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Moral Hazard Forum Use?

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Libertiene
Libertiene

Can anyone agree that there is an element of moral hazard associated with this forum? People naturally want to help each other however here people who have genuine health problems are maybe seeking advice from people who are underqualified? Maybe some contributors are highly qualified but some may not be even if they have pure intentions.

Is it possible that this site could give people false hope about their conditions because of this?

I think that this forum shows an underlying problem with the health care system if we feel we need to ask random people we don't know about serious personal health problems in a public forum?

I would suggest that some people may argue that people should not gelam false hope from the responses to their posts but I think we all know this is not the reality of the situation.     

 

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  • Beverley_01
    Beverley_01 Libertiene

    Posted

    Hi libertiene,

    I came on to the website due to a need to feel heard by people In the same boat. I have CFS/ME and mainly use that forum. I'm not medically trained and can't offer advice on things I've not experienced say a biopsy for example but can give my sense of what an MRI scan is like.

    I guess people are here for different reasons. I live in the UK and am lucky to have access to the Nhs. People In other countries have to pay for their medical care and may come on here to streamline what their issue may be before handing out their cash.

    Be Interesting to see what others say.

    B

    • Libertiene
      Libertiene Beverley_01

      Posted

      I agree with your statements and i think it is interesting what you say about other countries. I am in the UK also. I feel that there is a certain stigma associated with questioning the actions of a health care professional. However if i was handing over cash i would want to be bloody sure i was getting my money's worth. I often come away from the Doctor feeling almost disillusioned with the outcome, and have ended up here. Perhaps I should question more?  

      I fear that the many of the people here are desperately looking for answers some of the posts I have read even have an air of utter despair. But are we little more than headless chickens in the dark?

    • Beverley_01
      Beverley_01 Libertiene

      Posted

      Hi libertiene,,

      I hear what you're saying (didn't actually get alert from site for your reply so apologies) but, I also think the doctors, specialists etc, don't actually know everything and some, I feel, are actually in the wrong job. I've had some fantastic professionals and some not. The "white coat syndrome" means we often don't question. I had a consultant have a go at me and write in his report that I was fine when I aren't. No No-one is going to believe me that a top consultant raised his voice at me and more or less called me stupid. All I can say is don't go to specialist appointments on your own and complain if you need to at the time.

      I agree with others here, great site to get support and clarity.

      Beverley

  • Portacrean
    Portacrean Libertiene

    Posted

    I think people come here when they are scared and just don't know where to start looking. Many times they've had practically every test known and doctors just seem to give up. I have enough problems of my own that can't find answers to. So , no , I would never suggest any kind of treatment , other than to see their doctor. Many doctors just say , oh it's age related simply because they don't want to spend time looking for answers. So , they come here hoping someone may have an idea of where to go next. I think this is a great place for guidance not treatment.
    • Libertiene
      Libertiene Portacrean

      Posted

      Sounds like the system has failed you as well? I dont think people should have to come here for advise. I think it is a failure of society. 
    • Portacrean
      Portacrean Libertiene

      Posted

      You bet it has ! My problems started way back in 2004 with a heart bypass using the davinci robot. Still breathing but excruciating pain for 12 years. Can't even cut my own grass ! None of the docs want to blame mistakes on a doctor who used the davinci and wasn't properly trained. He has since disappeared . Trying to convince everybody , I had nothing to do with it.😁 I'm just glad he's gone though. Docs have said they think I have everything from a hernia to costocondritis. Who knows nothing shows up in any test so now they say well you're getting older so we just have to put up with certain pain. It's all a bunch of bull. The whole system. I've spent thousands out of pocket. U.S health care 😂😂😂😂 is almost laughable.
    • KMRC
      KMRC Libertiene

      Posted

      Society cannot cure all our ills.  We need to recapture our humanity and grace and try to help others where we can.  There is some valuable information on this site but if you think it's all bull, leave it.  We are not all the same and we each need different levels of support and an opportunity to support others.  Many of us have few folks in the world to count on and sometimes a kind word or genuine interest in what someone is going thru.  Think what you want but don't impose your negative thoughts on everyone else.  It is abusive and unkind.
    • nicola34310
      nicola34310 KMRC

      Posted

      Hiya

      I totally agree with you, I love this site and I will stick up for it 100% I don't understand why people are like you said being negative if you don't like it get off it, we don't need your bad vibes,

      Love you all

      Nic 😘

  • lester90053
    lester90053 Libertiene

    Posted

    Agreed. This is supposed to be a support group but many are using it to avoid seeing a medical professional. I commented about this on another patient catagory some time ago and was highly criticized for it,
  • nicola34310
    nicola34310 Libertiene

    Posted

    Hi my lovely peeps

    I understand what you are saying regarding using this site, but I have used this site for 2 years now not for a diagnosis but to not only share my experiences but just to have someone who listens, I have made a beautiful friend in here and we speak on a daily basis since March 2015, we both were having surgery if a full hysterectomy and this is a scary operation for woman but I found recovery easier due to just having that person or persons to talk to about how we were feeling for me she was 2 weeks ahead of my operation, I have had 2 further major surgeries and I feel everyone on here just want to feel loved and understood. I love everyone on this forum and I hope they get their circumstances resolved if possible.

    Love always to you all and thank you 😘

    Nic

    • lester90053
      lester90053 nicola34310

      Posted

      Exactly what I mean. This is a great support group and should be used as such.
  • respecthealth
    respecthealth Libertiene

    Posted

    Good comments. Definitely should use our wisdom and common sense first, and to never leave out the relevant health professionals from our care. Must say, as already mentioned, it's a great site for general guidance and a community feeling, a feeling that there are caring people out there ready to support and actively listen. Not everyone has access to that in reality, sometimes due to busyness and sometimes due to just apathy on the part of others. 
  • jeanp
    jeanp Libertiene

    Posted

    I agree with respecthealth, a support community of others who may be suffering similar conditions and can understand what you are going through is really useful. And no-one wants to bore the bottom off their friends or colleagues about their ailments, do they?

    However, I am thinking I may be using visiting these forums a little but too often - it is becoming almost a hobby, and I think may be leading me to be just a little bit obsessive about my health. What do other people think of this?

    • henryJohn
      henryJohn jeanp

      Posted

      Totally agree with your first paragraph. I hate boring friends and family with my health issue stories. I might be paranoid but sense I can see their eyes roll when they see me or are talking to me. I do try to talk about other things until someone comes over, interrupts my conversations to ask how I am and off I go again!!

      Then the person I was arguing about football or rugby or drink, food, love, sex-( ha ha) has walked off just when I was enjoying myself.

      As to 2nd paragraph- if it makes u feel better then why not though I do tend to put the odd joke/ fun comment, whatever in to lighten things up- u could become quite morbid otherwise I think

    • Portacrean
      Portacrean henryJohn

      Posted

      Haha! Yep. Biggest mistake my family can make is " how are you today ". I've come to realize , they don't really want to know. So , now I tell them , oh just fine. So , at least , if I don't get anything else from here , I feel that someone is listening. Maybe they aren't , really , but it makes me feel a little better to tell someone and just maybe someone on here can identify with me and know they aren't alone. I think it helps just to vent , if nothing else.
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