PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM HIVES
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EVERYONE READ....THIS WORKS!!!! Hello all, I am new to the site as far as contributing but have been reading posts for a few months now. I have had hives for almost 6 months now and as all of you know, it is worse than horrible. I have been to my GP, Dermatologist, Urgent care twice and 1 trip to ER in search of answers or at least some relief. I have been unable to sleep during this entire thing except for an hour or 2 here and there. Until last night. A few days ago I read a post from "hives and thyroid" about her cocktail which she swears works. Yesterday I go to the Allergist still looking for answers and my main concern I will be off my 5th round of steroids since January, and I know it will come back very strong. After talking a while she changed my antihistamine to Doxepin. Hmmm, that sounds familiar...I went home and read the post again and yes, it is one of the drugs that worked for her. Singular I am already on. Thats 2 of the 3!!! The other is Zantac..over the counter. I picked up a box and went home and made my cocktail....Singulair 10 mg. Doxepin 25mg. and Zantac 150 mg. I KID YOU NOT GUYS...MY ITCHING STOPPED WITHIN AN HOUR. TODAY ALMOST 24 HOURS LATER, STILL NO ITCH!!!! The hives are slowly fading as well but they dont itch!! It seems that the combination of these drugs hits all the H1/H2 receptor sites to stop the histamine from being released into the body. The Zantac hits the receptor site H2 which it seems the other antihistamines do not. Zantac, who knew??? I feel like a new person. What a relief. Talk to your doctors and get these 3 meds!!!!! I will keep you posted on my progress...Now to find the cause of it .btw...Zantac (ranitidine) was first developed to be a histamine antagonist, hence it's use, along with other antihistamines, for hives. Good luck everyone, I know you are all as desperate as I am
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MyGingercat debolite
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My other route is not just fixing the symptoms, but addressing the whole immune system. Much slower in terms of results, but no medications. Since chronic idieopathic urticaria is usually caused by an autoimmune dysfuction (once a person has one autoimmune disease s/he might well get another - this is my second) , I have just started on the "autoimmune protocol/paleo" diet, on which I am doing a great deal of research. In one week my bloomings (as I call them) are not quite as intense and I have gotten thinner. I may take 2 months or more to get really good results and it means giving up foods I love as well as fully sharing social occassions - at least for awhile. It causing huge emotional upheavals at this point, but I WILL settle into it.
I suggest that all sufferers look into this as a long term option. Most people who have this are younger than I (76) and have a lifetime to look at. The book I recommend at this point is "The Paleo Solution" by Sarah Ballantyne. Very dense science for 1/3, but you can absorb that gradually. The rest addresses the problem clearly and doably. Look forward to a lifetime of good health.
debolite MyGingercat
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desmond01416 MyGingercat
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But perhaps I would add that avoiding the highest histamine foods helps too, although mostly the paleo diet tends to be low histamine. That includes seafood, fish if not completely fresh (and that excludes most fish I'm afraid. Spinach, aubergines, Strawberries, citrus, yeast, wine.
Finally, I should add that I've been avoiding benzoates, sulphites, glutamates and recently ribos (Ribonucleotides e635, e627, e631, AKA 'yeast extract'). Actually since finally excluding the latter I don't think I've had a single outbreak of hives. Basically, I eat good simple food that is fresh and has not been tampered with / huge list of chemical ingredients and cook everything from scratch with raw ingredients. Minimal pre-packaged food.
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desmond01416 debolite
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The past 2 weeks I am trying Paroxetine, an effective SSRI. So far, the hives and even mild rashes / flushing have completely dissappeared. I take fexofenadine in the morning and half an atarax at night. You are right about taking H1 and H2 anti-histamines helping. Montelukast seems to help many but not me. It didn't even help my asthma strangely! But seretonin is another factor in itch. I suspect it is partly the effect on seretonin that makes Doxepin and now Paroxetine effective in my case and probably others. The effect on reducing anxiety is probably helpful too in getting you back on your feet and not over-focusing on the CU which can become all-consuming as it ruins your life.
A low-histamine diet and recently a high pro-biotic and high pre-biotic diet has helped get me back to feeling better than I have since this started over two years ago. I've been avoiding sea-food, fish, most processed foods, aubergine, strawberries, citrus, hard / mature cheeses, wine etc... For pro-biotics I did a course of VSL3 (expensive!) and now just greek yoghurt. For pre-biotics it's raw leek salads, onion salads, asparagus, banana.
I think the anti-depressant has been helpful too, because if you suffer with this for years, it inevitably drags your mood down. Not enjoying the diarhea and early waking insomnia of SSRIs but it's nothing compared to itching.
I think a month away from outdoor after a knee injury helped too. Excercising outside in the pollen wasn't necessarily helping. I might think about switching from running to indoor swimming.
debolite desmond01416
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desmond01416 debolite
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Doxepin got me over the worst of it, and now a month or so off it, I'm halfway back to my normal weight, after having gained about one stone in weight. It was very tough, especially because it started 4 months before our daughter was born and the first 6 months until I got doxepin were hellish. At times I was near suicidal with it when I hadn't been able to sleep 5 nights out of 7 in a week because of the painful itching. I lost a job to it. It put strain on my relationship with my wife. And of course, the worst thing is that people who don't live with you really don't understand what a terrible thing it is to go through. The first 4 months of chronic urticaria were the worst time of my whole life by far. I remember researching it and going to the A&E department and literally begging them for an atarax prescription. Luckily, my GP has been fantastic. He referred me to immunology who weren't that helpful, but after that he helped me take control of it and has been very understanding and even interested in trying to work out how to deal with this. I'll keep you posted as to how replacing Doxepin with Paroxetine works out. So far, the side effect of early waking insomnia (wake up at dawn) but not caused by hives is a strange feeling. Insomnia without painful itching is nowhere near as distressing. I think the stomach issues and mild insomnia are supposed to go away after the first few weeks. And actually atarax works well to help me lie in when the tiredness gets a bit too much.
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Diotima debolite
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Just a note from a recovered CU sufferer. I'm still taking fexofenadine & Zantac, plus quercetin in the mornings. (Very helpful herb which stabilizes the mast cells). But the big thing for me was fixing my vitamin D deficiency, which is one of the known causes of CU.
Only some sufferers have an underlying autoimmune disorder & the ones they have can vary. Other known causes are a thyroid problem and a vitamin D deficiency (mine was quite severe, due to no supplementation in recent years & steady use of sunscreen,). Very rarely,, CU can have a very serious cause (lymphoma). iIt's good to have the blood tests. For me, I happily experienced steady improvement with the vitamin D supplementation. Now I can even have wine with no problem!
Also, most cases do simply improve over time, though it is certainly one of the worst things one can experience. Good luck with the recovery to all sufferers.
desmond01416 Diotima
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I've also been trying local unfiltered honey since some people also said that can train your body to not over-react to pollen. Early days yet, but it certainly tastes nice on yoghurt with blueberries, nuts and seeds for breakfast.
debolite Diotima
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Diotima debolite
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I elsewhere posted links to the studies on vitamin D and CU. Well worth remedying any deficiency you might have (for CU and other problems that might have brought you).