Mirtazapine withdrawal, how long does it last?

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Hi, Just looking for some reassurance/support. I was on mirtazapine for about 6months. I went up to 45mg and decided to taper down as I felt they were making me worse and the weight gain was nasty. I felt fab tapering down and generally, its been better than I anticipated however, I'm approaching the 3rd week off of mirtazapine and have started to feel a bit anxious the last few days. I've read withdrawal peaks around the 3/4week mark, so I'm trying to stay positive that it will pass.

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    Hi

    I just wanted to thank you ladies for letting me join here and bringing me into your fold. Before this I felt very alone & frightened with what I’m going through.  Very depressed too, who wouldn’t be. 

    Unless you’ve experienced this or are a loved one of someone who has, there’s no way a person can understand it.  So thank you for your valuable sharing and support. I pray we all will find our way back to healthy and mirtz free. 

    Jo 💕

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    Today I had a teany bit of a Window. And that’s exactly how it felt, a window of how it use to feel to feel normal, it was accompanied with some rational thought.  It did not last very long even though I tried to grab onto it. 

    My therapist has told me that this drug induced anxiety/panic/OCD has created a lopsided dynamic.

    Typically one would have Emotion and Wise Mind intersect somewhere in the middle, but where Im at now my emotional side is dominant and Wise Mind is over shadowed by it via Mirtz.

    Just sharing.

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      Jo that's absolutely awesome it doesn't matter how long it lasted it matters that it happened because that shows that your brain is capable of getting back to homeostasis 😘 X

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    How's everyone's day been today? I've had a better day today than yesterday x

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      I’m having a tiny bit better day today. Yesterday I tried to make myself feel strong, to not buy into the fear. 

      Last night I woke several times but I did sleep and I’m thankful for that. 

      Thank you for asking. How was your sleep, Toria? 

      How’s everyone else doing? 

      Ann, you’re seeing your doc today.  How did it go?

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      Hey jo, so glad you're having a better day even if only slightly, any improvement in a step in the right direction ?? My sleep is still broken but it could be a lot worse, I've had a bit of a break from the racing thoughts today and my anxiety has been less today which is always a bonus x

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      That is great news, Gretel! I’m so happy for you. A good sleep can really help with being able to cope with things during the day. 
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      Dr thinks im getting there, now down about 2mg and will try another drop in next few weeks.  She says i seem better than i was, i dont see it but hey ho.

      i need not to buy into the fear - need to try to make myself go to hairdresser, its getting too long.   I need to see my friends for coffee.  Where my self esteem has gone i dont know.  Maybe once the mirtazapine is gone i can do these things.

      i see you are having a better day, roll on.

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      What did you write jo that's waiting to be moderated 😂😲

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      Sheesh, I know! I didn’t write anything that needs moderating, but I’m thinking I’m posting so much the system automatically moderates at a certain number of posts? 

      🤪

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      Good news from the doc, Ann!

      So if I’m reading this right you’re at 2mg now, or no? 

      And yes, sounds like you’re ready to start being more social. They say exposure is the way home, but doing it when you feel some readiness is key.  My therapist also says doing things that you enjoy and soothe you are very helpful, no matter how small and insignificant because your brain “remembers” them and accesses that area of enjoyment from before mirtazapine.

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      Great Ann! I found getting my hair done to be a big pick me up. When I cant go for coffee, my friend comes over and we have coffee in our pyjamas.
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      I’ve heard that coloring books or even painting are suppose to access the relaxation part of your brain. I am certain that crocheting is just as good if not better!
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      Going to setup Facebook page on Monday so will be able to bore you by showing you some crochet pics 😂 Today has been a better day so why am I scared it won't last! Hate all this, can't wait until these withdrawals are over for all of us x

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      I would love to see those crochet pictures! 

      I think the worry of it not lasting is part and parcel to getting well. Mirtz took so much away it’s natural we worry about how we’ll feel tomorrow. We’ve been suffering so long, feeling good again is huge!  Try to enjoy it and not worry. Each day is progress because you are off of it!!!

       I know I will feel the same when I’m where you’re at one day. Maybe remind me of the same when I express the same worry?

      Hugs 

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      Note to self:

       ✅ Make dentist appointment

       ✅ Get hair done

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      I am feeling rotten with sore throat this week, but just pushing on.  I am not feeling more social, i am still wanting to just be with my hubby and can do some things but not much.

      do you, or snyone else know if i need to be off the mirtaz completely for a while before this will come back?   Requires a lot of hard sork i expect.  Difficult to do when you still fee down.   Maybe i need another anti dep but failures on so many have caused me to be sceptical.  I thought the nightmares had gone but even at this low dose they are still coming .

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      Wish i could get myself to,hairdressers.  Dont know whats wrong, im titrating down slowly on this mirtaz yet i still cant face going to many places, hairdresser takes three hours for colour cut and dry, i just cant domit.  Whats wrong with me? Never had this problem before.  Will this go away when i stop mirtaz?
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      Thank you jo, I will always be here to talk, don't think I will ever forget this experience for as long as I live x

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      Ann everything eases and goes, something's go away and come back but not forever, think of it like a rubicks cube trying to be solved x

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      Ann, its the mirt/depression/withdrawl, etc. fueling the indecision and lack of motivation. There is nothing wrong with you. You will be ok. I get like that alot. The Publishers Clearing House man could be standing on the lawn with that million dollar check, and i am like no i dont think im going outside today. Lol
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      Morning Ann

      It’s not you, Ann. It’s the Mirtz that’s doing this to you. You’re not going to be like this forever, it’s temporary.  You’re so close to being completely off it.  Even though you have those bad days, like today, there will be more good days than bad eventually.  It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon. 

      I know how depressing and frustrated you feel, but knowing it IS temporary should help a little.  Big hugs from me.

      If you’re not ready to socialize yet, then wait til you are. But don’t let the negative intrusive thoughts take over, fight them with thinking positive things about yourself.  

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      My therapist tells me that when the irrational fear keeps me from doing things I use to do and then I get down on myself and depressed and frustrated and start saving to myself “what the hell is wrong with me” and “this will never end” etc. etc., that I am feeding the depression and anxiety. 

      She says to tell myself this IS temporary and that I am going thru something tough right now and I’m doing a great job considering the circumstances. 

      I try to remember to say these things to myself but it’s so hard when I feel so bad. But I know she is right, it feeds the Mirtz beast and it’s asshat pals; anxiety, panic & depression. 

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      I too hate everything about this mirtz thing. The nightmares are especially sucky. Sometimes it’s so hard to shake off a nightmare laden night that included racing pounding heart and full body sweats. 

      I try to tell myself it’s only a dream but it still makes me feel crappy the first few hours of my morning. Feel like a dark ugly cloud is raining over my head following me around. 

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      I really wish some of the folks on this thread from over a year+ ago would post how they’re doing now. I think we could reallly benefit from hearing from them and how their doing, whether they still have w/d effects, when did they completely stop, etc. 

      I did post to a couple of them but they haven’t responded. 😕

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      Jo.r,

      I do too. But I believe they may want to put this consuming matter behind them. I as well have messaged a few. What can you do?

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      I'm going to set that Facebook page up on Monday, even if it only helps one person I will be happy, by the way my heart rate is scary sometimes up to 140bm

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      Well, I know having a FB Page will def help me. I’m excited you’re doing it!

      Yes, my heart rate gets really fast too.  I remember before mirtz that I never had any of this weird crap going on in my body. I have apologized to both my body and mind for ever taking the POS drug. 

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      I’m having some strong anxiety & panic today. I’m fighting it but I’m not winning.

      I have to go out the house and buy groceries today, this is so hard to do. I use to enjoy getting groceries. Now it’s nothing but scary.  

      I’ve committed that I’m going to eat better and more, but actually doing it is so damn hard, not just the shopping but also the cooking. 

      How am I ever going to get thru this, I have many mos to still go til I’m even off the mirtz. 

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      Jo.r,

      I am the same way. Just remind yourself that you did it before. You can do it.

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      Jo one day at a time and not one minute at a time as I know when it's bad you wish the days away x

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      Thanks Gretel. Even though it does really help me knowing others are having the same mirtz w/d effects, I feel so bad that you have to go thru this too.

      Everything feels so damn overwhelming, even the smallest mundane things.  Things I never second thought and did every day for my entire life are now analyzed by my brain to death in attempt to figure out if it’s safe or not.  It’s tiring and it’s irritating. I’m so sick of the fear!

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      Thank you, Toria. One day at a time is so right on.  

      I’m wanting so much to feel normal again. So so much.

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      It will happen my lovely, we have to remember even though it's hard we wouldn't have moments of clarity if we weren't capable of normalisation x

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      I have also tried to ask follow up questions but these people have disappeared too.  Maybe we should assume they are better and no longer need what we do on this site support.
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      I truly believe we will all get there, I've found my old anti nausea tablets help loads, they are for nausea, sleep and have a mild calming effect x

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      Hi Ann

      I'm still here.

      It's a nightmare for me to answer on here as i get this delayed typing thing.

      Would love to join in. Hoping for the Facebook page so I can share my psyc visit results. He didnt say a lot but the shock look on his face said volumes ...and definitely mirt withdrawals.

      Gxo

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      I’m so anxious to know what your Psych had to say, don’t think I can wait till Monday!
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      Anyone else get the start of what feels like a panic attack after eating where your heart races and pounds?
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      Thinking of you tomorrow knowing it’s the 13th and you’re on your own at home. You’ll do great Toria, and we’re here if you need us.

      ?? 🤩

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      Aw thank you jo, it's Monday that my partner goes back so still 2 days yet x

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      Thats really interesting your psych looked like he knew the problem, they just wont admit it and i find that scary when they are the professionals.

      i am so sorry i am not on facebook but hope you will still be on this site with your good advice and help.

      still trying to shake off todays nightmare and cope with whatever ive got, virus or not.

      good feeling of getting haircut yesterday has left me now and im flat again.  I know when i see psych in a few weeks he will want me to take something else after the mirtaz as im obviously not better.  Can i get better without is the wuestion.  Or is it just mirtaz leaving me will take a long time.  Questions i know he wont answer truthfully.

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      Oh Ann, so sorry you’re not going to be on FB.  Wish you were. 

      I tried to post a link to another site that has thousands of people posting simular stories to ours about mirtz withdrawal, but they were placed under moderation. 🙁

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      Google “Mental Health Daily Mirtazapine Withdrawal”
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      Google “Mental Health Daily Mirtazapine Withdrawal” then scroll towards the bottom where people have posted their stories.
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      Not so good. Thank you for responding.  Was reading at that site I posted up above and probably shouldn’t have.  

      Now feeling hopeless, scared and sick of this. 

      How are you doing?

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      Bless you jo, I've been there reading what others have been through and it really doesn't help but we are so desperate for answers, I actually think I've read the whole internet regarding mirtazapine withdrawal and their really aren't any answers, all we can do is try to be good to ourselves, everyone's healing time is different, but rest assured we all heal as this is my third time stopping mirtazapine and I healed the first and second time, sending hugs ??

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      Thanks Toria. This is my second try, first was a failed attempt that I never recovered from as you know. But also this drug never helped me but made we feel worse from day one. 

      It worries me that I may never make it back to before mirtazapine.

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      Honestly jo you really will, this last time it didn't agree with me as it made me convulse on day 7! Today has been awful but I had so many windows the 7 days before, hopefully with you tapering your withdrawals shouldn't last as long once off x

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      I’m so sorry your day has been awful! There’s many more good days ahead for you, hang on to that thought cuz it’s true.  

      I don’t know there was such a thing called “pro-tracted withdrawal”, or that mirtz was an ANTI-histamine.  I thought it was a histamine. Jeez.

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      Jo I did the protracted withdrawal panic a month ago 😑 Yes it's an anti histamine that's why it helps you sleep and when you stop you itch, I've literally cried the night away tonight, feeling so many emotions but all of them negative x

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      I’m so sorry, Toria.  I hear ya about the negative emotions, they’re all consuming.  I get pummeled with that negativity too, it’s horrific. Just know tomorrow is another day and it just may be the start of another long stretch of 7 good days for you lovely. 💕

      I’m still very confused about waves and windows.  I thought “waves” were waves of anxiety and “windows” were glimpses of feeling like our old selves (pre-mirtz) where we also could think rational thoughts. 

      Reading the other site seems I may have the definition of “waves” wrong.  Can you help me out with it’s true definition?

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      Waves aren't necessarily just anxiety they can be any number of side effects, apparently when we are in a wave that is when the brain/body is repairing itself, it goes on and on until it gets to homeostasis/baseline, the windows from what I can understand are when a bit has been repaired, that explains whilst in a window why we feel better but not completely cured x

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      Thanks for the help, Toria.

      So even though I am still taperin and not in withdrawal, I can and should experience waves and windows?

      Anyone else experience waves & windows during their taper?

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      I can't say about waves and windows during taper as I've always done it the stupid way cold turkey 😑

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      Jo I completley agree with you,would love to hear more positive stories,one thing for sure when I get off this drug completley,and am fully recovered I would 100% share my story,just to give others hope,as most of us are looking for hope and guidance right now.

      maybe why we don't see more positive stories on here is that the ones who've come off and are well,haven't had same need for accessing this site like most of us looking for guidance and reassurance.

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      You are somright, this site is full,of people who are having problems with withdrawal or needing a drug which works for,them.  I am really concerned that someone is 15 months on and no respite, that cant be possible dr not doing anything surely
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      Ann,I really feel for the person 15 months down the line and getting no respite,but that is ONE person.but I think the ones who successfully withdrawel and are well now,no longer have the need to use this site for reassurance,so we never hear about all those good stories, people,(very sad,and very selfish) as it would give everyone more hope.just try to hold on to that.

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