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I need help. this is all new to me. Im 55 yr male. 12days ago came down with gout. The Dr. wont perscribe any meds because my kidneys arnt the best. Going to aruba in 24 days. is there something out there that will stop the gout so that i can drink alcohol there. I have changed my diet allready. and started drinking lots of water. please help
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steve1973 jeff5518
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Unfortunately not I'm afraid Alcohol is a thing of the past lol
But keep drinking the water it's dehydration that was getting me
rustygecko jeff5518
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The answer is fabaxostat (excuse spelling). It works same way as allopurinol but it doesn't eliminate through the kidney. However it's expensive.
However going to a hot climate is bad for gout (drink loads), and it's best to avoid alcohol.
In reality you'd be better to learn to enjoy life without alcohol.
roger47054 jeff5518
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Is it the first attack?
rustygecko roger47054
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Good point Roger. If it's his first attack, it may be his last (not because it will kill him lol). However, Jeff has indicated a weak kidney at gout is largely a problem of the kidney, so odds on it won't be the last attack.
roger47054 rustygecko
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I only asked as opinion seems to indicate that first attacks are not as severe. That said you may be ok (attack subsided) and decide to drink.
Not a good idea as it may flare up again and you will be in Aruba in a lot of pain and possibly immobile as opposed to be moving freely albeit not consuming alcohol.
If you know you have kidney damage then why contemplate drinking at all. Just chill out and enjoy the holiday. Aruba, lucky you i say.
philip_53291 jeff5518
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In my experience wine is the easiest to tolerate without getting gout, beer and spirits are worse. I used to be able to drink a couple of pints 3 times a week or a bottle of wine about the same when I first developed gout (less now). But yeah, hot climate you're gonna need much more water to an almost ridiculous extent. In the end we're all different and you're gonna have to find your own levels. Unfortunately this will mean playing with fire, so to speak. If you want to drink you'll have to try and avoid gouty foods as well (google them). I'm now 7 years older than you and mostly have to avoid alcohol. (Once a week treat.) It sucks but getting old is like that. Old age just seems to be about giving things up as far as I can see until you have to sit in a chair watching repeats of Oprah. DEATH, come on, I'm ready now! Heh heh, good luck and try to have a good holiday!
rustygecko philip_53291
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But surely you can enjoy life without alcohol? I must admit I gave it up some 20 years ago when living in a Muslim country, and I must say that after, when I lived in a drinking country (NZ), I noticed how poorly people behaved when drinking, so now rarely drink. At first when giving it up, I rather missed it. Can't say I do now.
philip_53291 rustygecko
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Of course I can enjoy life without alcohol but I like to enjoy everything I can as long as I can, it's just part of it. I'd like to still play football, race bikes and play in a group as I did in my youth but I've had to give these things up through inability. I don't give up until I absolutely have to, with anything. Just the way I am. I've never really drunk so much that I was out of control (maybe once or twice). Up until last year I used to walk 4/5 days a week but my feet are arthritic, apart from gout so I've had to give that up mostly as well. Why willingly give things up? That I don't understand.
rustygecko philip_53291
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As for the arthritis - same as gout - could be due to the inflammation caused by hyperuricemia. Solve that and it could well stop the arthritis.
philip_53291 rustygecko
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rustygecko jeff5518
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Jeff
Have you had your blood urate tested either during or ideally before or after an attack?
I guess they haven't extracted an joint fluid?
Are you overweight?
roger47054 rustygecko
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Hard to say whether the diet changes or the weight loss are the reason. But looking back i have not suffered half as much when i have not been overweight. Mmm.
rustygecko roger47054
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Sochima822 jeff5518
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A recent article was written up stating that alcohol is a poison to our bodies. I believe we all sort of know this but prefer to ignore it. Now, you state you have bad kidneys, I'm almost sure it's due to the poison you've been drinking. You've gotten gout, a metabolic unbalanced uric acid level due to your kidneys not being able to process the poison going through your system, and you want a quick fix so you can put more poison in your body in a few weeks? Where is the logic in this? Which btw, gout takes a few weeks to flush out, if you're lucky.
jeff5518 Sochima822
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rustygecko jeff5518
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Your drinking days are done I suspect.
I now understand why your doc is reticent to presecribe any more drugs.
You are left with the following: drink all the water you can. Cut out all fructose esp high fructose corn syrup. Exercise (swim? bike?). Cut your BMI to under 25. You will discover the things that trigger gout in you - avoid them.
There are a couple of natural remedies which may help: tart cherries, and extract from pineapple.
To quote a fellow contributor " Your drinking days are done" or at least mostly done.
rustygecko Sochima822
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Can't fault your logic there Sochi.
I think Jeff probably realises that he's being a bit optimistic though.
Sochima822 jeff5518
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Sochima822 rustygecko
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The only optimistic outcome is that he's living with one or two kidneys that barely work, if at all. Our kidneys are extremely delicate; if you run poison through them chances are they'll never mend unless, of course, he's hoping for a kidney transplant.
None of this sounds good to me with heart problems, drinking problem, kidney problems, and now gout. Signs of early death is what it's leading to imho.