Mirtazapine withdrawal, how long does it last?
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Hi, Just looking for some reassurance/support. I was on mirtazapine for about 6months. I went up to 45mg and decided to taper down as I felt they were making me worse and the weight gain was nasty. I felt fab tapering down and generally, its been better than I anticipated however, I'm approaching the 3rd week off of mirtazapine and have started to feel a bit anxious the last few days. I've read withdrawal peaks around the 3/4week mark, so I'm trying to stay positive that it will pass.
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Morning_Rain rachael42781
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Hi
I just wanted to thank you ladies for letting me join here and bringing me into your fold. Before this I felt very alone & frightened with what I’m going through. Very depressed too, who wouldn’t be.
Unless you’ve experienced this or are a loved one of someone who has, there’s no way a person can understand it. So thank you for your valuable sharing and support. I pray we all will find our way back to healthy and mirtz free.
Jo 💕
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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I'm thinking of starting a support group on Facebook if anyone is interested x
Gretel toria_07298
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toria_07298 Gretel
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Will let you know when I've set it up x
gina01020 toria_07298
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Yes please.
I have so much trouble typing on here. It's like a delayed reaction even on my phone. Takes half an hour to even type this bit. Let us know too xo
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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toria_07298 gina01020
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I will do lovely, I'm thinking Monday I will set it all up and let you all know x
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Morning_Rain rachael42781
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My therapist has told me that this drug induced anxiety/panic/OCD has created a lopsided dynamic.
Typically one would have Emotion and Wise Mind intersect somewhere in the middle, but where Im at now my emotional side is dominant and Wise Mind is over shadowed by it via Mirtz.
Just sharing.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Jo that's absolutely awesome it doesn't matter how long it lasted it matters that it happened because that shows that your brain is capable of getting back to homeostasis 😘 X
toria_07298 rachael42781
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How's everyone's day been today? I've had a better day today than yesterday x
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Last night I woke several times but I did sleep and I’m thankful for that.
Thank you for asking. How was your sleep, Toria?
How’s everyone else doing?
Ann, you’re seeing your doc today. How did it go?
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Hey jo, so glad you're having a better day even if only slightly, any improvement in a step in the right direction ?? My sleep is still broken but it could be a lot worse, I've had a bit of a break from the racing thoughts today and my anxiety has been less today which is always a bonus x
Gretel toria_07298
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Morning_Rain Gretel
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ann55375 Morning_Rain
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i need not to buy into the fear - need to try to make myself go to hairdresser, its getting too long. I need to see my friends for coffee. Where my self esteem has gone i dont know. Maybe once the mirtazapine is gone i can do these things.
i see you are having a better day, roll on.
toria_07298
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What did you write jo that's waiting to be moderated 😂😲
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Sheesh, I know! I didn’t write anything that needs moderating, but I’m thinking I’m posting so much the system automatically moderates at a certain number of posts?
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Morning_Rain ann55375
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So if I’m reading this right you’re at 2mg now, or no?
And yes, sounds like you’re ready to start being more social. They say exposure is the way home, but doing it when you feel some readiness is key. My therapist also says doing things that you enjoy and soothe you are very helpful, no matter how small and insignificant because your brain “remembers” them and accesses that area of enjoyment from before mirtazapine.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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I'm back to my crochet now I've missed it so much
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Hi Toria. Here is an essential oil that really helps with sleep. You rub a tiny bit on your feet at night. It’s a bit expensive but a tiny bit (2 drops) goes a long way so the bottle lasts a long time.
DoTera “Serenity”
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004NJXW1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1515702050&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=doterra+serenity&psc=1&smid=A3J4Q49GMO142X[/b]
Gretel ann55375
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Morning_Rain toria_07298
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toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Going to setup Facebook page on Monday so will be able to bore you by showing you some crochet pics 😂 Today has been a better day so why am I scared it won't last! Hate all this, can't wait until these withdrawals are over for all of us x
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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I think the worry of it not lasting is part and parcel to getting well. Mirtz took so much away it’s natural we worry about how we’ll feel tomorrow. We’ve been suffering so long, feeling good again is huge! Try to enjoy it and not worry. Each day is progress because you are off of it!!!
I know I will feel the same when I’m where you’re at one day. Maybe remind me of the same when I express the same worry?
Hugs
Morning_Rain
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✅ Make dentist appointment
✅ Get hair done
ann55375 Morning_Rain
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do you, or snyone else know if i need to be off the mirtaz completely for a while before this will come back? Requires a lot of hard sork i expect. Difficult to do when you still fee down. Maybe i need another anti dep but failures on so many have caused me to be sceptical. I thought the nightmares had gone but even at this low dose they are still coming .
ann55375 Gretel
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toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Thank you jo, I will always be here to talk, don't think I will ever forget this experience for as long as I live x
toria_07298 ann55375
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Ann everything eases and goes, something's go away and come back but not forever, think of it like a rubicks cube trying to be solved x
Gretel ann55375
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Morning_Rain ann55375
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It’s not you, Ann. It’s the Mirtz that’s doing this to you. You’re not going to be like this forever, it’s temporary. You’re so close to being completely off it. Even though you have those bad days, like today, there will be more good days than bad eventually. It’s not a sprint, it’s a marathon.
I know how depressing and frustrated you feel, but knowing it IS temporary should help a little. Big hugs from me.
If you’re not ready to socialize yet, then wait til you are. But don’t let the negative intrusive thoughts take over, fight them with thinking positive things about yourself.
Morning_Rain
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My therapist tells me that when the irrational fear keeps me from doing things I use to do and then I get down on myself and depressed and frustrated and start saving to myself “what the hell is wrong with me” and “this will never end” etc. etc., that I am feeding the depression and anxiety.
She says to tell myself this IS temporary and that I am going thru something tough right now and I’m doing a great job considering the circumstances.
I try to remember to say these things to myself but it’s so hard when I feel so bad. But I know she is right, it feeds the Mirtz beast and it’s asshat pals; anxiety, panic & depression.
Morning_Rain ann55375
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I try to tell myself it’s only a dream but it still makes me feel crappy the first few hours of my morning. Feel like a dark ugly cloud is raining over my head following me around.
Morning_Rain
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I really wish some of the folks on this thread from over a year+ ago would post how they’re doing now. I think we could reallly benefit from hearing from them and how their doing, whether they still have w/d effects, when did they completely stop, etc.
I did post to a couple of them but they haven’t responded. 😕
Gretel Morning_Rain
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I do too. But I believe they may want to put this consuming matter behind them. I as well have messaged a few. What can you do?
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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I'm going to set that Facebook page up on Monday, even if it only helps one person I will be happy, by the way my heart rate is scary sometimes up to 140bm
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Yes, my heart rate gets really fast too. I remember before mirtz that I never had any of this weird crap going on in my body. I have apologized to both my body and mind for ever taking the POS drug.
Morning_Rain
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I’m having some strong anxiety & panic today. I’m fighting it but I’m not winning.
I have to go out the house and buy groceries today, this is so hard to do. I use to enjoy getting groceries. Now it’s nothing but scary.
I’ve committed that I’m going to eat better and more, but actually doing it is so damn hard, not just the shopping but also the cooking.
How am I ever going to get thru this, I have many mos to still go til I’m even off the mirtz.
Gretel Morning_Rain
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I am the same way. Just remind yourself that you did it before. You can do it.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Jo one day at a time and not one minute at a time as I know when it's bad you wish the days away x
Morning_Rain Gretel
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Everything feels so damn overwhelming, even the smallest mundane things. Things I never second thought and did every day for my entire life are now analyzed by my brain to death in attempt to figure out if it’s safe or not. It’s tiring and it’s irritating. I’m so sick of the fear!
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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I’m wanting so much to feel normal again. So so much.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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It will happen my lovely, we have to remember even though it's hard we wouldn't have moments of clarity if we weren't capable of normalisation x
ann55375 Morning_Rain
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toria_07298 ann55375
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I truly believe we will all get there, I've found my old anti nausea tablets help loads, they are for nausea, sleep and have a mild calming effect x
gina01020 ann55375
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Hi Ann
I'm still here.
It's a nightmare for me to answer on here as i get this delayed typing thing.
Would love to join in. Hoping for the Facebook page so I can share my psyc visit results. He didnt say a lot but the shock look on his face said volumes ...and definitely mirt withdrawals.
Gxo
toria_07298 gina01020
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Hey Gina, I'm setting it up Monday x
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Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Thinking of you tomorrow knowing it’s the 13th and you’re on your own at home. You’ll do great Toria, and we’re here if you need us.
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toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Aw thank you jo, it's Monday that my partner goes back so still 2 days yet x
ann55375 gina01020
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i am so sorry i am not on facebook but hope you will still be on this site with your good advice and help.
still trying to shake off todays nightmare and cope with whatever ive got, virus or not.
good feeling of getting haircut yesterday has left me now and im flat again. I know when i see psych in a few weeks he will want me to take something else after the mirtaz as im obviously not better. Can i get better without is the wuestion. Or is it just mirtaz leaving me will take a long time. Questions i know he wont answer truthfully.
Morning_Rain ann55375
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Point your Psych to this site Ann where thousands of people have posted major acute & lengthy mirtz withdrawals!
Scroll toward bottom where folks posted their stories.
http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2014/07/21/remeron-mirtazapine-withdrawal-symptoms-how-long-they-last/
Morning_Rain
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We’re not alone in what we’re going thru
http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2014/07/21/remeron-mirtazapine-withdrawal-symptoms-how-long-they-last/
Morning_Rain ann55375
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Oh Ann, so sorry you’re not going to be on FB. Wish you were.
I tried to post a link to another site that has thousands of people posting simular stories to ours about mirtz withdrawal, but they were placed under moderation. 🙁
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toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Now feeling hopeless, scared and sick of this.
How are you doing?
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Bless you jo, I've been there reading what others have been through and it really doesn't help but we are so desperate for answers, I actually think I've read the whole internet regarding mirtazapine withdrawal and their really aren't any answers, all we can do is try to be good to ourselves, everyone's healing time is different, but rest assured we all heal as this is my third time stopping mirtazapine and I healed the first and second time, sending hugs ??
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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It worries me that I may never make it back to before mirtazapine.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Honestly jo you really will, this last time it didn't agree with me as it made me convulse on day 7! Today has been awful but I had so many windows the 7 days before, hopefully with you tapering your withdrawals shouldn't last as long once off x
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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I don’t know there was such a thing called “pro-tracted withdrawal”, or that mirtz was an ANTI-histamine. I thought it was a histamine. Jeez.
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Jo I did the protracted withdrawal panic a month ago 😑 Yes it's an anti histamine that's why it helps you sleep and when you stop you itch, I've literally cried the night away tonight, feeling so many emotions but all of them negative x
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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I’m so sorry, Toria. I hear ya about the negative emotions, they’re all consuming. I get pummeled with that negativity too, it’s horrific. Just know tomorrow is another day and it just may be the start of another long stretch of 7 good days for you lovely. 💕
I’m still very confused about waves and windows. I thought “waves” were waves of anxiety and “windows” were glimpses of feeling like our old selves (pre-mirtz) where we also could think rational thoughts.
Reading the other site seems I may have the definition of “waves” wrong. Can you help me out with it’s true definition?
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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Waves aren't necessarily just anxiety they can be any number of side effects, apparently when we are in a wave that is when the brain/body is repairing itself, it goes on and on until it gets to homeostasis/baseline, the windows from what I can understand are when a bit has been repaired, that explains whilst in a window why we feel better but not completely cured x
Morning_Rain toria_07298
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Thanks for the help, Toria.
So even though I am still taperin and not in withdrawal, I can and should experience waves and windows?
Anyone else experience waves & windows during their taper?
toria_07298 Morning_Rain
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I can't say about waves and windows during taper as I've always done it the stupid way cold turkey 😑
Guest Morning_Rain
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Jo I completley agree with you,would love to hear more positive stories,one thing for sure when I get off this drug completley,and am fully recovered I would 100% share my story,just to give others hope,as most of us are looking for hope and guidance right now.
maybe why we don't see more positive stories on here is that the ones who've come off and are well,haven't had same need for accessing this site like most of us looking for guidance and reassurance.
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