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Jr rite.. I have been in close encounters that I don't know how I am still here. As of today I'm not gonna be anywhere around alcohol. I know it's gonna make some of my family feel bad that I won't be attending reunions but that's how it always starts.  Someone gives me a drink and that's it I don't care about anyone anymore.. sounds crazy rite.. but what kind of help do I need.. I'm in los angeles ca someone said rehab but I need my job to pay rent etc. I am willing to listen to you all u said sounds very familiar..

The part where u said,"someone always hands me a drink"  ... At the reunion...does that mean they hold u down & force it down UR throat too!

Then u said ""someone said rehab" then the "BUT " NEGATES ANYTHING..then u need to pay rent..so r u saying no one else has to pay rent when in rehab? Some day u will not have to worry about paying rent al all..u continue with UR alcoholic behaviors . Sabotaging UR own life.. What a jerk! 

So how's all the excuses workin for ya? Any other way to negate or excuses or sabatoge UR life to keep sober now. 

My son is a full blown alcoholic in the last stages of liver and kidney disease.i know all the games alcoholics plays thinking they are smarter than everyone and winning the game to get that drink to the only path to hell! 

u know the drill alcohol tests when u go into rehab for work release programs they always do drug tests & alcohol tests when u return to rehab.. In LA county alone u have a vast number of resources. LA GENERAL will take u into their program on a LA minute! Or any other county in Ca.

So what's UR excuse or Any more Buts ?

Hi, I really think that you are being harsh on salp, I don't know why you have the idea that alcoholics think that they are smarter than anyone else, I have never met one yet that chose that path to addiction and for many alcoholics they are so wracked with guilt they drink to take it away.... we are all aware of the harsh realities of our actions on ourselves and those around us, you may think that you are being kind by being harsh to try to make people think of what they are doing, but it depends very much on the person involved.

I truly feel desperately sorry for you and your son, every time I read your first post it really makes me feel so sad that he was left on the street homeless , that should never ever have happened, however I still believe that you can only truly understand if you have been an alcoholic or had any kind of addiction..... I tried AA but even though I am a Roman Catholic I found it to intense and brutal...I do not and never will believe in the theory of strip everything away and start again.... You start at the point you are at and pray (l have lit ENOUGH candles to light up coventry in churches and prayed to st Jude (,patron saint of lost causes) that things will get better and work towards that and don't keep looking back at the actions you are ashamed of and regret until you are strong enough to maybe make things better..... I wish salp the strength to try and change, and I truly wish you peace of mind and hope.. in my thoughts and prayers xxx Deirdre x

So what.. Everyone is tippy toeing around.. 

Let's get to the facts the harsh reality of alcoholism is death.. So how much closer can this issue of not facing the realities get to becoming sober?

 

That's half the battle right there,   salp.   Start with the resolution.    That's all.   Make a date,  and prepare for it.    Tell your doctor,  and ask what he/her thinks would be appropriate.

(This actually works really well for heroin addiction,  too - and giving up smoking).

With all due respect,   you're going to alienate a whole lot of otherwise fantastic people.     You cannot bully an alcoholic into quitting.    Emotional blackmail doesn't work,  either.

Strong support?   THAT helps.    

 

I'm not bulling anyone. I am telling my story thru my experiences thru my eyes. Like it or not it's my truth.

how many alcoholics in UR family have u seen on life support  from some ome trying to kill him for his shoes.How many in UR family have tried suicide over and over from becoming an alcoholic. How many in UR family have u watched lose everything .. his business, children wife cats cloths end up on the street., his dignity and pride! How many in UR family have u watched become mentally ill from drinking so much for so long..

 

Lets face it I'm not going to sugar coat the alcoholics behavior ,it is the truth it's not bullying. It's the ugly side of alcoholics the ugly truth facing of whats down the road . That will never make anyone quit but it may make one just one realize they need help and get it.

 If there is anything I want more than to help any alcoholic & to see there is a better life I am goin to do what I can to do just that.

No matter who's feathers I ruffle.

HOPE4CURE 

Hope, those here who have seen your story have full understanding of why you are so passionate on this subject. The thing that is bothering me is about what support YOU have. It is not only the drinker that suffers, in fact those close to them probably suffer more through watching them destroy themselves. Have you got people around to help you through this?

Joetess appears to have got almost the full set of alcohol-related conditions and is still fighting. I don't know your son's exact condition but it may still be possible for him to overcome his alcohol problem. Don't give up hope and don't let him give up hope.

I watched my father die a very horrible death due to alcoholic cirrhosis.   

I also nursed my late husband until he died at 31.   In fact,  during a bizarre and horrifying 4 month period (beginning on Christmas Day several years ago - when my husband died),   I lost him,,  his father,  my stepfather AND my mother.

It saddens me to realize that you're actually proud of ruffling the feathers of people who just don't need it.

 

I'm trying to find the words to express myself....without going into overdrive.

Hope?   Calling Salp a "jerk"  is perhaps the most useless thing in the world.    

Paul made a great point though - Hope,  how are you in terms of support?   Being the caregiver is tremendously difficult - are you able to find a group?

Paul u have been very helpful to me and I'm actually setting up dates and getting initiated. I try to ignore the name calling. Don't get me wrong I'm not happy with it but I think she's looking for help here as I. Thank you

Joe test you been helpful as well. You seem to know how to be around alcoholics. I trust your judgment on what to do next. Should I avoid family gathering as the liquor is tempting.. I don't drink regularly am y more but smoking replaced it.. I'm a little afraid that if I give up smoking I'll go into drinking.. I read there really isn't a way to end addiction but you can replace the addiction with something else.. I'm living proof of that theory. 

Early on in your recovery,  there's something of a "honeymoon" period.    We become so proud of ourselves (and so we should be!)  that we think our sobriety is more powerful than anything else on the planet.

Unfortunately it's also during this time when we're more likely to relapse - social pressure,  a family get together.   

Is there someone who would be willing to be right by your side?

Great to hear you are taking positive steps Sal

go for it kid, dont give up your fighting