More naps at lower predict doses?

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I notice more fatigue at my present 6.75 MG dose . A nap seems to recharge me somewhat. Has anyone else noted this? I am also wondering , if the fatigue is rather overwhelming , to stay at a dose until it abates?

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    i have EXACTLY the same question. some say yes, its your adrenals playing catch up, just tough it out, others say go up a little on dose. im using dsns to get to 5 1/2, almost there. the fatigue is gripping. and sometimes i feel fluey. if i go back up to 6, it abates a little, at least i think it does. so for me, its the age old question--power through or increase dosage.

    also again, there is no magic answer to this one--how long should i expect the fatigue to last? some say a few weeks, others say until they get to a lower dose, maybe 3, maybe lower. i guess i keep trying to figure out what to expect, what to do to avoid a return of more pain, but the fatigue is rather debilitating on its own. best wishes and let us know what you think.

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    My theory about the fatigue: this is one reason we have to reduce very very slowly at these lower levels, to give adrenals a chance to catch up. On the other hand we also want to keep challenging them so they do wake up. A balancing act.

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    Powering through would be ok if it worked but if all it does is put your life on hold it seems pointless. PMR does not reward you for penance and you can't buy indulgencies either.

    Around 7 mgs. does seem a common level for glitches to kick in. My sister, who was diagnosed around Christmas 2017 was going along smoothly until she got to, I think, eight and then hit the pain and exhaustion barrier and she felt short changed and indignant. I had still not convinced her that PMR doesn't often follow a diagnosis/ treatment/cure path. Her GP put her right back to 20 temporarily and this time, when she got to around ten, has been following the DSNS method, so far successfully.

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    This is the fatigue associated with your adrenal function needing to get going again. From now on slow is the best approach - and you need to be at slightly too low a dose to get them to produce their top-up.

    Some people have said that they had an awful time from about 7 down to 4 and then suddenly it improved. Some doctors suggest alternating two doses so you can function and stimulate the adrenal function - one lady on another forum is doing 4 and 4.5mg on alternate days and it seems to be helping her.

    I suppose it depends on how much you need to function and can't. I got to 4.5mg and was absolutely flattened! Or so I thought until I tried methotrexate for a month when the fatigue was like nothing I'd ever met before!

    It's funny how often predict is the offering for pred from predictive text!!!!

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      hey eileen, i think i read about that alternating plan too. but thought you werent supposed to yo-yo??? that even 1/2 mg makes a huge difference--i can attest to that! i actuslly thought about starting that this morning, funny that you mention it. thanks!

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      Hi Eileen. I am so relieved to hear you had incredible fatigue whilst on methotrexate. I was on it for 3 months, it did nothing in terms of a steroid sparer but the FATIGUE was awful. I am so relieved to have stopped it and am already feeling a a lot more energy.

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      Yo-yoing is different - that is when you overshoot the dose you need so the symptoms come back and you go to a higher dose to manage it and taper again - repeatedly. Down, flare, up, down, flare, up, down flare ... Alternating between 2 doses that are both enough to manage the symptoms is fine.

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      My comment thanking Helen was meant to recognize Eileen. She is great resource and does it with knowledge and experience.

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    I had the most dreadful fatigue at 5mg. My GP suggested I upped to 6mg to try and improve the fatigue and hang around at that level until it improved. Then drop again.

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      thanks. how long did that take you before you were able to drop again? i know we are all different, but still interested in others' journey.

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    i add I have no PMR pain to speak of and I am doing careful PT. It makes sense that the adrenals need to be stimulated by a dose slightly lower than needed since the endocrine system relies in a feedback mechanism.

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    I am down to 7 mg. extremely tired all the time. By 3 pm i have to lay down for a nap. last month my esr was 4 xs higher this month 3xs higher. doc says reduce steroids after 1 month. I have blood tests each month. she wants me to call her each month after blood tests to go over my numbers. methotrexate has helped with the pain.

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      Methotrexate made me extremely tired so I stopped after 3 months. I have since read it's not considered that effective in treating PMR. But we are all different...

      All the best with finding the right solutions. We are all walking this together and that helps SO much.

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