My Experience - 7 Weeks After Nhs Halo And Haemorrhoidectomy
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I am a 49-year old male and had stage 3 piles for about 5 years. They never really caused me any pain or suffering per se but were an inconvenience. I had been to my GP ages ago to make sure it wasn't anything serious. Towards the end of 2009 I decided to see what options I might have for sorting them out as I figured I wouldn't want them to get worse and despite being fit and healthy and eating well, they had not gone away of my own accord.
I went to my GP and she did a digital exam and said they were very small - didn't seem like it to me - she said she could refer me if I wanted but I declined. A few weeks later I figured I was copping out and returned to get a referral. I went to see a consultant locally who got me to come back for banding. This was very easy and though it was a bit uncomfortable I was optimistic that it would sort it all out. It didn't - even though it seemed like it would work it in fact made no difference whatsoever. I returned to him and he said he would try the schlerotherapy and another banding as they were quite big and the portable banding machine wasn't up to it. Again nothing really changed.
I read all these forums and was in two minds like so many others whether to pursue it any more. After all I was not in pain per se and clearly some people have really awful experiences, sometimes made worse by the tteatment - I knew I certainly didn't want anything slicing off! I read up what I could about HALO but it seemed to be mainly sales pitch. I decided to see the consultant again and ask him about it. He said he didn't know anything about it but his next step would be banding under GA and he was confident that would do it.
For one reason or another I wasn't convinced and so I called the HALO people and found out where there was locally that did it. They also told me how much it would cost privately (?3k+) but that with a referral I could probably get it on the NHS. A few weeks later I had a session with a consultant who explained the whole thing - also diagnosing a polyp as well as piles - which would never have responded to banding so I was glad to have taken the 2nd opinion. Anyway he put me on the waiting list for a polyp exision and possible HALO.
Time came around in about 6 weeks and I went into hospital for the first time in my life to have day surgery. I was apprehensive but quite positive. The whole experience was very reassuring - the staff were great and I felt very cared for and the surgeon was friendly and explained things. I signed on the dotted line, had my pre-med and felt the curtains close
Woke up feeling fine about 30 mins later. The surgeon explained to my surprise and a bit of shock that they had had to cut a large pile off so I might have a longer recovery time than expected (he had said at least 2 weeks for HALO and up to 10 for pilectomy). That concerned me a bit, espceially when the nurse brought my meds to take home - 3 types of opioid painkiller, 2 types of laxative and some antibiotics. I got the impression they were trying to tell me something. I stayed about 2 hours to satisfy them I'd had a wee, eaten and drunk some fluids etc and got my wife to pick me up.
Felt pretty OK generally even with after effects of the GA - ate and drank lightly and feared the first pooh which came 2 days after the op. Uncomfortable certainly but not especially painful. The absolute best thing after each BM was a nice warm shower spray for a few minutes which really soothed the bruised feeling. This got better over the next 7 to 10 days. I work from home so was fortunate that I didn't need to take time off per se after the first day getting my head clearer but I wouldn't have wanted to have to commute or be away from home.
There were some bad bits but not what I would have expected. The worst bit by far, and it was _horrible_ was the antibiotic (metronidazole)- I had to take it for 5 days and didn't realise what a nasty drug it is (check it out on ****)- around day 3 I was finding alternate nights of complete insomnia, nausea, sweating and a really depressing state of mind feeling like I would never get better. I googled all the meds and realised it was the AB and that these were fairly common side-effects. If I had had a longer run of them I would have asked to change but I figured I would see them out. It was awful and I did have another day off cos I just felt so damn bad from them. My advice here - don't just take what is given to you and not check it out - be aware of what has been prescribed (in fairness they did say thatsome of the meds could give nausea, constipation etc but I didn't expect this one to be so heavy).
The other downside was the laxative - I should have had clearer instructions. You definitely want to make sure you have soft stools etc and are acutely aware that what you eat has to come out the other end - soups, bran flakes, porridge etc are great for this. However if you just take teh laxatives as prescribed - and you are not already constipated (I am always regular)- then they will just play havoc and have you very windy (which also seems to come from the GA gases) and farting all the time with a sore anus is quite painful/uncomfortable in itself (esp if you're not too sure what might be coming down the pipes!) It kept me awake a bit.
What I should have thought with the meds from teh starts is - take them /if/ needed (except see below)
So I had been prescribed metronidazole as mentioned - I took that for the 5 days. I had 3 painkillers - Tramadol which I didn't bother taking, Codrydamol, I took a couple but then didn't bother (and my wife used them all up on migraines!) and Diclofenac - this last one I should have taken all the time but didn't. It is an anti-inflammatory and because I didn't bother with it I think I put myself back a couple days with a very sore and inflamed bottom - so this one I would say take as a matter of course (and I didn't have any side effects). For laxatives I had lactulose syrup and ispagel husks - both are palatable enough but as above I realised after a coupe of days that I probably didn't need them.
All told I was not incapacitated at all. It took a good week to not be too worried about the next BM. After that it just was a process of it getting better every day. The main thing was that the prolapsing piles/polyp were gone and that was a great relief. Had a check up last week and I would say I now feel 100% down there and no concerns at all.
I am very pleased I went ahead with it - I had overcome embarrassment about it ages ago and plain speaking is all that is needed - my reticence had been around being \"operated\" on but that all went very smoothly. I know there are some horror stories on here where people say that the op is worse than the piles but I am sure that complications are in the minority and I would not hesitate in recommending anyone suffering and holding back, check out a good consultant and have it all sorted out. I was glad I had it sorted out when I was fit and in good shape - I think that plays a big part in making the op run smoothly and the caring for oneself that much easier. If was old, infirm or very overweight I think it would be harder. Weight wise I had lost nearly 3 stone over the last 18 months and again I think that helped keep recuperation short.
If, and I hope they don't, recur then I would happily go down the same route again. I hope this story helps others.
Mr Relieved of Surrey
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hemmy36412 Guest
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I am a 36 year female and try to exercise atleast 4 times a week.
I eat pretty healthy and drink 64+ Oz of water a day. Fruit/coffee for breakfast, Salads for lunch are a lifestyle to help maintain my weight and a normal dinner. Some days I eat out but for the most part I try to eat healthy something from home sun - thurs.
Five days before my surgery I took a tea laxative to get my system cleaned out. Surprisingly my doctor did not advise of any enemas or other pre op instructions.
The night before my surgery I had a salad with shrimp and wings (I wanted to eat something good). I also took ducolax and Metamucil.
SURGERY DAY - The next morning before my surgery I had 3 BMS, I was happy about that since I thought the wings may have been a bad idea.
They started me with IV, and gave me a Valium and a acid reflux pill and then I was off. The doctor advised I would be given general anesthesia during the surgery and a local anesthesia to the surgery site that would wear off in 2 - 3 days.
I woke up from the surgery almost in no pain. I thought it was odd but figured the anesthesia still was in my system. I was giving thumbs up to everyone thats how good i felt. Before I left the recovery room I urinated which again was surprising. They released me a few mins after. Surgery was at 9:30am I was out of the hospital by 11:15am.
We picked up my medicine docusate (stool softener), Diazepam (Valium), Tylenol and oxycodone for pain.
No real pain just discomfort and pressure on my anus. As soon as I got home I took the diazepam and Tylenol as prescribed (on each every 6 hours) the docusate (twice a day) oxycodone as needed.
I drank plenty of water and had a Kale salad with almonds and dried cranberries. For dinner I had chicken broth with fresh kale. I made my own meals and was able to get around just fine.
I laid down most of the day with a pillow under my hips and slept on and off.
I took a bath in the evening and laid a thick towel on the base of the tub for comfort. No BM today. I purchased a squatty potty to make the BM more cpmfortable.
Also there was a gauze in my anus that I was not to remove. The doctor advised it would dissolve or come out with my first bm.
DAY 2 - a little pain, but bareable. The feeling is similar to diarrhea and the discomfort you feel afterwards. Still taking medicine as prescribed. Today I had one does of Metamucil.
For breakfast I had soup with kale again and crackers, oatmeal for lunch, and kale and onions for dinner.
I took two bath today and had two false alarm BMs, it was just gas. Releasing gas was uncomfortable but barely, especially since the cloth was still in my anus.
I also used the diaper trick (filling a baby diaper with water and freezing) and applied that to my anus. It has a numbing effect and sooths the area.
DAY 3 - I woke up with the urge to have a BM and I felt this was the real one. I ran hot water in the tub and waited for it to happen. Surprisingly there was not a lot of pain, stingy and pressure, but my BM ( two) passed without too much effort. I did feel extremely weak afterwards and sat in the tub for a while.
After words I prepared
hemmy36412
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I Hit the reply button to quick.....
Afterwards I prepared oatmeal and took my meds and laid down. One last meal addition to day 2, I also ate breakfast flats by quaker.
I pray that my recovery continues this way. This experience and my first are totally different. Make sure you get a squatty potty. It helps, drink water and eat healthy. I'll post more as my recovery continues.
Thankfu1 hemmy36412
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Sorry you had to go thru 2 ops! So glad the 2nd was a success. Please may I ask who your doctor was and where you had the 2nd op done?
Thank you.
ilmm33 Guest
Posted
Hi all. I'm new to the forum today and wanted to share my story with the possibility of gaining some valuable advice along the way, please.
I had my hemorrhoidectomy six days ago. It was fine for the first 2 days but since that time ...things have gone worse. Yesterday night, I had a really tough time in the toilet ...agony and a lot of blood.
Today in the morning, I took a warm and salty bath. After that, I found that one of the stitches fall off. I found it on a baby wipe which I'm using to carefully clean myself up ...down there.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Does it mean that I have to have another operation?
sophie93828 Guest
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Writing on behalf of my mom as concerned she had piles and a prolapse she had piles took of and prolapse stables. She had first operation but didn't go to plan 4 days later had to have another emergency op then was in bad pain and had a lump inside so had to have another op to check. It's been a week and half and she don't no when she needs a poop it just passes threw did any1 else have this problem and she's worried invade they have damaged her bells. Please help
sophie93828 Guest
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My mom had piles and a prolapse she went into hospital had a operation piles took of and prolapse stapled. Then the first operation they messed up so they had to rush her back in 2 days later then a week after had to have another because they found a lump so she had 3 ops all together. Now she's in a lot of pain but she don't no when she's going the toilet I'm just wondering if any1 else poop there self after having this operation as she's worried and it
UKlady2017 Guest
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I had a HALO done 2 weeks and 3 days ago, I'm just concerned as yesterday and today it's been more uncomfortable inside and has even felt itchy inside. Last night I had a couple of sharp pains inside too. Do you think this is normal? I'm worried I've upset it somehow, at first it was really uncomfortable then it got a bit better and now it's got a bit worse again.
pidge83 UKlady2017
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My advice is to stick with it for another week or two. Mine was up and down for about a month. Thought it was fine, then loads of pain and blood, then fine again. I'm coming up to a year since the op now and the pain and discomfort and worrying for the first few weeks is well worth it in the long run!
UKlady2017 pidge83
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Ok thank you, just worrying for nothing probably. Thanks for the reassurance. I'll give it a few more weeks, it's probably early days. I was just worried I'd upset it somehow, I don't want to have gone through this for nothing.
pidge83 UKlady2017
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Worrying is normal I reckon! I rung the hospital a few times and they basically told me to hang in there. I don't think anyone really understands the effects of the HALO, it seems to just do what it wants for a few weeks. Hope it works out as well for you as it did for me in the end!
tankity_tank Guest
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Its a messy painful business, have lots of towels handy, lots of wipes, lots of pads, carry a plastic bag around the house with you for any surprise bowel movements, protect your bed, I used bins bags masking taped to mattress followed by old sheets/towels/ so that if some thing did happen when I was asleep I could relax knowing it was contained.
My advice is, pre op, go on a liquid diet, soups, hydrate as much as possible, buy a gell ice pack for your freezer, have loads of soup in the kitchen, loads of pain killers, wipes etc....... be prepared for the pain to kick in and also how low you can feel after a anesthetic.
Dadhairday Guest
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This post seems still to be high on Google searches so I thought I’d reply with a link to my own contrasting experiences:
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/halo-surgery-how-was-it-for-me--678261?page=0&utm_source=forum%2csendgrid&utm_campaign=comment-notification%2cPatient.info&utm_medium=email%2cemail#3341639
olivier54069 Guest
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hi there
thanks so much for the detailed overview.
I underwent the HALO RAR procedure 6 days ago and am beginning to have concerns
the pain is manageable both day to day and after BM but is still quite difficult to work/focus with
in regards to my condition, i had grade 3 which prolapsed on bm.
since, I have no prolapse on bm which is good, however on inspection it still appears to be a relatively significant pile near the outer anus which has not shrunk over the last few days
i wondered what your experience of this was? how long it took for the pile to shrink down/dissappear and if this should be a concern?
i have a follow up in 3 weeks but worried this may be too long without some check or reassurance
thanks
rob18418 Guest
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I'm not sure if this discussion is still ongoing, but I could use some help and guidance. I've read a lot about HALO hemorrhoid surgery, but have had great difficulty finding any location that might perform it here in the United States. Does anyone have any information about U.S.-based clinics/hospitals that offer HALO? I've suffered with grade 2/3 hemorrhoids for nearly seven years now; I had a total of nine banding procedures that never really gave any long-term benefit. I also never fully realized that having banding done that many times would create scar tissue that could pose an issue of its own. I stopped with banding more than a year ago and have been trying other things with the hope of fixing my problem (acupuncture, pelvic floor therapy, etc.) A surgeon suggested I was not a good candidate for standard hemorrhoidectomy, due to the amount of scar tissue I now have from the banding procedures. That leads me to wondering if HALO surgery might be my salvation but, again, I can't find it available anywhere in the U.S. If necessary, I'd certainly consider traveling to the U.K. for it, but after reading some of the accounts here, I understand that it's not as "quick and easy" a recovery as the clinics advertise it to be. I'd be very grateful for anyone's help to identify something here in the U.S. where I might investigate HALO. Thank you all.
D27146 Guest
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Hi everyone,
I had a Halo on Wednesday (5 days ago) and if I had known how bad the recovery would've been I wouldn't have had the op. Can I ask if anyone has experienced the haemorrhoids getting far worse externally after the op? It seems to me that rather than stem the flow of blood and killing them off, it has just made them far far worse, more swollen and aggravated them to the point where I struggle to have a bm. Thanks for any advice.