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I would like to know why there is an opinion that if mirt works for you ,you are naive.for every person it doesn't work for there must be a person it works for.
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Posted , 6 users are following.
I would like to know why there is an opinion that if mirt works for you ,you are naive.for every person it doesn't work for there must be a person it works for.
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RobertT carolyn88417
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carolyn88417 RobertT
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zaphod carolyn88417
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It doesn`t suit everyone, and having to constantly watch what you eat can be a pain, but it isn`t a problem for me as I have type II diabetes, so no sugars.
Hope it works for you
Paddy
carolyn88417 zaphod
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jacqueline59667 zaphod
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nickjayuk carolyn88417
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Is it working for insomniacs who cant sleep - Yes it worked for me.
Is it working for people with eating disorders - Yes it worked for me also - Too well.
So if you think like that then yes it may work for some - however side effects include suicidal thoughts and if you havent checked the massive list of side effects I suggest you do this. I never checked side effects but I had to check up when on mirtazapine because I had some serious nasty side effects. Doctors are payed to prescribe and most doctors would never take what they prescribe themselves this is a big warning sign. There are some happy clappy doctors who do prescribe themselves everything also the other end of the scale I have seen some crazy things.
I asked the consultant "Can anti depressants lead to bipolar" his answer YES. Which means I would need even more medication. It is a slippery slope and if mirtazapine is working for you - great but my advice would be this:
Use the drug, dont let the drug use you. Dont let your life pass you by while taking medication and dont just accept new medication and up your medication all the time this is a serious problem at the moment worldwide. Doctors prescribe mirtazapine like smarties and in my honest opinion they shouldn't be allowed to. I had to see a consultant because my doctor said to me after 7 months "It should be working right now, I dont know its not my area you will have to be booked in for a consultant"
My doctor didnt have a clue, I went to see a second doctor and she never heard of side effects with mirtazapine. This is not a dig at anyone but PLEASE BE CAREFUL - its your body you choose what you do with it. Doctors are far from always right!
Hope any of this helps x
carolyn88417 nickjayuk
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zaphod nickjayuk
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I put my name in Google and got 2,800.000+ results, only 3 were about me!.
Of course we take on board your comments of being careful about taking such powerfull, and mind altering drugs, but when one has been in the utter depths of deprssion for years, even decades, anything that worked seemed wonderful to me. All drugs have a list of side effects 1/2 a mile long, I`m often amused to see it listing "weight gain", and then "weight loss" for the same drug! (according to the BNF)
Personally, I can only speak for myself when I say that Mitazipine was liturally a life saver for me, I took it for deep organic long standing Depression, I cannot comment on whether it helps people put on weight, and as a sleeping tablet I think it may be useful for a couple of weeks, but other than that I don`t know.
It was designed as an anti depressant, and that is what they did for me.
I honestly think that at the time they were by far the most effective option available, there may be newer drugs that are better, I don`t know.
Everyone is different, so what is right for one may be disasterous for someone else, but carolyn88417 asked if there were any positve comment on the drug, that`s all I tried to do, it his her/his decision whether it is right for them, and the specifics of the illness they are fighting.
All the best
Paddy
nickjayuk zaphod
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Glad your feeling better anyway!
Nick
zaphod nickjayuk
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NickOliver zaphod
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Was this as a result of a repeat prescription? It would be unusual for a GP to change your prescription without an appointment - I would have thought.
Do you have a consultant or does your GP manage your treatment? My consultant might reduce my dosage following a consultation and then write to the GP. Despite the fact that I am no longer supposed to be on Lithium my GP still puts it on my prescription such that each day I have to discard that.
In fact, if I go to my GP to complain about the sedative effects of a drug - mirt or quetiapine - he says that was what was prescribed by my psychiatrist. I believe that the GP is the primary contact for treatment - that is why they are called Primary Care Trusts.
Either way I asked him to tell my consultant. If he doesn't tell the consultant how will he know.
Also I have my psychiatrist's email address - he didn't give it to me. Somehow my MDF group got it - I email him with problems I am having with my meds. I don't have a care coordinator and I speak to my consultant directly - why speak to the monkey when you can talk to the organ grinder.
NickOliver nickjayuk
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My sister is a GP and wouldn't dream of treating herself or her children. She and they have another GP.
Interestingly I found this discussion on the GMC website about this.
GPs can't win about treating psychiatric conditions. I have known people who like to get medication through their GP who is not clued up on the right meds and can continue prescribing meds when if they were to see a psych they would say that the patient no longer needs them - and, of course, once the psych has said that there is little way that the GP could continue to prescribe.
zaphod NickOliver
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zaphod NickOliver
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NickOliver nickjayuk
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There i also no mention of this as even a rare side-effect on the NHS guidelines.
www.beh-mht.nhs.uk/Downloads/Patient%20and%20carers/Medication%20leaflets/Adults%20and%20older%20people/Mirtazapine.pdf
NickOliver zaphod
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zaphod NickOliver
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And no, the Psychiatrist that I was under for 20 years was recognised as the best the NHS had to offer in this town, came straight out of university and specialised in Psychiatry. I saw plenty of the other type before I was lucky enough to get him to accept me onto his list.
I haven`t seen a Psychiatrist since he retired, and now the only person I see is the Psychiatrict nurse who`s attached to the local surgery.
Fotunately, I had been stable for some time before the Psychiatrist retired, I don`t know how things are now, but from what I read in the local paper Mental Health care is in a sorry state, and it wasn`t that great when I was involved in it.
Paddy
zaphod NickOliver
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nickjayuk NickOliver
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NickOliver zaphod
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I am not clear what "people of the other type" are.
My sister is a doctor and post-getting their degree they have to do two short 6-month postings - I don't know if psychiatry is one they can choose - but I doubt it would be one of thoe but I don't know.
NickOliver nickjayuk
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When I type in "Mirtazapine hair loss" again I get 24,700 results.
And why would people take mirtazipine if they knew that it was going to have a strong sedative effect - but they do. andy why would women have chemotherapy if they knew that they were going to lose all their hair - but they do?
Finally believe what you want - because you only believe what you want to hear.
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