Pip questioner
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Hi.. I recently received a letter from dwp stating my dla was stopping and i needed to make a claim for pip, wating for appointment with cab to help fill them in. In the meantime I have had a look through the forms and it says i should forward any xray /scans etc, i contatced my gp, s surgery requesting the ubove but was told there was no need for me to have them as dwp would request them if they need them.. Should i insist that gp give me copies or will dwp rquest them do you think. I have also had cortisone injections etc but dont have proof. Do the dwp automatically request medical records as i have very little evidence in writing myself.
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kim25915
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mike09523 kim25915
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Hi ,
I have had this debate before about written evidence, I truly believe there is no point in my transition from dla to pip when the time comes.
I have requested written evidence from my neurosurgeon and got a letter back with only basic information, I have requested gp letters, and paid £15 for each of them, only to receive basic description of my numerous ailments. Each time I was informed by them that I should not worry myself as the dwp would request the information from them directly. Over the last 7 years I have been referred to specialists for: cervical stenosis/spondylosis, bladder problems, heart problems, breathing troubles and cancer. What do I have apart from a heap of appointments letters, hardly anything.
I know that the evidence is required, as stated by Denise, but I can't get those concerned to send them to me. I have 4 pages of repeat prescriptions, nothing much else.
I started physio. this week for my leg spasms and walking difficulties, the physio could not understand how I was able to keep awake, so much pain control. By the way I think that she probably does atos assessments due to the questions and hidden tests that were carried out.
Mike.
denise15811 mike09523
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Hi,
Back in the DLA days i believe that DWP requested the info from GP's, Consultants etc. Now it's changed to PIP GP's still think that they do the same thing. This is very often not the case and it's very rare for them to ask anyone for evidence. It clearly states a list of evidence they want to see and don't want to see on the notes that come with the PIP2 form. There's so many people that make the mistake that they ask for evidence. I'm not saying that they never ask, they do but it's rare.
If you're transfering from DLA when you ring to start your claim off you can ask them to include your file from DLA in your evidence. I know it's often very difficult for a lot of people to get the evidence, especially when a lot of people never see anyone regarding their condition anymore.
You can include in your evidence a diary written by yourself for as long as you want. A letter written by someone who cares for you, and knows you well. When writing the letter you should remember to inlude as much detail about how your conditions affect you. For example, if you have problems getting into the bath, state why you have problems, if it causses pain, sate why. If you use aids around your home tell them what aids yyou have and why you need them. If you have problems with your mobility tell them why. Explain the difficults in as much detail as possible. If youu can walk but it causes you pain to do this then tell them. PIP isn't about your worst day. It's having problems for at least 50% of the time. There's also the reliability criteria. If you can't do something regularly, reliably, without pain and discomfort tthen you're class as nnot being able to do it at all. There's allso the different mobility criteria to think about. With DLA it was 50 metres or less for HIghh rate. With PIP it's 20 metres or less, so a big difference.
I know it's a scarey process, everyone feels the same. It's stressful too and it never ends. Those re-assessments that are constantly in your thoughts.
My point is, if you don't at least apply when the time comes then youu'll never know if you would have been successful or not. If you fail first time then don't just throw the towel in, start the appeal process off by asking for the MR then Tribunal if need be. Tribunal are totally independent to DWP and mostly they are understanding and will let you speak. 65% of those who appear have a decision in their favour.
My point is, never ever give up!!! do your research because there's plenty of advice available on the internet and don't take to heart all the bad info you read from other peoples stories. There's plenty of people that are successful but we don't hear their story. If they have an award they're happy with then they have no questions to ask, so we don't hear their story.
kim25915 denise15811
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Thanks Denise, very useful info. Just pisses me off that the receptionist thinks she knows everything when you try to explain what the forms are asking for, i could actually hear her intake of breath when she insisted that pip no longer request the info and its up to the claiment to supply it, it was as if she was thinking to herself, oh heres another nuisance, if she dont ring me back this afternoon i, m going to ring again and ask to speak to the practise manager, see if that helps. Kim
Lilmem kim25915
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HI Kim, I don't understand the doctor's receptionist being so reluctant to give you your medical records. Maybe she can't be bothered to go through your records & print them off. My medical records consists of dozens & dozens of sheets of A4 paper. Must of taken a while to print tem off. It is your right to request & receive your medical records. Next time you are in contact with the receptionist, tell her you are officially requesting your records, which is your right & that there is a time scale for you to use these records. How you have managed to be so patient is an achievement in itself, as I think I would of lost the plot long before now. I am thinking the receptionist is being lazy & certainly ask to speak with the practice manager. Hopefully you will have more joy there.
kim25915 Lilmem
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wendy17594 kim25915
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Hi Kim
When I applied for PIP the only evidence I have was prescription copies, the rest was my description of how I was effected and what I could or couldn't do safely or without pain, just as Denise said.
I was awarded PIP and my GP was not contacted.
Please don't give up you are your own best evidence.
Take care
Wendy x
kim25915
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Another update re medical documents, just got call from practise manager who has said that as far as she can see i only need evidence from 2005,She is infact correct has that's when i became disabled though an accident, she confirmed there are xrays, scans, numerous consultant, specialis and mental health reports. I, m collecting them tomorrow at a cost of course, but well worth it in my opinion, so if anyone is told by a doctors receptionist they dont need this information be assertive and insist on having them. It will certainly help your claim. Kim
Lilmem kim25915
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Hi Kim, If you are only receiving your medical records from 2005, then you should not have to pay the full amount. As I said earlier my records went back to practically to the day I was born, hence the £50 fee.
kim25915
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statements and have never had a problem, but as everyone says pip is much more difficult to get and i want to be prepared as much as i can and leave nothing to chance, anyhow have posted uodate med records. Kim
kim25915
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Lilmem kim25915
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Hi Kim, If you are having to pay the full amount then ask for your full medical records. Even though you only need the information from 2005 the records before that date may make interesting reading. I can't understand how they can charge you the full amount when you are only to receive a portion of your records. Basically you will be paying for something that you are not receiving. Out of principle I would ask for every piece of your records they have.
denise15811 kim25915
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The charge for medical records totally depends on the GP practice and their rules. Some don't charge, while others charge. The fact that you're going to have them as far back as 2005 is great. Good luck with the PIP claim and don't forget to write as muchinfo as possible when filling out those forms. Even if you have to use extra paper to do so.