Prozac has stopped working after 2 months:( now what?
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I have been on Prozac 4 months and 2 of them were better and now I'm going back to the way I was before. What do I do now? I'm so miserable and don't understand why this is happening plus I'm pregnant.
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karen76145 Dengirl29
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I have setbacks just like what you are describing. I was progressing, though not as fast as I wanted, and then at about the same timeframe as you, I had what seemed to be major setbacks and didn't know when I was ever going to get better. It's just part of the long process. I'm sorry that you are suffering. Also, like you've said, your pregnancy with all the hormones is probably affecting you, too.
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Its a long journey, but you'll get there.
K x
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I also never had a reason for being depressed and anxious - just stress that started mine off, but once I had it, it stuck to me like Teflon. I was ill on and off for about 15 years and nothing helped, but as soon as I started on the SSRI's it slowly started lifting, and around 6 months I was feeling good. I had the up and down period too and it came back every so often. Eventually it disappeared completely.
Intrusive thoughts are side effects of anxiety too. Your mind becomes tired, and thoughts begin to stick to a tired mind and end up going round and round. I had intrusive thoughts, daily, and scared myself half to death. As Karen says as you begin to recover the thoughts become less scary and lose their importance, eventually being put to the back of the mind where they came from - they really won't bother you eventually.
Remember this isn't you - this is the illness - and as you start to recover everything will be put back into perspective.
Ive been there, suffered for years and never thought I'd get better. Didn't understand it either and thought it was just me. There was no internet, so no sites like this, and kept it to myself for years.
Thank god for medicine, site like this, family, friends and people here to talk to who understand.
K x
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karen76145 Dengirl29
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I had the same types of thoughts when I had my third child. I had impulses to do things that I would never normally do, and it was very scary. Sometimes when I would be sitting in a chair and one of my children was sitting at my feet playing, I would out of the blue get the impulse to just kick them in the head, which I would normally never even think something like that. Also, when driving I have had the impulse to go off a bridge with the children in the car. When you have thoughts like that just refuse it and realize that it is not you, it is the illness and start cleaning or something else that will occupy your mind. I thought I was going crazy for a while and could not tell anyone, until I finally saw a therapist and got on prozac. They can really help you to sort through what is going on and help you to understand that you are not yourself right now. please tell them everything so that they will understand what you are going through and can help you better. When I went to therapy it did help alot to know that it wasn't the real me thinking those things and that I would get back to normal. When do you go in for therapy?
Dengirl29 karen76145
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It's so depressing thinking I
may never recover.
katecogs Dengirl29
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This thought is actually quite common do you know ..... thoughts are a symptom of anxiety and depression, and when this is alleviated the thoughts will not plague you anymore - they'll fade into the background. I never thought I'd ever get better as suffered for years, so was amazed when I did :-) When you're in the grip of it all, you can't see your way out.
I'm so sorry about your traumatic miscarriages. A very emotional time for you. Everyone has a different path that brings them to this illness, and it seems stress, emotions, trauma looks to be the main factor in a lot of cases. We all have our tipping point, and some people handle emotions and stress better than others - some even thrive on stress. It's amazing what our bodies do once we cross that point.
Not only have I suffered with this illness (luckily recovered), I've had the trauma of watching my son go through the same which hit him last year. Broke my heart. That's why I restarted my meds as didn't want to get ill again and needed to stay strong for him. He's turned the corner this year and it's great to hear him laugh again :-)
I also had strange thoughts about my loved ones ...... and like Karen says, try and remind yourself that this is the illness and not you. Don't try and stop the thoughts ..... just let them be there, as god knows they'll want to have their say. I know they're scary, but reminding yourself they WILL go when you're better is a help. Exercise is good to burn up excess adrenaline which causes anxiety, and also remind yourself that this illness makes your mind tired, and those thoughts stick to a tired mind.
Exercise, eat healthily, get to bed early, try and smile all the time even if you don't want to (smiling lifts the spirits), get a daily dose of sunshine 10 mins a day, carry on with the meds and remind yourself that you WILL get past this and of course you can up your meds after your baby is born.
I went through 2 pregnancies on different meds (tricyclics as SSRI's weren't around then) and both babies were fine. Docs kept an eye on me. It was when my son was about 2 did I start SSRI's that I recovered. He's 21 now :-)
We are just normal human beings who have an illness ...... and like other illnesses ie diabetes, epilepsy etc that have their specific symptoms, so this illness give us symptoms - one of which is intrusive thoughts.
Its a tough illness, and a tough journey on the meds ...... but you will get there and you'll look back on this as I do now.
K xx
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Glad to hear you feel a little better ..... these meds take time to work, so hopefully they're starting to kick in. You may still continue to be up and down, but the trend will be upwards eventually evening out. Thoughts are a symptom of anxiety, so as the anxiety eases and eventually stops, so will the thoughts. I didn't think I'd ever be free of them, but they don't bother me anymore.
After you've had your baby you could up your dose ...... but do it very gradually.
You can stay on the meds forever, so my doctor told me, and though I took a small dose for 15 years, I stopped 2 years ago and felt fine (with help of over the counter meds). Remember, people take life long meds for all sorts of ailments ie epilepsy, heart problems etc., and depression is no different. It's an illness just as any other.
pauline46013 katecogs
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ive read a few of your posts & they give me much needed hope at this point. I'm on week 12 & I've had the worst 4/5 days. Anxiety has been through the roof not sleeping well again and I'm starting to panic that I'm on a downward spiral I have no motivation to do anything. I thought by this stage I'd be over the worst. Feeling very despondent at the moment.
katecogs pauline46013
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Are you taking Fluoxetine? What dose?
Glad to hear my posts make you feel comforted. Sorry to hear you're going through a rough patch on meds. It does happen.
In my experience I find there seems to be a few phases to get through. First is coping with the side effects and then still having to deal with the symptoms of this illness, and second is when people often get their symptoms suddenly come back with a vengeance. Lastly is when you feel well most of the time but still continue to improve.
This second phase is where you get blips where you drop back down and foxes you into thinking you aren't getting better. They can last a few days or weeks sometimes and will pass. Best way to get through them is tell yourself they're part of getting better, carry on as calmly as you can, go for a walk daily, eat well, try and sleep (I know that's difficult), socialise if you can and just wait for it to pass. People seem to get these blips over and over for a long time, but each time they come they get slightly less intense, last less time too. Eventually you should feel well more and more. However, you may get a big one months after you think you're winning ..... again just let it pass. I had one a year after getting better and though it felt huge it probably wasn't any different to any other small ones I'd had, but because I hadn't had one for so long it seemed a shock my system. Eventually it passed.
I'm wondering if that's what you're starting to go through now.
Dont know why people get this, but probably our bodies still adjusting to the medicine.
Have you had any time at all when you've started feeling back to yourself again?
K x
pauline46013 katecogs
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Thanks for replying.
Yes I'm taking fluoxetine 20mg. I've had the side effects & then about wk 8/9 I was starting to feel better. More positive, sleeping well, more motivated & calmer but over the last few days mainly from Sunday I've felt wired. Can't settle, worrying but no energy. Not sleeping really intrusive thoughts about things that happened years ago generally worse than I did before I started them.
Went to the doctor yesterday & he advised me to hang in a bit longer that it can take time with this drug. I'm on it predominantly for menopausal anxiety I can't take HRT although I have had anxiety/ depression before but not been on fluoxetine. I started on 10mg for a couple of weeks then upped to 20 mg. I go away on Friday for 3 weeks & I don't want to feel like this. I do feel like they've stopped working or are actually giving me all the symptoms they're supposed to cure.
Pauline
katecogs pauline46013
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Ah you're showing classic signs of these blips. You start feeling well, then bang! they come back and hit you. It will disappear again, really ....... I know it's horrid, but just try and let the blip be there, don't try and get rid of it because you won't be able to. Just remind yourself that this is part of recovery ..... however bad it feels, or however long it seems to linger, it's part of recovery.
Try and accept you may not be better by Friday ... who knows what Friday will bring. Try and let it be there, go on holiday and have a great time ..... you might take the blip with you and you might bring it back, or ... you might lose it on holiday. Letting it be part of recovery, trying to stay as calm as you can, carry on and you'll find it'll disappear when it's ready.
You may have many of these, but they do seem part of recovery and most of us have been through them. Eventually they won't come anymore.
The medication doesn't stop working. It's just your body adjusting. This is part of recovery.
K x
pauline46013 katecogs
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Thanks. I was contemplating going to the docs & asking to be changed to citraplam but I'm not sure about what that would involve. You're right it is horrid when it's here & you do look for an instant cure from it. I found it to be really scary & unnerving I've had really horrible vivid dreams too. I just want it to settle.
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katecogs pauline46013
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I think it's best to carry on with the Fluoxetine for now. I don't think it's a straight forward swap from one meds to another (can't remember when I did it). You may get withdrawal symptoms from one medication and side effects of another, prolonging the agony of everything, and will possibly also end back at this same stage anyway on a different medication, so I think it's worth persevering for now.
Medication isn't a quick overnight fix - it takes a long, long time, much patience and perseverance. Many give up thinking their meds aren't working, but they fail to realise they have to get through this. The wait really is worth it.
I'm on Citalopram and my son is on Fluoxetine (yes, a right pair eh). He was very, very ill last year and it took around 5 months for the meds to work for him. He's now back to his usual self, laughing and happy.
Remember that however bad it gets, however scary and frightening, however exhausting and upsetting it all seems, just push on through telling yourself that it WILL get better and this is part of recovery.
Obviously everyone suits different medications, and it's often trial and error finding one that suits you, but you do need to give it a good 6 months on one before you can decide. It's not often you need to swap. I did swap from my initial medication but only after I took it for a few years. It worked well, made me better, but it gave me anger issues (grrrrr). Changing stopped that.
I now how bad you want it to settle, and know you can't see a way out yet, but give it time and you'll see improvements.
K x
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Hi Hollee
Glad my post helped. The meds really do help many, many people - just a shame they take so long. I never thought I'd ever recover, so was amazed when it happened. I'm just coming off meds now (on the last bit) and my son came off earlier this year.
It will happen for you - the meds are tough and don't suit everyone, but for the majority they really do work.
K xx
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I remember when I first became ill with this - I didn't know what had hit me and went around in a sort of stupor for weeks. It terrified me. My son became ill with this too 2 years ago and he spent time in bed and was unable to work for 4 months. He's recovered now too.
Seems like the meds are working for you if you're feeling better than you were at the beginning - it'll get better and better too xx
Yes these blips do suddenly appear and they can feel quite shocking, especially if you've started feeling well - you sort of forget what it felt like to be like that. Relaxing towards the feelings, letting it be there as calmly as you can does help and of course the meds do their thing too.
I also felt like I was here for ages - felt like I was in a goldfish bowl looking out and I wasn't part of conversations or the real world. Maybe its because we think inwardly so much about how we feel and are always trying to think how to stop it that it takes so much energy and makes us feel spacey. Yes I often questioned my sanity, but knew I was just a normal person caught up in weird illness.
It does get better xxx
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Thanks - yes such a relief my son is well again. It was a terrible time for us all, especially him, and I found it worse than suffering with it myself. I'd been off meds for a year at the time, and this is why I had to restart them as I needed to stay strong for him. Broke my heart watching him suffer. No mother needs to see their child go through that. Anyway, after many, many months he recovered and its fabulous to see him back to the way he was :-)
Some days will be frought with many weird and wonderful thoughts, some days full of anxiety and other days will feel you are making progress. Thoughts are usually a side effect of the illness though some people find they appear when taking the meds. Everyone has weird thoughts, whether ill or not, and people usually just dismiss them and they're forgotten about. When you're suffering with anxiety and / or depression, these thoughts shock you and cause anxiety, and because your mind is already tired from the illness, the thoughts will stick. Thoughts stick to a tired mind. As you begin to recover, the anxiety will ease, you mind will start to become freer, and when you get these thoughts they won't shock as much and won't cause anxiety - because the anxiety is easing. In time the thoughts won't bother you because they won't be acommpanied with anxiety, and eventually the thoughts will get put back where they belong - to the back of your mind, and eventualy forgotten about. They lose their impact.
As you recover you'll find its usually 3 steps forward and 2 steps back all the time.
K x
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It is frustrating to get good times and wake up to panic again ... and equally frustrating to get the thoughts. Yes you've probably got the thoughts because you're having anxiety again. I used to have thoughts and images in my head too which gave me so much anxiety. I thought I'd always be scared of them.
Remember these thoughts are all part of the illness, it's not how you'd normally think. When the anxiety eases off so will the thoughts too, and eventually neither will bother you again.
Yes this illness is the worst. Its torture, and nobody understands what its like unless they've suffered with it ... not even doctors or medical professionals.
You'll be up and down for a while - but it does get better.
K x
hollee26189 pauline46013
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I'm at this point now and interested if u got past it
hollee26189 katecogs
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I'm just reading through our msgs as u give me hope haha this weeks a bad week I've always had anxiety but could deal with it but in May my ex got arrested for domestic violence I had enough n finally spoke up n got my children n I out. After that my anxiety came crippling I had court last week against him I'm thinking it has given me a set back I'm house ridden again today n haven't bee like it for at least 6 weeks. My psyc promised I wouldn't go back this bad aggghhhhhh
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Hi Hollee! I think it's understandable for things to be tougher at the moment for you with the court date. That's understandably a really hard and stressful thing to go through. I think just give it some more time and things will settle down.
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Thanks for your reply. I'm hoping so as I really feel at square one again n I really fort hard to get tow here I am today especially leaving the house n being social again but now feel like I'm in a hole again
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I'm not surprised your anxiety has rocketed. You've been through a lot. Well done for getting yourself and children to a safer place xxx
Anxiety thrives on tension, upset, tiredness etc - and I expect you're having a rough time because of all that's happened of late, and expect last weeks court appearance is now coming out this week in your body. It's just reacting and is having a blip due to all the heightened tension which is all now pouring out. In time as your body begins to relax, you'll find your anxiety will lessen.
Its really good if you can 'let go' of tension. If you really take note of your body, you might find you're holding it tensely, maybe clenching you jaw tightly too without realising it. Try releasing this tension (letting go) .... you don't have to just sit doing it, you can move around, do anything ..... but try doing it in this released/letting go manner and sort of 'float along'. Over time your body will naturally want to do it and also the anxiety will lessen.
Yoga helps too. If you can't get out at the moment to a class, look at YouTube for a Beginners session. It really helps to strengthen and relax the body.
With the help of the meds too this will all help to heal your body.
Ahhhh .... even psyc's can't promise that your body will do what it naturally wants to do.
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I've been very light headed it's so scary I went to the Drs today and he said I'm on a mg that he gives to 8 year old so he doubled my dose. Im in Australia my tablets are called loven 20 I'm so scared to double it incase I get the bad side effects again. But on the other hand I want to feel normal.... Thanks for your reply I re read your comments over and over again yesterday it really helped me xxxx
katecogs hollee26189
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Lightheadedness can be because you're feeling very tense, and of course the medication causes weird side effects too at times, so probably a combination.
Your doctor would give these meds to an 8 year old? Mmmm. So what dose are you on now? You might get some side effects again with an increase, but it will pass.
I'm sure once you find the correct dose, these meds will really help you. You will get there xx
K xx
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I am on loven 20mg but they equal to a 10mg for normal anxiety tabs I'm going up to 4g today
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Hi akila
That's perfectly normal and it'll happen often through recovery of these meds. These blips will come and go and just means your body and the meds are still adjusting. No you don't need to increase meds - it actually means the meds are working.
Just accept this blip for now - it'll pass. Expect to have others - they get easier as time passes and will eventually stop.
Just keep going - it can take a long while.
K x
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It will come back every so often and it usually feels worse than before, but its not really but just feels it after some relief because we tend to forget how it feels. However your morning might feel doesn't mean it'll be like that for the rest of the day - even if it only slightly improves. Mornings are usually the worse time for sufferers.
Often what happens is that you get caught in a cycle of anxiety / fear / anxiety ..... you have anxiety, this frightens you which causes more anxiety, and of course anxiety is the very thing you are trying to recover from. So you get in the cycle of anxiety causing you fear and more anxiety. Anxiety also causes negative thinking, racing mind, physical symptoms, panic ... again all of which cause more distress and anxiety which adds to the pot.
To recover from anxiety you mustn't recoil from it - let it be there (however bad it feels), get on with life, let those thoughts be there, acknowledge them and know they're part of anxiety, again get on with life .... all this helps break that cycle and over time with continued practice the anxiety will start to ease. You can't step out of anxiety in an instant, which is what most people want. You have to step aside, stop fighting it, and allow your body to heal ... which it will do. But I know the natural instinct is to run and fight it - which only reinforces it.
The meds will also help break this cycle, but of course it too will take a long time to happen. People who panic at the mere glimpse of anxiety only reinforce it - but ride along with it (and yes it will be uncomfortable) then the anxiety will start to ease. This won't happen tomorrow or next week, but it will over a long time.
If you've had 2 good months then it sounds like you're doing well and on the right track. These blips will come back at times though and its actually during those that practicing to 'roll with the punches' helps it pass quicker than fighting it. Its like allowing a hurricane to rage about you whilst you carry on - ignoring it. It will pass over. Not easy I know .....
K x
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Hi
Yes it does get better, little by little. Do you have to tell him you're taking medicine? Even if you decide to though, I always say that taking this medicine is no different to someone needing to take medicine for epilepsy, a heart condition, high blood pressure, diabetes etc etc ......... if you need the medicine to help you as with any other condition then there's nothing wrong with it.
My husband knew I took medicine when we first met - I told him I had anxiety and the meds helped me. Its a very common condition.
K x
akila00528 katecogs
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So its something you have to reveal? Maybe just say to him you need to take medicine for a medical condition? I told my husband before we married and he just 'oh, ok' and it didn't bother him.
K x
akila00528 katecogs
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Sorry to disturb you by wtiting this..but i am feeling scared
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Hi Akila
Blips will come and go throughout recovery - even after you think you've recovered there may be the odd one the crops up. They're all part of recovery. It doesn't mean you're ill again, but just that more time is needed.
Treat each blip the same - let it come, let it be there, don't question it, don't fear it and don't run from it. Get on with life and take the blip with you. Anxiety brings about negative thinking and fearful thoughts too - again with these just let them be there in the background, don't try and get rid of them. Don't engage with them and you'll find that they'll pass. Don't expect the blip (anxiety / thoughts) to disappear overnight, but with continued acceptance of their presence and preserving in a relaxed manner with life you'll find they'll slowly tail off. It could take some days or weeks ... but it will go.
I know its scary feeling like this, but having that fear of anxiety is running away. You can't turn off this fear I know, but by accepting the anxiety will be with you for a while, 'ignoring' it however it might feel, getting on with life then this is the way forward. This is facing the fear not running.
Its not easy I know ...
No I wouldn't increase your dose. A bigger dose won't cure a blip instantly, and in fact it'll heighten your symptoms first. If you've been feeling good and now have this blip then its just a question of applying the above and waiting it out. It really will pass.
Blips are an important part of recovery - its during these that you can practice what is needed to move forward.
K x
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