team you see .

Hang in there 

I'm in the diazipram too it makes me cope with my anxiety better. How you been today x

Hi Karen 

Made myself go for a couple of walks today , anxiety nipping at my heals all day , feeling nauseous too.

I think I’m a little better than I have been but it’s up and down all the time as you know.

Did you see the mental health team and did you manage to go back to work ?

No Matt I went too go they had to get mental health crisis out too my house my anxiety was crippling me my body was totally exhausted the mental health team have been 100% effective for me they gave me 5mg of diazipram which has worked well and they have told me they will never leave me they come at night and again in morning too check on me . How are you keeping did u say you were in diazepam xx

Hi Karen 

Sorry to hear that , it’s so scary isn’t it. Yes I use Diazipam, I take half a 5mg tablet in the morning and the other half at bedtime and often take more during the day.

I’m supposed to be going to a Mindfulness course at Mind this morning but feel so sick and tired I will have to cancel which I’m so hacked off about because it would have got me out of the house and around other people, I just can’t face it.

Glad crisis came out to you , they’ll look after you and will be a great help to you.

I’m just about to take some more Diazipam then lay on my bed and listen to an audio book.

This has to lift soon it’s just so unfair isn’t it 😩

Yes it is so unfair we don't deserve any of this I'm better than I was they've put me on venlafaxine too my mental health nurse is so lovely I trust her completely she's told me she will not leave me and she will get me better hope you get on and have a better day good too talk too someone going thru this xxx

What mg please

I was on 37.5mg twice a day then it was put up too 75mg twice a day.