OK a new thread then

I receive full Housing Benefit so I think more is out of the question?!!!

Fortunately I no longer have a mobility car so that is OK.

Honestly what are people who have a mobility car supposed to do? I feel for them.

My sister is looking at house to rent on Saturday.

It is 3 bedroom and is £485 a month.

We are both pensioners and on guaranteed pension credit. We both currently receive housing benefit.

Have you got any idea if we would have to contribute to the rent or would all that be paid in benefits.

Sorry to land you with this question but you do seem to know a lot about the benefit system not just PIP and DLA.

Sarah

 

As you receive guaranteed pension credit, if your sister also receives a qualifying benefit like PIP/DLA then you'll be entitled to Severe disability premium (providing the decision goes with the report and you're awarded the daily living PIP) if she doesn't receive a qualifying benefit then you won't be entitled to the SDP when you move in with your sister. Until you move in with her, if you currently live alone and no one claims Carers allowance for you then you'll be entitled to the SDP which is an extra £64.30 per week on top of your pension credit. It can be backdated to the date your PIP was awarded to.

When you move in with your sister then you'll need to report the change of circumstances if she doesn't claim the benefit stated above.

As for your housing benefit then all councils are different and it will depend on the local housing allowance for that area. You will be entitled to the 2 bed rate, so it maybe that you will have to pay a little towards that. A benefits calculator will give you an idea.

 

Are you saying I have been entitled to SDP all the time I have lived alone and no one has claimed Carers Allowance for me?

I started receiving pension in July 2011 so that is 7 years backlog payment at £64.30 a week!!!

Why don't they tell you these things!!!!!!

No, absolutely not i'm afraid. As you were claiming the mobility part of DLA previously this does not entitle you to claim the SDP.

Criteria for SDP is as follows.... Mid/high rate care DLA or PIP daily living or Attendance Allowance any rate, followed by what i stated in my previous comment. So like i stated, if your award is successful with PIP then you'll be able to claim SDP BUT it will only start from the date you were awarded PIP and not before. As i also stated when you move in with your sister you will no longer qualify for the SDP and will need to report those changes.

Also as you were previously claiming DLA mobility this wouldn't have allowed anyone to claim Carers Allowance for looking after you. The benefits system is complicated.

Complicated! Yes you can say that again!!

Would me getting SDP affect my housing benefit?

Sarah

Indeed it is. No, not at all. You'll still get the maximum housing benefit you're entitled to.

Once your PIP decision has been made, if it's a daily living PIP award then you'll need to ring pension credit to claim the SDP because it's not automatically paid remember. Even though you're planning on moving in with your sister, it's still worth claiming it until you do move. The form you need is IS10 or sometimes they'll do it over the phone.

There's one thing i did find out this evening about your pension credit and SDP.

Pension Credit is an income based benefit, therefore if a State Pension (together with any other income) is more money that what a payment of Pension Credit (inc the SDP) would be, you won't be entitled to the SDP.

OK I think I'm getting there.

I've been awarded standard rate of daily living PIP

My goodness me, I feel I've earned it I can tell you!

State Pension and Pension Credit combined is £163 a week.

That is my only income.

So it looks as if i will get SDP

Although that will stop when I move in with my sister other things like Gas Electricity TV Licence etc will be cheaper because we will be sharing them.

Thanks for all your help and advice .

Sarah

Great news. Yes that's correct , you'll be entitled to SDP but you have to claim for it because it's not automatically awarded, you'll need to ring pension credit for this and it will be added to that.

Yes, when you move in with your sister you will need to report the change of circumstances to pension credit and SDP will stop.

Relax now, it's all over and you're welcome, no problem at all.

I think the State Pension is about £123 and Pension Credit is about £40 a week.

SDP is £64.30. 

So State Pension is slightly more that Pension Credit and SDP put together.

So from what you originally said I would not get SDP?

Can't cope with any more information. I'm going to stop thinking about it and be grateful for what I have got.

Thanks again.

Sarah xxx

 

I just took the time to put those details above into a benefits calculator for you and as first suspected, you will be entitled to SDP, your pension credit will increase to £104.30 per week. The extra confirms the amount of SDP added which is £64.30 per week at least while you live alone. Call pension credit Monday as advised.

Yes it's very confusing, even for me at times but the benefits calculator helped. We got there in the end, sorry for the confusion but was trying to help you claim everything you're entitled too. Far too many people miss out on the help they're entitled to because they simply didn't know they could claim the extra help.

Thanks again Denise. I will check this out with Claire at CAB this week. They are only open Wednesday and Thursday. They are not starting my PIP payment till 29th August so nothing changes until then anyway.

Sarah xxx

Apparently I am entitled to SDP.

Have to fill  out a PC10 form which I will be sent.

Now to my question

DLA ends on 28th August. But I think they pay in arrears. So my next DLA is due on 21st August which will be the usual 4 weeks of £239. They will then owe me another week at £59.75.

So far so good

But if they pay in arrears does that mean my payment on 28th August actually only takes me up to 31st July?

Sorry if this is confusing. I have got several different phone numbers for DLA all of which are wrong.

and I have not been able to get any sense out of the girl at PIP. She was simply not answering my question!!!! All she kept saying is THEY WON'T PAY YOU TWICE!!!! Yes ofcourse I know that.!!

Sarah

Yes, i did advise that you would be entitled to SDP from when your PIP starts. You will need to report the changes when you finally move in with your sister though.

For your DLA payments then yes they are paid in arrears, the same as PIP. Without know what date your PIP starts from it's impossible to try to help you. What does your PIP award letter say? Most people get totally confused by this exact issue.

PIP starts on 29th August

Sarah

Your final DLA payment could be later than usual or it could be for more than it usually is. It's very difficult to advise about this without seeing the dates and amounts. Usually it works out correct but they often have a strange way of working it out. I do know that you won't miss out on any weeks.

Ok, your DLA payment will continue to be paid for 28 days after the date your PIP starts, this is the arrears, so your final DLA payment will not be 21st August, you will have another DLA payment after that and this will be the arrears. 

Your first PIP payment will be approx 4 weeks after that. The award letter should tell you the exact dates as i don't know those dates i can't advise you further.

Thought I had given you PIP start date. 29th August.

They will pay first PIP payment of £180.09 on 20th September (Thursday) This will be for the 3 weeks and 1 day from 29th August - 20 September. PIP will then pay me £57.30 a week every 4 weeks.

So second PIP payment of £229.20 on 18th October.

Hope that makes sense and thanks for all your help.

Sarah xx

Anytime. I think the confusion here is when your last payment of DLA is because your DLA ends on 28th August and your due a payment on 21st. Then your PIP starts on 29th. It could be that your final DLA payment will be more than what it usually is but to know for sure then unfortunately you 'll have to ring them. A quick google search has given me this number for DLA 0800 121 4600. Google is your best friend!