Pain relief for Pylori
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I am 44 years old for years even when very young at about the age of 19 I have been having have this issue that came and went sometimes it would last for few ours some times at least a week abdominal pains, back and side pains, been on PH blockers now for at least 2 years as doctors kept telling me I had reflux, I have been and out of A&E because the pain was unbearable, even had paramedics out no pain relief would help at all, Doctor eventually thought it could be pancreatitis so done urine and blood tests, urine samples came back as Pylori positive, not had blood results back yet, I’m on the 3 stage course of the antibiotics right now but the pain is so bad I cry often with it, anyone had this before if so what do you suggest for pain relief as nothing is working Ty
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paul77828 hitchins08
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Have you had an endoscopy to see whether you have an ulcer or gastritis ? You will have one or the other, or both.
The antibiotics should hopefully clear the infection (you will have to get retested 8 weeks after) and stay on ppi and healthy diet for a few months till you heal
hitchins08 paul77828
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sanya11314 hitchins08
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Wow, what an unusual test:
H.pylori in urine,
it is an antibody test like in blood (not the actual bacteria/antigen and its metabolites like in breath test or biopsy or stool).
The immune system's response looked for.
Quite some specifity and sensitivity.
Like in blood, this test doesn't quite say, if it's an old infection or new one, if it is passed or current.
If you have a follow up test for H.pylori, please let it be a stool (antigen) test or breath test to make sure, a current infection (not passed) is checked for.
Not that your symptoms are mistaken for Hpylori and it was actually long gone. (with H.pylori antibody test in blood and urine, this is possible)
Stool tests are quite cheap, non-invasive and not depending on PPI.
(for breath test you must be off PPI/antibiotics for 4 weeks prior test, otherwise false neg)
Best of luck!
paul77828 sanya11314
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sanya11314 paul77828
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Yes, there is.
(I didn't know either since never used where I live)
Antibodies IgG (immune response, the 'later' one) in urine for screen.
Has a few % false neg and false pos, but regarding the test and screen, not bad. (e.g. 94.4% sensitivity and 96.9% specificity, with accuracy of 96.0%.
Though doesn't say if 'fresh' 'active' infection when screening pos. in urine.
paul77828 sanya11314
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You learn something everyday !
hitchins08 sanya11314
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hitchins08 paul77828
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sanya11314 hitchins08
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Just make sure: the blood and urine test for H.pylori are the same reliability re if current or passed infection, like they correctly explained: serology cannot be used to test cure of disease, same with urine since it tests for the same thing: antibodies. Urine test cannot be used to test cure of disease either.
All the best for your further investigations!
It's horrid to have such pain!
hitchins08 sanya11314
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sanya11314 hitchins08
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Oh hello, somehow didn't see this.
I had to convert 7.1mmol/l chol value since I am used to mg/dl by training (Australia also uses mmol/l for so many metabolites, it get's me everytime).
7.1 mmol/l = 274 mg/dl
This is elevated, but not the highest I have ever seen (including my own values).
For Cholesterol panic one needs to look at the HDL and LDL make up of the total cholesterol value (that you provided) as well,
also cholesterol is an extremely important substance (hormone precurser), it is not simple fat at all (has ring structures),
then a look at the whole lifestyle and age.
It is ONE puzzle piece and not a sole one.
Be also aware, that you produce cholesterol in your body yourself, it is not just eaten.
There is a genetic factor (and it changes with age), which level your body wants to reach. Some eat the worst diet and have best cholesterol total values, because their limit is simply reached. I can eat almost zero cholesterol and the values hardly fall since I make it myself to that (above cut off) limit.
Statins do lower LDL fraction and have their indications.
Some get bad side effects from statins, so monitor it please.
There was a good documentary about it, there is not one cholesterol measurement cut-off rate and 'always statins' then to be taken, the decision depends really on your
age,
HDL/LDL value and
other risk factors (smoking, obese, no sport)
or if you have a plaque in e.g. your arteries on neck already.
The older the higher cholesterol tends to be and the more indication for statins;
There seem to be cholesterol lowering diets and supplements like red yeast rice (which chemically actually has the same thing in it like medical statins, funny isn't it), which might be the first or additional step, also steps to increase HDL fraction (walking). Please search internet.
You need to monitor that cholesterol level, but I would not be concerned at that stage. You have a lot of other pains to manage!
All the best!
hitchins08 sanya11314
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sanya11314 hitchins08
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That's great you updated! Thank you!
If symptoms can be narrowed down to gallbladder/stones/blockages more and more, the closer you come to treatment.
I hope it's that and then once tackled much better!
All all the best!
hitchins08
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