Non-stop muscle twitching and "running ants" feeling
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Hello everyone,
it will soon be a year since this problem of mine started and nobody has yet found a solution to it, so I thought I have nothing to lose by asking here.
Around April last year I started getting muscle twitches. Out of nowhere. It continued for a month, until I finally went to doctor about it, no fun when your fingers get all jumpy when you sit still, or your muscles twitch so much it wakes you from your sleep. It's pretty unplesant when there's muscles moving under your skin all the time. In the thigh, in the leg, in the finger, in the neck... I think I even had it in the eye once. I so much wish it would just stop.
Doctor said it was a lack of magnesium, but a few months later the problem persisted, and a new sensation developed in my left shoulder blade - the warm buzzy "running ants feeling". I moved to another country, so went to another doctor there. That doctor stated that my neck is very stiff and asked if I suffer from migraine, which I don't think I do. They said I should try exercising a bit more - it should exhaust the muscles so they don't have the energy to twitch. They also prescribed going to a physiotherapist, which is a pretty expensive procedure to me, so I am still hesitating. In the meantime, the muscle twitching has subsided to a few times a day, however, the "running ants feeling" became more frequent. Exercise doesn't seem to alter it that much...
Other minor problems I have that might be related to this are heart rhythm problems in the evening and inability to stay in a bent-down position for more than a few minutes (gives me a terrible headache and dizzyness), I also suffer from obsessive thoughts, really often (I mention this since I have heard that psychological health matters a lot when it comes to muscle twitching) If someone could comment on this I would be really grateful. Doctors say they can't do anything about it, but they didn't really think of checking my nerves - maybe there's a pressed nerve, or something?
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Futari
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haclil
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Having said that, your muscle problems sound a lot like neuropathies. Hasn’t anyone suggested that to you? I have had a neuropathic right thigh muscle for three years now. The first sign of it was a distinct feeling that I’d spilled ice water on my thigh! This morphed into the (again) distinct feeling that a large adhesive bandage was being pulled off the top of my thigh. The latest sensation I have there—all of these sensations being mercifully brief—is a very strong burning sensation. In between I too have had the feeling of muscles moving under the skin of my thigh or ants crawling on it. Because of those two phenomena I thought to mention neuropathy to you in the first place. So you may want to suggest this to your doctor or straightaway see a neurologist.
About vitamin D, the dosage is critical. Be sure your doctor is taking into account your blood results, your age, and is also up on the latest guidelines. My doctor has me on drops (I’m 71) and advises I take them once a week since this vitamin is slowly absorbed. Another option, and maybe the best, is to spend 20” a day in the sun.
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Futari
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Back in my home country I did get a prescription for a neurologist, but never got around to make an appointment, thinking that of all things I've ever been sick with, there's no way I'm nerve-damaged. The fact that I moved countries really soon after that doctor visit contributed to turning down that visit too... Turns out I might actually be nerve-damaged, and I regret not going to a neurologist much earlier.
My current doctors almost refuse to do anything until I go to the expensive physiotherapist as they prescribed, and no matter how many times I mention it they ask me to calm down and reassure me that they want the best for me and I should not be too hypochondriac about it all. Well I am not...
I'm actually really surprised - I always thought there has to be a very serious reason for nerves to become damaged... I got my first twitches in a sunny April afternoon reading news on my laptop, lying on my bed. No recent traumas, no mental shocks, no nothing, I guess that's why I was so quick to dismiss the possibility of nerve problems...
becky481216 Futari
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have you ever found relief or a reason? i have suffered for six months now and im scared to death
joanne47212
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Very helpful.
haclil
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If that physiotherapist is so expensive you may want to look at alternative therapies like acupuncture. But don't go that route until you have a diagnosis *you can accept* from a specialist like a neurologist.
Speaking of nerve damage, recent research shows that sufferers with fibromyalgia often have damaged peripheral nerves. I'm not suggesting you have fibromyalgia. The point is that this is a new kind of finding, and I don't believe the researches know how the nerves got damaged.
So, hang in there and all the best!
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0208mad Phoebe604
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In October 2014 I felt an altered sensation on the back of my shoulder. By January 2015 this had spread over the top of both shoulders to a full on sunburn sensation. Went to see the neurologist who examined me did strength reflex tests etc and an MRI of my brain,neck and spine. This came back completely clear. I had blood tests done all Completly clear. I went to see a second neurologist who read the MRI report examined me and said 100% I did not have MS or these other neurological disorders I found online and that I was suffering from anxiety and stress and revered me to a pain clinic. By now I was getting burning tingling and the creepy crawling sensation all over me. I also had a weak wrist and ankle on the right side of me. I then went to see a third Neurologist who again examined me read the MRI report and took down a detailed history of my symptoms. By now I also had skin hypersensitivity. She then went to see her senior consultant so now he's the 4 th neurologist and he said I was heading for a breakdown. He referred me to a counsellor which I am on a waiting list.
I find every day so difficult suffering the burning tingling searing pain. Also the creepy Crawley feeling. Please please advise me if you think the doctors are right or could this be something sinister. Can't believe anxiety and stress can cause this. I read ur post and wondered what you did to relieve these symptoms. Thanks. Please please can someone reply and give me some advice. Thank you for reading this.
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0208mad Phoebe604
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Thankyou for ur speedy reply. I would love to be able to email you directly. I am 48 and desperately worried. I have no support and am sinking fast. Please can we keep in touch. Thanks.
Phoebe604 0208mad
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My doctor said when I saw her last Wednesday that I just have to accept the diagnosis I have been given. But very difficult to do when ur in constant discomfort and pain.
I wake in the morning feeling scared I go to work feeling scared I am constantly scared. I am currently half way through CBT Therepy but it's not helping much. I no longer fear MS but as one of the hospital has said they think my nervous system has become sensitized due to anxiety and stress that's why I'm getting these symptoms. I am so frightened where it will end its the uncertainty that's slowly killing me. I have a family to look after they need me so much but I'm irritable and snappy. Sometimes I wish I wasn't here anymore and am so desperately lonely. Thankyou do much for replying.
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I was also tested for copper deficiency and Lyme Disese in June. All completely clear. I am in a lot of pain tonight but have been extra stressed so so desperately worried. It seems no one wants to help. Thanks for reading this xx please someone help me xx
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It was suggested by one of the neurologists that I should go on floroxitinre but I have to stop my ampitripiline as that in higher doses is also an anti deppresent. I just can't do that I tried to cut down but after a few days the pain was horrendous. I can't go on like this I just can't I don't know what to do. Thanks for replying so quickly xx
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Only because of this. Don't want to become a addict to anti depressants but I've got to do something fast.
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KMRC Phoebe604
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shana1021 0208mad
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I have some of these same symptoms. Maybe try and go to a rheumatologist. You could have fibromyalgia. With fibromyalgia your skin can become so sensitive that clothing hurts. All touch can hurt the skin. Also I was vitamin d dufficient. It was 13. I had to take 5000 d3 everyday. I believe it caused my skin pain, nerve pain in legs. It affects the mind and nerves. Just something to look into if the neurologist isn't helping. So sorry your going through this.
ri38309 0208mad
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I believe you are suffering from Rsd reflex sympathetic dystrophy it's also
Called crps
Your suffering is the exact description of the disease
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Hi thanks for replying. I am still suffering with no diagnoses. I have read about CRPS but I don't think I fit as I have had this now for two years. I had no injury and the original area which started to create pain was my back on the left side.
I now have burning all over my body and have been told I am suffering from a sensitized nervous system due to a history of extreme anxiety. Then I have been discharged with painkillers that don't do a lot.
I am going to see my GP in two weeks time as he is the only doctor who seems to want to delve a bit deeper and I will certainly mention it to him.
I had a really good spell back in February where my symptoms died down a lot. But then I had a very worrying situation arise which kicked it all off again. The thought of living like this for the rest of my life is an awful awful feeling but what else can I do? I frequently cry and am scared of what is coming each day. I don't want to die but don't want to live like this either. No one really understands because nothing can be seen.
I am in the loneliest saddest place you can possibly imagine and am at my wits end. I know I am just about hanging on with my fingertips but how for how long I don't know. No one seems to want to help.
Thankyou for your interest and suggestion.
0208mad randy1965
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Hi sorry I haven't posted in a while. I recently have seen anothor neurologist. I had an EMG which was fine. He is now booked me for a skin biopsy which he is doing to test for small fiber neuralgia. Of course really scared. He said he is expecting it to be clear but I'm still worried as my symptoms are quite bad. Clothes hurt skin burns and tingles. Twitches everywhere. This started in my back and has spread downwards. It is very calm at night or if I lay down. May I ask how yours started and how is it now. I have got to wait 2 weeks til the biopsy and then anothor 4 weeks for results. Don't know how I will get through.
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Hi, this is my first post here. I read all your posts and felt like I should register so I can respond.
In my opinion, you've already been advised on what's wrong with you, and that is Fibromyalgia. You've described the classic symptoms perfectly, over and over.
You're not crazy, but there's something wrong with your nerves, and the way your brain experiences pain. Fibromyalgia is very real, but still misunderstood by a lot of people, including some health professionals. It's a condition you may have long term or all your life, but once you understand it you can manage your symtoms better, and reduce your level of anxiety, which is part of the vicious cycle. The other parts, for most patients, are pain, depression, insomnia, and fatigue. Each of these contributes to the others, and ends up in an unescapable and escalating cycle. Your brain learns patterns of pain and it becomes very hard to get out of them. Even light touch can feel scary or painful. Muscle twitches are common, as are strange sensations like temperature, wetness, etc. Fibromyalgia sufferers often have unexplained pain in all parts of the body, which can disappear and reappear without warning. It often goes along with other conditions like IBS (bowel problems), a past history of abuse or trauma, restless legs, chronic fatigue, depression, and hypothyroidism.
Your desperation is obvious from your posts. This unfortunately is common with FM patients who aren't properly diagnosed and treated. But please, look more into it. Even the wikipedia page on FM is pretty decent. There's no good blood test to diagnose it, nor would it show up on a brain scan or most neurological tests either. It's usually diagnosed just by listening to the patient's story and observing the patient. I'm shocked nobody has mentioned this to you professionally, but I see "mary" above has mentioned it, only to have you brush it off. You should listen to her, it really does sound like Fibromyalgia. It accounts for ALL of your symptoms, it won't kill you, AND you can drastically improve your quality of life if you understand it and treat it properly. I suggest you at least look into the possibility. I understand you're very anxious and depressed, and have trouble accepting diagnosis, which is common with FM. But I've read all your comments on this post, and every single symptom and fea you mention is completely explained by what I know of Fibromyalgia.
If you can't get your doctor to listen to you, look into a "functional medicine" doctor and/or a naturopath. But even mainstream medicine nowadays is beginning to understand and properly diagnose FM. Good luck!
Ozzland 0208mad
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You have Fibromyalgia. I have had it for 25 years. Can't be touched.
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Hi I have since last post have been tested for Small Fibre neuropathy and biopsys have been clear. My neurologists does not think I have fibro as I don't have the 13 pressure points that is required for diagnoses. I am still in very much the same place as I was before but I'm now on pregabalin and this does help a little. Still so low and so depressed.
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Strange thing is it goes away almost completely. It's not there in the morning till I get up.
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Sorry that was supposed to be it goes away almost completely when I go to bed. It's not there in the morning.
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Strange thing is it's subsides when I go to bed. It's not there in the morning. It starts as soon as I get up.
Jo_Anne_B 0208mad
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How are you feeling now? I have this too and cannot sleep. I don't know what to do.
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Jennilynn Phoebe604
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Hi! I know this is an old post however, I'm suffering from constant muscle twitching (which is spreading) as well. However, after reading all the posts to this point, I have a suggestion that hasn't seem to be brought up ... HAVE THEM CHECK YOU FOR RSD. It's basically overactive nerves (I think) but, you don't have to suffer.
My mother had this and is much better today, with few to no flare ups.
My condition remains undiagnosed however, I was pretty much blown off by a neurologist. In the meantime, my blood pressure is stroke level high.. I have horrific fatigue and it's getting worse. I need back surgery but know this is not related. I'm feeling very alone and honestly am starting to feel defeated.
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Hi Jenny
I still don't have a diagnosed I have still got muscle twitching and muscle atrophy I've been referred to a proffessor in London I've had pet/ct scan and MRI and they still haven't figured me out life gets a bit hard going.doesnt it. I hope they figure you out I feel defeated too at the moment and my wife don't seem to understand why I'm so down ! I've been on diazepam since December and trying to get myself of them but I'm feeling so so depressed ! I have imagined killing myself some how but what stops me is the fact I'd make my kids and family cry if I did that but I feel so alone. When you've got a constant pain like this it's terrible . Sorry for the Emotional message .. hope you get figured out x
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Dont know if you r still experiencing the twitches, pain etc all over. Hope its better. Sounds exactly like what i have esp since last Dec 2017. Really got bad in mid May this yr. I have had several blood tests none of which has diag the twitching. I was found to be Rhem Arthritis positive with Osteoporosis and have Dermatitis also. My ANA blood test was negative, so thats a head scratcher. I have PTSD and suffered with GAD for 50+ years. Its worst now that im 70yo and in major panic mode about dying, or being close to the end of life. Only thing i havent done is Neuro tests. Dr Google seems to think i dont have MS, Parkinson's or worst ALS, but im going to pursue that next. Again, if you are better, glad to hear it.
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