Post gallbladder nausea

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a year ago i had gallbladder out - it was giving me pain sporadically but i had nausea quite a lot. Scan showed some stones and fatty liver so i went ahead and had it done.   Now im not so sure it was a good idea.   I am still having nausea frequently on waking, it dissipates usually as day moves on and i can eat at night and feel normal.   I also have ibs which i am attempting to help by using low fodmap diet just now.

i would like to know if anyone else has nausea for some time after the operation.  I am careful to stick to a bland diet but i am finding this causing me to be depressed and anxious.

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    Hi 

    some of us are left with too much bile dripping continuously into our stomach after our gallbladder is removed some are left with too little.. it sounds like yours is too much as nausea can be acidic stomach and the fact it disappears as u eat during the day .. not sure if your ibs gives you diahreah but that is another side effect of too much bile .. 

    I have too little bile and suffer constipation and the inability to digest food like bread wheat etc ... I am sure others will offer tips of how to lessen the effect of too much bile .. your gp might prepscribe a proton pump inhibitor like omeprazole to reduce the amount of acid you produce ... I am sure you will get your diet adjusted to compensate for this and your nausea will settle .. charcoal tablets etc maybe 

    yours Sally 

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      Thanks Sally, yes i agree i have too much bile.  Yes intermittent diarrhoea. Dr says try zantac at night miight cut down acid. Not convinced this is a good way to go, more pills.
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    Hello Ann

    To help my daughter she has gone into no dairy & free from foods, this has really helped her. & peppermint tea is her new best friend.

    She struggles with it like you and it is trial and error sadly.

    Buscopan helps with spasms & cramps & buccastem for anti sick, not sure I spelt that right.

    But when it's bad it's A&E sadly for the strong pain relief.

    Hopefully some of this might help you.

    Regards

    Carol

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      Did she have her gallbladder out recently?

      i also have buccastem for the nausea, which usually comes as i wake,   Have felt worse since trying Fodmap diet with Free From and no gluten or lactose.  I dont get pain.

      I am getting really depressed about all,of this. Wonderingnwhether to try the zantac.

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      Hi Ann

      Yes it was removed 26th Jan & getting worse daily.

      She is very depressed as she can no longer work due to constant pain & sickness even with just water now.

      Hopefully your GP will be better and understand it more & you will get something better to help you c

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      Hi Carol, 

      I'm so sorry to learn this.  Isn't there anything she can eat now? Did you learn anything about the results of the tests she had?

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      Hi Lynda

      Sorry late response been typing everything up for my sister she has to take her to see a pain specialist tomorrow as GP's now won't prescribe anything as they don't understand it all, total nightmare.

      She can't eat what goes in flys back out projectile vomiting with just water last night. She is so low now specialist for SOD is back on 23 so I'm just trying to get her through whatever it takes till then, ice cream from the free from range goes in & I think as it kind of melts to nothing that soothes her throat & is a little bit going in but it's tiny amounts.

      The attacks are worse without the GB , I know it had to come out but it's worse every day at the moment. Praying next week brings answers . Hope you are all ok cx

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      Hi Carol,

      Don't worry about getting back to me!  What a horrible ordeal you're both going through! Praying for you, and hoping you'll get some answers soon! xxx

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    Hi Ann,

    Sorry to learn you're going through this.  The symptoms you are describing seem to point to too much bile in your system.  IBS-D is a catch all diagnosis for a symptom with a variety of different triggers. It's basically a lazy way doctors. have of acknowledging something is wrong without having explore further to find out exactly what it is.  

    If you have too much bile you will have yellow liquid surrounding your stools, and you'll have to rush to the bathroom right after eating.  The yellow liquid is bile which is being released into your small intestine by your liver during digestion.  Sometimes bile backs up into the stomach, which can cause the nausea. Bile is an extremely caustic substance and irritates the tissues it touches.  

    Another reason for too much bile being present in your system is that a normally functioning body produces a hormone at the end of digestion that allows the bile to be reabsorbed.  In some people the hormone is not produced, which results in too much bile.  In the US a clinic has discovered a blood test to find out if this hormone is being produced.

    Besides ppi's to reduce the production of stomach acid, there is a prescription drug that can be used to control the excess bile.  If you private message me, I'll give you the name.  Most gastroenterologists know about this drug.  Are you seeing a gp?

    Best of luck to you, Ann!  Please let me know how you get on!

    I hope that  

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      Hi, thanks, i am seeing gp but we havent discussed bile acid in any detail. I think i will see if she will let me have the Q you suggested. I would do anything to feel better
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      Hi Ann, 

      You're welcome!  You might just try it.  I can see in your previous reply to Carol that you thought about trying zantac.  

      As far as I know, zantac is not a ppi.  You could look up medications that are ppi's on line though!

      Let me know how you get on!

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      Hi, the only reason i thought to try zantac is because gp suggested it last time we met. I explained about the nausea on anti deps and she said to try it.  I did have omeprazole for a week after gb taken out, but deemed not to need it for longer. It didnt make me feel very good.
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      Thanks for letting me know, so you're on meds for depression and they could be giving you nausea, instead of the gallbladder removal? Just trying to understand..

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      Yes,thats exactly it!  I just dont know where the nausea and ibs is coming from, no gallbladder, anti deps, or ibs with anxiety.
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      My suggestion is that you look at your medications on line for side effects.  Sometimes anti deps meds can cause ibs symptoms, as well as nausea.  But anxiety can cause ibs as well.  

      So, your meds could be causing it.  But you need to do some research to find out.  In my experience, doctors tell themselves that if their patients knew the side effects of what they're taking they wouldn't take any drug.  So, they don't mention side effects and hope that the patient doesn't suffer from them!

      Just a suggestion. xx

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      Lynda,

      i am not sure i mentioned I have nausea especially in mornings too - so much going on its hard to discern what is main problem.  After I had p.e's now taking the warfarin also affects some meds and i think Q is one of them

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      Hi, Ann,

      You can go on line and check out how medications interact with each other, too, by the way. It's really helpful!

      I hope you get some answers soon! xx

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      Low Fodmap diet seeemss to have stopped the diarrhoea at the moment. Stll having waking nausea though. Havent tr zantac dr gave me yet but wonder if it might help the nausea.
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      I'm glad that the diarrhea has stopped. Some people take their anti depression meds at night before bed to help with nausea.  xx

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      I take my small dose of mirtazapine at night, sleep 2 hours or so then have to take 5mg diazepam to sleep rest of night.  This is no way to run a life.  I wake each morning feeling awful and it takes till teatime to feel better, its as if the meds need to get out of my system. My body doesnt like anti depressants as they all cause me such side effects. This has been the only one i can use Nd its only at a level to produce sleep.  If i stop i get insomnia. I am getting depressed about all the things not working properly in my body and drs dont seem to be fixing me. Sorry for the rant, just venting.
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      Hi Ann,

      Well, in looking up side effects of the mirtazapine, two of the less common are nausea and vomiting.  Diazepam can also cause, dizziness, drowsiness, confusion and difficulty concentrating.  If you're taking both drugs together, they can also interact with each other.  

      So, your nausea may be caused in part by the drugs you're taking.  xx

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