My Experience - 7 Weeks After Nhs Halo And Haemorrhoidectomy
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I am a 49-year old male and had stage 3 piles for about 5 years. They never really caused me any pain or suffering per se but were an inconvenience. I had been to my GP ages ago to make sure it wasn't anything serious. Towards the end of 2009 I decided to see what options I might have for sorting them out as I figured I wouldn't want them to get worse and despite being fit and healthy and eating well, they had not gone away of my own accord.
I went to my GP and she did a digital exam and said they were very small - didn't seem like it to me - she said she could refer me if I wanted but I declined. A few weeks later I figured I was copping out and returned to get a referral. I went to see a consultant locally who got me to come back for banding. This was very easy and though it was a bit uncomfortable I was optimistic that it would sort it all out. It didn't - even though it seemed like it would work it in fact made no difference whatsoever. I returned to him and he said he would try the schlerotherapy and another banding as they were quite big and the portable banding machine wasn't up to it. Again nothing really changed.
I read all these forums and was in two minds like so many others whether to pursue it any more. After all I was not in pain per se and clearly some people have really awful experiences, sometimes made worse by the tteatment - I knew I certainly didn't want anything slicing off! I read up what I could about HALO but it seemed to be mainly sales pitch. I decided to see the consultant again and ask him about it. He said he didn't know anything about it but his next step would be banding under GA and he was confident that would do it.
For one reason or another I wasn't convinced and so I called the HALO people and found out where there was locally that did it. They also told me how much it would cost privately (?3k+) but that with a referral I could probably get it on the NHS. A few weeks later I had a session with a consultant who explained the whole thing - also diagnosing a polyp as well as piles - which would never have responded to banding so I was glad to have taken the 2nd opinion. Anyway he put me on the waiting list for a polyp exision and possible HALO.
Time came around in about 6 weeks and I went into hospital for the first time in my life to have day surgery. I was apprehensive but quite positive. The whole experience was very reassuring - the staff were great and I felt very cared for and the surgeon was friendly and explained things. I signed on the dotted line, had my pre-med and felt the curtains close
Woke up feeling fine about 30 mins later. The surgeon explained to my surprise and a bit of shock that they had had to cut a large pile off so I might have a longer recovery time than expected (he had said at least 2 weeks for HALO and up to 10 for pilectomy). That concerned me a bit, espceially when the nurse brought my meds to take home - 3 types of opioid painkiller, 2 types of laxative and some antibiotics. I got the impression they were trying to tell me something. I stayed about 2 hours to satisfy them I'd had a wee, eaten and drunk some fluids etc and got my wife to pick me up.
Felt pretty OK generally even with after effects of the GA - ate and drank lightly and feared the first pooh which came 2 days after the op. Uncomfortable certainly but not especially painful. The absolute best thing after each BM was a nice warm shower spray for a few minutes which really soothed the bruised feeling. This got better over the next 7 to 10 days. I work from home so was fortunate that I didn't need to take time off per se after the first day getting my head clearer but I wouldn't have wanted to have to commute or be away from home.
There were some bad bits but not what I would have expected. The worst bit by far, and it was _horrible_ was the antibiotic (metronidazole)- I had to take it for 5 days and didn't realise what a nasty drug it is (check it out on ****)- around day 3 I was finding alternate nights of complete insomnia, nausea, sweating and a really depressing state of mind feeling like I would never get better. I googled all the meds and realised it was the AB and that these were fairly common side-effects. If I had had a longer run of them I would have asked to change but I figured I would see them out. It was awful and I did have another day off cos I just felt so damn bad from them. My advice here - don't just take what is given to you and not check it out - be aware of what has been prescribed (in fairness they did say thatsome of the meds could give nausea, constipation etc but I didn't expect this one to be so heavy).
The other downside was the laxative - I should have had clearer instructions. You definitely want to make sure you have soft stools etc and are acutely aware that what you eat has to come out the other end - soups, bran flakes, porridge etc are great for this. However if you just take teh laxatives as prescribed - and you are not already constipated (I am always regular)- then they will just play havoc and have you very windy (which also seems to come from the GA gases) and farting all the time with a sore anus is quite painful/uncomfortable in itself (esp if you're not too sure what might be coming down the pipes!) It kept me awake a bit.
What I should have thought with the meds from teh starts is - take them /if/ needed (except see below)
So I had been prescribed metronidazole as mentioned - I took that for the 5 days. I had 3 painkillers - Tramadol which I didn't bother taking, Codrydamol, I took a couple but then didn't bother (and my wife used them all up on migraines!) and Diclofenac - this last one I should have taken all the time but didn't. It is an anti-inflammatory and because I didn't bother with it I think I put myself back a couple days with a very sore and inflamed bottom - so this one I would say take as a matter of course (and I didn't have any side effects). For laxatives I had lactulose syrup and ispagel husks - both are palatable enough but as above I realised after a coupe of days that I probably didn't need them.
All told I was not incapacitated at all. It took a good week to not be too worried about the next BM. After that it just was a process of it getting better every day. The main thing was that the prolapsing piles/polyp were gone and that was a great relief. Had a check up last week and I would say I now feel 100% down there and no concerns at all.
I am very pleased I went ahead with it - I had overcome embarrassment about it ages ago and plain speaking is all that is needed - my reticence had been around being \"operated\" on but that all went very smoothly. I know there are some horror stories on here where people say that the op is worse than the piles but I am sure that complications are in the minority and I would not hesitate in recommending anyone suffering and holding back, check out a good consultant and have it all sorted out. I was glad I had it sorted out when I was fit and in good shape - I think that plays a big part in making the op run smoothly and the caring for oneself that much easier. If was old, infirm or very overweight I think it would be harder. Weight wise I had lost nearly 3 stone over the last 18 months and again I think that helped keep recuperation short.
If, and I hope they don't, recur then I would happily go down the same route again. I hope this story helps others.
Mr Relieved of Surrey
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grace1982
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The cream my G.P prescribed as I mentioned in my previous post is called ANUGESIC HC CREAM 30g. Its excellent as it numbs your bottom, I put it on about 30 minutes before I move my bowels and I would strongly recommend having a salt bath ready to jump into after you have had a BM as it really helps the painful spasms after you have had a BM. I used to sit in the bath for 45 minutes for the first 3/4 weeks post op. I still use the cream and salt bath and I'm 5 weeks post op tomorrow. As for the pain, I am getting better now and no longer dread going to the toilet, for the first 3/4 weeks I was crying with dread at moving my bowels. It didn't help that I became severely constipated shortly after the op but I've got through it and you will too hun.
I had 2 large hemorrhoids removed and also an abscess in my groin which compared to the hemorrhoids was nothing pain wise and the groin wound was being cleaned out and packed daily for 4 weeks!
Hope the cream works for you Lara and try the salt baths, let me know how you get on.
Hope everyone is improving and coping with the dreaded BM's!!!
Grace xx
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amanda31789
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I had a pretty nasty experience yesterday morning; an explosive attack of the runs. Like others have mentioned, I was prescribed lactulose solution even though I am lactose intolerant! Hello!! Spoke to the G.P. and she said only use if really needed. The difficulty with all this seems to me to get the stools just right! Too soft, and I'll be causing the anal canal to heal up in a 'scarred and narrow state' according to my notes from the hospital, therefore ripping my insides in two later on, when everything calms down, and the inevitable constipation comes back. Not soft enough and I'll be in agony now, and since by bum looks like I've been in the ring with Mike Tyson, I can't really imagine anything worse!
I have IBS, I am pretty sure I should avoid wheat, maybe also sensitive to starchy foods (carbs) and yeast. So basically I need to eat a very careful diet to have healthy B.M. and I find it really tough to stick to it long term.
I have children and lots of temptation all around me to eat the things I know make me ill yet I love them so much. I know why I am in this mess, it is simply a lack of determination and a weak willpower. Now that I am (trying to)sitting here, writing this, I realise that if I don't sort it out, I'll continue down the road to colon cancer and other very serious illnesses.
Any advice at this time would be greatly appreciated, as I am feeling rather fed up, I miss my little boy and just want to get well quick!
Mandy
lara35299
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I had my op nearly 4 weeks ago now and my bowels are still not right. I have been off laxatives for 4 days now and am finding I am not quite so regular as I was, when I was on the, they are a lot firmer tho. I am finding my bm are still quite long and small, I can't seem to go like I used too which is a little worrying! Just hope it improves. It's still quite sore when I go now as didn't really notice it when they were softer. I also have ibs and I never seem to get it right, it's always one way or the other! You sound like your coping quite well, I did get constipated in the beginning which was agony for about 6 days, didn't know what to do with myself, spent half my life in the bath. I couldn't look after the children properly for about 8 days. I eventually managed to drive comfortably after 2 weeks but sure it differs for others. Movical was very good for me.
It's a horrible thing to go through, would never do it again if I knew what to expect.
Keep us posted Lara xx
amanda31789
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Thanks for your reply.
Did your hospital explain much? Apart from the notes I was given at my pre-op assessment, I got no practical advice at all. Just sent home with medication. It seems like a big challenge for everybody, getting the BM's the right size and shape. Also a high fibre diet could be detrimental to some people and actually cause constipation! I know it isn't the reason everybody with piles gets them, but diet and lifestyle has to come into it. My hospital offered me a sandwich after the op but I declined; bread is one of the worst culprits for me. I had one of those Eat Natural nut and fruit bars instead, and after such a long time without food it tasted great!
So you got constipated early on? I am concerned that lack of mobility will slow my system down. I try to get up and move about regularly; standing for too long hurts as does sitting - so laying down, mostly... It could become a catch 22 situation of needing codeine for the pain following a painful BM, thus getting more constipated, thus needing more laxatives!!! This forum is the first place I have looked. I really hope I don't end up in more of a mess than I was before.
The problem I have found with laxatives over the years is they tend to make your bowels really lazy. I was having trouble with sluggish bowels, esp. when it's that 'time of the month', almost as if my body can't concentrate on more than one thing at a time. I have come to the conclusion that when I am following a really healthy, low carb, low fat, low sugar diet, I am much better, but I have to push myself to drink enough and when I am busy I just forget to drink. All things I have to work on.
My son is staying elsewhere for the time being. I need to be able to drive to get him to school and I know I'd find it impossible to cope with him right now, esp. as he has some autistic tendencies and can be a handful!
I can't help wondering if I have made a big mistake, but I guess only time will tell.
Thanks for your reply, it feels better to know I am not alone!
Mandy xx
lara35299
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I got exactly the same as you the"notes" nothing else. Seems like your just left alone to get on with it, we are not the only ones tho, seems as tho everybody gets the same.
It will get better honestly, I def felt a lot better after about 8 -10 days tho still uncomfortable for a bit after, even now if I move funny it hurts especially getting in and out car, remember to lift your bum up rather than slide across!!
I wore pads for about 31/2 weeks as had slight leakage but seems to be improving.
Remember lots of hot baths with salt, really does help!
Got my outpatients appt in 3 weeks so will ask lots of questions.
Am back to work Monday so hoping will be ok as like to be near the toilet!
Take care, keep me posted Lara xx
shaz3458
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I'm still off work!! Still not back to normal !! It's been 11 weeks and 2 operations now!!
I have been told by my GP to keep taking laxatives because when I stop it only takes 2 days and I'm very
constipated. She has advised me to take half a sachet of laxido every night. Sometimes this works and
Sometimes it doesn't.
I have found that bran is an absolute no-no !! Too much fibre causes all sorts of problems, it makes you need to go about 4-5 times a day and if you are like me, the pain sets in afterwards and is awful.
I still have no bowel control and hate leaving the house. I only take paracetamol now when the pain is too bad
So it must be getting a bit better.
All you can do is take each day at a time, don't overdo it, no lifting etc as this can cause you to strain.
Lots of salt baths and try to rest when you can.
I am doing a lot more around the house now and I'm going to start going for walks to try and build myself up.
I also find that small, light meals are easier to pass thro than big dinners.
It's a nightmare.. One day something will work, then the next day it doesn't.
Don't expect to be back to normal for quite a while, others say it takes around 4-6 weeks, at least!!!
Mine has taken longer because of extra complications.. Good luck x
amanda31789
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Sorry to hear you are having such a long recovery. I just wish there had been more help with all my IBS related problems earlier on. Prob would not be in this mess now!
I shall keep you all informed of my recovery, better than a diary!
Mandy x
grace1982
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I have been reading all of your posts and I can totally understand how distressing the post op problems are. I am now 7 weeks post op and I have finally got back to normal. The leakage I mentioned in an earlier post has thankfully stopped and I am now controlling my BMs with laxatives, this is because my bowel is lazy due to being on morphine for the last four years. Getting the balance is very tricky, I still find it hard to get my BM just 'right'. I am no longer in pain after going to the toilet but I have become a little obsessed in making sure I move my bowels daily as I am frightened of becoming impacted again! I continue with the high fibre diet, I did some research into the 'correct' type of fibre foods as there are two types, as mentioned in above posts, certain fibre foods cause constipation! Its well worth investigating this if your struggling. Lara mentions her BMs are small and long, this sounds like a condition called anal stenosis which, I think, is scarring inside the bottom causing the BM to be long and thin.
Hope everyone is recovering, it does get better although it dosen't feel that way at the beginning of post op.
Grace xx
john94613 grace1982
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shaz3458
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I'm really glad you are feeling better.
I'm very interested to find out more about these high fibre foods. Can you tell me which ones are the good
ones
And which ones can cause constipation.
I think I've got this stenosis too as that describes my bm's,.
I'm now going to have a look and see what I can find out.
Thank you very much, your comments are very interesting.
Take care
From
Shaz xx
shaz3458
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I've just been having a read online about fibre foods that can cause constipation. It's really interesting,
There is a lot of information about foods that will make ibs worse.
I've written 2 lists of foods to help constipation and foods to avoid, which can make matters worse.
For people going through what we are all going through, every bit of info helps.
I shall take my list with me when I go shopping to remind me of what not to buy.
Unfortunately chocolate is on my avoid list... !!
Shaz x
amanda31789
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My notes from pre-op assessment mentioned how it is important to have 'formed stools' and avoid loose watery stools because the anal canal can heal up in a scarred and narrow state. I wonder if it is best to eat the type of fibre that bulks up the stools, making them soft, yet of a size that is normal? Normal size (diameter) to me, would probably be something the thickness of a large carrot? I am much better eating lots of veg, always have been, and fruit (although I read somewhere else that it's best to avoid citrus fruit for a while, maybe because it is acidic?)
I read about a lady in Germany who was kept in for 5 days on a liquid diet of fruit and veg juices and water. She seemed to have a pretty good recovery but I wonder what size her stools were? Maybe I'll ask! This is all a minefield. Personally, I have been sticking to very small meals, consisting of fruit, veg, a little chicken and one small portion of carbohydrate a day e.g. half a jacket spud, 45g rice, a few oatcakes, a small bowl of porridge oats... I am definitely a fan of wholegrain rice and find pasta and bread are terrible for slowing things down.
Today is day 3 of my recovery (op on Monday p.m.) so still early days. I am finding I want to have a B.M. 3 times; and only after the 3rd do I feel 'empty' and that bearing down feeling goes away. Just to top it all off, I now have my monthly cycle to deal with so I intend to increase my Movicol sachets just in case I get constipated. I think I'd rather have soft, long thin B.M's than suffer the hell of a hard stool!
Thanks to all for your comments, it's cheering me up to know there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Mandy
grace1982
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I am glad Shaz has found out which fibre foods are 'good' and 'bad', I too was gutted to discover my beloved chocolate was on the list,I love my chocolate! The foods that most experts say we should avoid are red meat, dairy products, caffeine and white flour foods. Increasing your fibre intake suddenly can cause constipation as the body does not have time to adjust,thus causing constipation,cramping and bloating or diarrhea. Also, increasing your fibre without increasing your fluid intake can cause constipation as your body draws fluids from your gut. There are two types of fibre: soluble and insoluble. Soluble fibre draws fluids from your intestines which slows down digestion, soluble fibre foods include: oats,bran,some fruits,lentils,beans and nuts.
Insoluble fibre is considered gut friendly as they have a mild laxitive effect as they add bulk to your diet helping to prevent constipation, insoluble fibre foods include: wholemeal produce, such as brown bread,rice and pasta, cabbage,carrots,green beans,dark leafy greens,broccoli,raisins,some fruit,cucumber,onions,tomatoes,root vegetables.
Insoluble fibre foods act like a sponge,they soak up fluid and travel easily through your gut, they have been proved to be an effective treatment for both constipation and IBS. To prevent constipation it is recommended that your diet should consist of approx 70% insoluble and 30% soluble fibre with an increase in fluids, try to drink 2 to 3 pints a day. Experts debate whether tea and decaff coffee can be included in the fluid intake. Most foods contains a combination of soluble and insoluble fibre, for example, an apples skin is insoluble and its flesh is soluble. I think it really is trial and error in finding a good balance, its bloody hard! As everyone is different, and some people on here suffer from IBS so I cant imagine how difficult it is for them. Being mobile also really helps but I realise that sometimes that is not always possible. When I was not mobile I found that squatting on the bathroom floor for about ten minutes before getting on the toilet helped. People who squat over toilets in the ground in some countries(I think India is one) very rarley suffer digestive problems as squatting is the body's natural position to open the bowel. Also try using a footstool/a pile of yellow pages to elevate your feet when sat on the loo. You could also try rubbing the left side of your tummy in a clockwise direction to stimulate your bowel.
Regarding Mandy's post about wanting to move her bowels three times before she feels empty, did you know its recommended that we sit on the toilet for at least fifteen minutes to allow the body to recognise
that the bowels need to be moved. It might be an idea to speak to your GP about trying a suppository to see if that helps you to empty your bowels in one go. Also, you mention having hellish hard stools, I had them early on post op and I know the agony they cause. I'm just wondering if you are having enough laxatives, you mention movicol, how many sachets are you having and at what time? It will get better, I know your only 4 days post op but there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel.
I hope everyone is continuing to keep strong and battling through the pain,
Love Grace xxx
an67778 grace1982
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I have been reading all this and I know its been a while now, but I am wondering and hoping that everyone now in a perfect conditions after your ops???
I am having my surgery next week to remove 2nd degree haemmorhoid and skin tag
and I've been reading a lot on this forum which I found really informatif.Â
but everyone who writes here mostly share how painful was the recovery... and eventually get less and less...
but does anyone now very happy with the results after months or even years???
is the "back there" looking as it was before the hemorrhoid?
because I am more concern about my skin tag than the haemmorhoid it self at this point, as my hemmorhoid doesnt give me any discomfort, no bleeding or anything, its just there.
like i said my skin tag really does bothers me.
I am really hoping that someone will reply to my post. And really hope that everyone is happy now with the result of the surgery...
Thanks everyone.....xxx
Ouchies an67778
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How did your surgery go? I'm booked in for mine next week and just starting panic. I'm mostly panicking that they won't get all of it as it seems to come and go and also I'm worried about the pain afterward.
Thanks.
mia54105 Ouchies
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Pior to having my piles Halo-ed I had a colonoscopy which is when they use a camera to look at rectum and bowel and instines they found no piles just a Ployp that they removes two months later my problems started again I went back and was told I had a proplasped pile they operated a week later I think unless they are swollen up or proplasped at the examination they can't get them all
I think I either have a new pile or a existing one that wasn't caught as well sometimes I feel something hanging down when I stand for two long I had the operation 6 weeks ago
Good luck the only thing I will recommend is laxatives for afterwards as hard stools hurt and make u bleed it's a slow slow recovery I'm still on the mend 6 weeks later I have to be careful not to get constipated as last time it hurt like glass shard and made me lightly spot bleed 😔
Little_Miss_RC Ouchies
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I had the Halo procedure in May and this is what I wrote following my op:
HALO Operation – My Experience (NHS)
I am a female who has suffered from painful internal haemorrhoids for over 20 years (since the birth of my 2nd child). I tried all kinds of bought and prescription remedies but the haemorrhoids always came back – usually at the most inconvenient times. Most GP’s I saw were not very sympathetic as the they were internal and they were reluctant to look properly. Finally, after a particularly bad episode when the haemorrhoids had prolapsed and the whole area was covered with tiny painful blisters, I was referred to a colorectal surgeon. The surgeon said I was a prime candidate for the HALO procedure. I am writing this because I spent ages looking for information and deliberating whether or not to go ahead with the procedure. I had to be at the hospital (NHS) by 7.00 on the day of the operation and was admitted to a ward. I was given all the usual checks and issued with compression stockings which came up to my knees. The anaesthetist came to see me and then the surgeon who explained the procedure to me again and I signed to go ahead. I thought I would be given a GA but due to allergies I was advised to have a spinal anaesthetic. Inserting the cannula into my hand was extremely painful but the needle in my spine was not as painful. After the entire bottom section of my body was numb, I was wheeled into the operating theatre. My legs were lifted into stirrups – that was odd as I couldn’t feel my legs – they looked like plastic legs that didn’t belong to me. There was a screen across the lower part of my body and the operation began, I was conscious the whole time but didn’t feel anything. The operation lasted about 30 minutes and I was told 8 arteries had been ligated. The surgeon said I had a gel plug inserted and not to panic when it came out when I opened my bowels – it would be red with blood. I was then taken to recovery and given a cup of tea, monitored for bleeding from my spine and then taken to the ward. I had to wait for the feeling to come back to the lower part of my body – this actually took 3 hours 30 minutes. I had intermittent pneumatic compression devices (pumps) on both legs during this time to reduce the risk of clots. I was given some food at lunch time and plenty of tea and water. When I could feel my legs I was encouraged to get out of bed and walk to the toilet, with help. I found it painful to empty my bladder and I also felt the urge to open my bowels, at this point the red gel plug came out. I discovered I had been given netting pants and a pad was in place, I struggled back to my bed. A pharmacist came to see me and told me I would be given tramadol pain relief to take home. The pain began, I was in agony, I was given 1 tramadol, then another but it didn’t touch the pain. I was told I may have to have morphine but then would have to stay in hospital over night. I had taken some of my own paracetamol with me and the nurse said I could take them with the tramadol. The pain began to subside and I was given some food and told I could go home. My operation started at 9.30 and I left the hospital at 19.00 – I had someone to collect me. Halfway home I suddenly felt sick and vomited in the car. I went straight to bed when I got home. I vomited after every cup of tea, pain relief tablet and eventually after every sip of water. I didn’t know whether to have another tablet as I didn’t know what had been absorbed in my body. I went to the toilet and was trying to empty my bladder, open my bowels and vomit all at the same time – apparently I looked grey. I did manage to sleep a bit on and off and the next morning I ate some porridge and kept it down. The pain was excruciating, I felt like I was having intense contractions up my bottom and my stomach hurt too. I stopped taking tramadol and stuck to paracetamol and also had lactulose once a day. I stayed in bed for the next 3 days, only getting up to use the toilet and soak in a warm bath each day – that gave some relief. I ate my meals in bed, making sure I had plenty of fibre and drinks. The dreaded first proper bowel opening came on day 3 – it can only be described as agony but very little blood. Every bowel movement after that was painful and it also hurt to empty my bladder – like cystitis, this went on for almost 2 weeks. Now its day 19 and things are settling down, bowel movements are still painful but I feel much better. I would say, despite it saying you will be fit for work after 48 hours on all the marketing info; you definitely need at least a week off work and it is definitely not a pain free operation! I have been off work for 2 weeks now and my GP has signed me off for another 2 weeks. I hope this description helps anyone out there thinking of having the HALO procedure and looking for information.
It is now 8 months later and I am fine and so glad I had it done. Don't panic - it isn't a pleasant experience but it will be worth it.
Good luck - I hope it goes well.Â
mia54105 Little_Miss_RC
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Today I went to the loo 3 times since this operation I pass BM once a day instead of once every two or three weeks is this common side effect?
I don't want to pass BM to much as I'm scared of deal getting new piles I haven't had any problems since Christmas Day I hope that's it now .
Best,
Little_Miss_RC mia54105
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mia54105 Little_Miss_RC
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Thank you so much for your help and ongoing support with my issue's I feel like I'm this forum it's the only people that understand.
Every day I don't have any problems I'm so thankful I hope one day my anxiety will stop I was so scared.
I have my final appointment on the 15 th Feb I hope I'm fixed and fully healed by then
Today was okay normal toilet no concerns !
Ouchies mia54105
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I'm glad you are starting to feel better. I'm booked in for surgery on Tuesday and I'm really nervous about the pain.
Even anyone saying it is worth it is also saying it was agony, I had one banded and I was in a lot of pain for 24 hours when they said it shouldn't hurt. I had a significant (sorry) BM directly following the procedure though so I wonder if that exasperated it.
Ouchies
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I'm doing lots of research on aftercare and I'm eating plenty of flax seed in homemade spinach and fruit smoothies. I'm also trying to increase my water in take.
I'm still torn though, between getting dehydrated to make it as bad as possible for the surgery to make sure it is all showing and gets treated on the day and getting really hydrated and well to ease recovery.
I just want to try and give myself the best chance of only having to do this once and getting a good result.
My husband and I want to start a family and I don't want the pain and pressure to hinder pregnancy. I'm also not sure how long I need to wait before I start trying.
Glad to hear from you and I'm sure you'll hear more from me too.
Thanks Little Miss RC for your words too. I'm glad you think it is still worth it even with the pain you had.
xxx
mia54105 Ouchies
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I'm only 6 weeks past HALO it was painful for the first few days but the painkiller they give u is so strong it really does numb any pain.
The antibiotic's made me throw up I developed a serve infection a week after surgery and was rushed to A and E as I was bleeding a lot the infection took three weeks to clear
I feel better now however I have really bad wind and more frequent BM the doctor told me this is fine I've had one spot bleeding incident since the infection cleared on Christmas Day
I had to have mine done as I was bleeding a lot after BM
I hope this helps and I hope my piles have gone I have a follow up on the 15 th of Feb
mia54105
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Before I was operated on I had two weeks of no bleeding I was pretty sure the would find nothing on examination however the found the grade two prolapse pile they think this is where the bleeding started to come from.
I am still worried and check 100's time after every BM that there r no symptoms I really think I've become OCD with them it's been a scary 6 months not know what was wrong having a colonoscopy I'm now just taking every pain free blood free BM as a gift from god I can't wait for it to b 6 months with no problems I will have so much gratitude for this feeling and never miss treat my bowels again with considpation and you laxatives with great care speak soon
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Today I went to the loo and guess what ! Bright red blood on the toilet paper I've had a colonoscopy so know it's nothing dangerous but why am I still bleeding after bowel movement it's been two months since surgery I'm s depressed and crying again I don't know if it's piles on the outside and I've rubbed to hard and made them bleed I'm so upset 😢 my check up is not until the 15 th feb
sorebutt mia54105
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 I have had one for years which just wont go , but compared to the bleeding that has been coming from a bursting haemorrhoid its quite insignificant . Best way to deal with it , is after you clean up after toilet , press on a piece of toilet paper and clench it tight between your cheeks for 60 seconds , then just get on with your day .Â
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mia54105 sorebutt
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I had my check up last Monday my doctor said I was healed up nicely and pile free the following day I did a poo it was kind of hard there was so much blood 😥 I got a mirror and had a look cause I could feel something in my bum hole there was a massive pink peace of circular skin just hanging there ! I showed my mum she said it was an external pile since then I have tried every cream going it won't go down I'm so upset and sick of having them I will ask for another referral the bleeding is so frightening I really can't live like this anymore😩
I have tried drinking two liters of water a day taking laxatives and lactose to keep my poo soft fiver supplements horse chestnut red vine leaf vitamin c flavonoids going vegetarian and vegan nothing works I feel drained and sick I've been crying for days my main fear is that the blood is something else bad but I've had a colonoscopy and biopsy which was fine what can I do now , I was going to book for a anal std test I have never had anal sex but I don't know what all this bleeding could be please any advise would be much appreciated im so stressed and scared .
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sorebutt mia54105
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 I too felt a foreign object in my back passage which I felt was stopping me from going to the toilet properly. I felt so blocked , sore during the toilet , but even more sore afterwards . On wednesday I was at the toilet 10 times in the day , each time passing very little . On thursday I was there 13 times , again passing little drops and still having that pressure feeling that I was needing to poo very badly . On the friday I never went to the toilet until noon , and when i did , I passed something that wasnt poo . It was like a great big piece of flesh over 4 inches long , followed by a smaller piece which had traces of blood . Basicially it looked like something which had been torn off from somewhere in my lower bowel . Since then my bowel movements have been much better but the amount of blood has increased .I still do feel like there is still something in there restricting me , although it does not seem as big now . As you wil see from my other reply to you , I think I may have had the wrong procedure , but wont know until the 29th , when I go back into theatre .
 Like you , I also have an external pile since my op , something I never had before I went for surgery , although have had this 3 or 4 times over the last 10 years . Everybody has a different take on how to deal with them , and other peoples methods might not work for you . I always try to keep it clean , and use the ointments . But what I have found is by keeping my backside squeezed reasonably tight ( uncomfortable and slightly sore ) , it does stop it from filling up with even more blood and getting bigger and even sorer .
 Keep your chin up Mia , but more importantly insist they check you out and re-look at your pain killers .Â
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mia54105 sorebutt
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My doctor says he can't see a fissure ?, can I have one without it being visible ?
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Meow can I get a definite diagnoses I'm really stressed and upset at the moment 😩😩
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So on Saturday I'd been considapated for about a week I had a really painful bowel movement along with blood do u think the surgeons could of missed something I'm worried that I actually don't have piles because I had a colonoscopy and the Halo when I feel inside I can feel a lump I'm thinking to go to the hospital in the week
Ouchies mia54105
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I'm also still bleeding if I get constipated. All I can suggest is that you really keep going with your supplements of probiotics, soluble fibre (flax seed) and drink plenty of water and eat lots of fruit and veg.
I can also feel small lumps when I'm dehydrated or a little contipated but I assume this is a pucker that swells from where the stitches were.
If you're worried, it's best to go and get checked out but the fact that this has happened after getting constipated makes me think the two are connected.
Make your appointment but fluid and fibre up to see if it reduces.
I'm also trying to decide if I should try and go back for a checkup so they can make sure it's all gone. I really hope it is.
Good luck.
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Ouchies sorebutt
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Hope you're ok.
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mia54105 Ouchies
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How many weeks/months past op are you?
Best Mia
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