Possible Oral / Genital thrush, desperate

Hey. Thanks for quick reply.

I have been to multiple doctors. Dentist, allergy doctor, fungal infection doctor.

Dentist said that my tongue looks normal, allergy doctor said that my mouth looks abnormal and fungal infection doctor saw nothing wrong but described me the medication for oral thrush just incase.

I used to take the fluconazole once a day for 2 weeks. No improvements whatsoever.

I have the regular over the counter Canestem, but i also have hydrocortisone cream, neither of them have had any effect on my balanitis.

I have tried the corsodyl gel on my tongue, which has hardly had any effect. I will buy the mouthwash and try it as soon as i have money to buy it.

My tongue doesn't look like it has thrush in it? Hmmm.. That is... Interesting. Since my tongue reacts to caffeine and alcohol which is usual in fungal infections of the tongue, but then again i rarely have proper thick bacteria/fungus on my tongue, its just a little whiter around the edges and more bright in the middle.

Oh, also one thing i forgot to mention: i have this weird fishy taste in my mouth even when i have brushed my teeth. I don't smell it by trying to smell my breath, but i smell it when i put my hand infront my mouth and move my tongue. I have no idea whether my breath actually smells like that, but i have received mixed reviews. Most of people say that my breath is fine and some say that there is an mild odor in my breath.

Also, my ex-wife used to get really bad breath the next day if we had kissed a lot. I don't know whether there is a connection but it sure as hell is weird.

And last thing: one of my toenails is also a lot darker then the rest. I have not paid attention to it before but it has been going on for years as far as i know. It might be fungal, i have no idea. I have applied canesten on it as well to see whether it reacts to it. It might be something else as well, but i doubt that its anything dangerous since it hasn't spread or changed as far as i know.

I don't think so, no.

Is it cureable what you have?

I do not live in the UK.

I'm very positive that it isn't the fish odor syndrome, as i don't smell like fish at all.

I have never thought about that! It could even make sense, who knows! (Being allergic to the washing powder)

I have had blood tests done a few times a few years ago, everything looked normal.

I guess the only option is to get my tongue swabbed, although i don't really trust in the process, as i have read many discussion boards where people with chronic candida say that the mouth test showed negative even though they do have candida.

Only thing that really makes me link this to candida is the weird coincidence of having white tongue AND balanitis at the same time, and neither being disappearing.

It might be worth your while getting patch tested if you can, that would tell you if you are allergic to anything & then you could set about removing whatever it is from the products you use.

And regarding the balanitis, do you wear boxer shorts because that would help.  Thrush likes it warm & moist [sweaty!]  so loose cotton clothing helps - 'circulating air'.  

I had patch testing done years ago & discovered I was  allergic to formaldehyde & formaldehyde releasers, which were in a lot of products that I used.  They aren't used as much, they use alternatives but the formaldehyde releasers are still in a lot of products.

Maybe you should try the alternative angle, patch testing, before you go back to your mouth.  

And to your previous reply: i brush my tongue twice a day for like a minute. I couldn't go outside without brushing my tongue. Especially in the mornings it tends to be pretty white.

I will go take the patch test, and i will also go see a mouth specialist once i can save up some money. Before that i will buy the corsodyl mouthwash.

The allergy theory could work, because have blocked nose every now and then as well, which is result of some form of allergy, even nasal sprays don't really help it. I use antihistamine on a daily basis and it doesn't do much either.

I wear boxer shorts, yes. They are usually very loose rather than tight. The weird thing about the balanitis too, is that it only forms on the right side of the gland, there is not a single dot on the left side. There is a small red area below the "hole" as well.

That does sound like an allergy to something.

The white tongue,  I was forgetting, do you drink enough water?  Not coke or anything else.  It could be that you are dehydrated.

Try not to worry quite so much, that isn't helping!

What soap powder do you use?  I now use Ariel liquid, which suits me.  

Yes ma'am, i drink quite a lot of water. Everytime i get dry tongue i drink water, and i used to drink around 10-12 glasses a day before, but it doesn't really make a big difference to be honest with you.

I use Ariel Sensitive soap powder.

I also bought the Corsodyl mouthwash and used it for the first time now. My mouth was burning for the first 20-30 seconds when i had it in my mouth but then it was fine. My tongue got a little irritated by it, but nothing too big. Now my mouth feels normal.

I don't usually stress about this too much, but when i think about how it affects the other people around me in a sense that if it is some chronic form of systemic candida or something like that, my partner will always get it and it frustrates me.

If you truly have a candida infection, its best to stay away from mouth washes, especially the ones that kill beneficial bacteria in your mouth. Candida albicans, if this is what you have, is a commensal yeast and lives naturally in your mouth and intestines, but when the balance of yeast and bacteria become disturbed, as when you use mouthwashes, antibiotics, eat too much sugar/ processed foods etc, the yeast have a chance to become pathogenic and cause localized infection. A Systemic yeast infection is quite rare and usually only seen in the elderly or those who are immune compromised. 

Have you ever tried a dental probiotic? Or just a regular one ? What about kefir? these could help to restore the benefical bacteria in your mouth. 

Do you consume a lot of processed foods, sugars, white pasta/ breads etc?

I have used regular probiotics for a while

I eat microwave food every now and then, pasta quite often, breads almost never. Sugar the regular amount i guess, i don't eat THAT much sugar.