PVNS: experience and causes
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I recently got diagnosed with the fairly rare condition called Pigmented villonodular synovitis (PVNS) a disorder which affects joints. In my case, it was my knee joint, as is often the case.
I'm posting this to help others better identify and understand this condition, and also to explore any possible causes.
PVNS is very easily misdiagnosed by GP's. It was misdiagnosed twice in my case, by two different doctors.
Because it's more common in the 30's and 40's age group, and the symptoms are similar to arthritis, it can be misdiagnosed as the early onset of arthritis of the knee/joint in people who are in the upper end of this age bracket.
In the case of the PVNS affecting the knee joint which results in a tumour growth at the back of the knee (as in my own situation), because the condition often arises after a trauma to the knee joint, the condition can be misdiagnosed as a simple lingering knee injury, leaking joint fluid, giving rise to a Bakers Cyst.
The symptoms of PVNS are both sporadic and very similar to both an ordinary knee injury and arthritis as the condition progresses. The joint becomes stiff and movement restricted. It's usually painless in the early stages but as it progresses it causes mild to moderate discomfort with a persistent burning pain around the joint area.
If left untreated, PVNS in its advanced stages, can render the joint completely unusable, requiring a complete joint replacement.
Here's my own experience of PVNS:
I was taking Tramadol (a painkiller) for back pain and was heavily into exercise and was also carrying a heavy bicycle every day up and down stairs. I injured my knee. This was due to the Tramadol I believe. My pain tolerance threshold was at a much higher level, so the injury didn't fully register and I continued exercising and carrying the bicycle, further straining the already injured knee.
Two years later, the knee joint gradually became stiffer and a lump appeared at the back of the knee. It became so stiff I could no longer crouch or bend down to tie my shoe laces. I went to the doctor and was misdiagnosed as mentioned. The second GP ruled out arthritis from an x-ray and to confirm his diagnosis of a leaking joint and Bakers Cyst, he requested an ultrasound scan of the joint. The scan showed an overgrowth on the lining of the knee joint and a tumour growth, resulting in a PVNS diagnosis by an orthopedic consultant.
A proof-positive diagnosis is carried out from sample by examining cells under the microscope from the joint which have the typical PVNS-like abnormal characteristic.
There's two forms of PVNS, localised and diffused. The localised version is what I have. It is a lot easier to treat using key-hole surgery with a better prognosis for recovery. Diffused PVNS affects the entire joint lining, requiring open surgery to remove all of the knee lining and it has a much higher risk (almost 50%) of returning, and requiring extensive physiotherapy.
PVNS is quite a rare condition as I mentioned. Therefore it's not encountered very much by GP's and there hasn't been much research done into the causes of the condition or why it returns in many sufferers. It's not thought to be hereditary, and as I mentioned, trauma to the affected joint is a common feature.
This leads me to wonder if certain medicines, or activities, may cause the condition. As I mentioned, in my own case I was taking Tramadol (at a normal dose of 50mg once daily) for several years, both prior to, and after my knee injury.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone else out there who suffers with PVNS and their backgrounds, in particular:
Anyone who has developed PVNS while being on Tramadol or similar drugs?
Anyone who has developed PVNS after a sports or work related injury, which they ignored?
How much time elapsed from any initial injury to PVNS symptoms and diagnosis?
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deb05209 morphix
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The pain level, restriction of movement of my knee, unable to flex my knee and the general restrictions of not being able to kneel on this knee or squat down. The pain has gradually become very intense over the last 6 months and I was referred to a pain management specialist. Not diagnosed as yet. He changed my meds around, stated he was going to write a long referral letter to a pain management clinic in my home town and they would contact me to set up a time to begin treatment for the pain level. That was 5-6 weeks ago and I have heard nothing as yet. Then these results from my MRI queried PVNS. I have no doubt that the 4 previous surgeries to this knee have greatly contributed to, if not caused this tumour in me. Treatment has not been discussed as yet, waiting for the outcome from the conference my surgeon has had with this professor.
Im reasonable sure that no matter the diagnosis, it may be a bit of a tough and challenging road ahead.
My main aim is to have a lot less or no pain as the ideal outcome. I have had extreme pain on and off ( mainly on ) over the last 4-5 years and am desperately in need of less pain, more movement and a much better quality of life.
I still have 2 teenage boys to look after, who do need a fair bit of care and I would like our quality of life as a family to blossom.
Should have answers within the next week, so fingers crossed, it won't be the worst case scenario.
I am extremely grateful that I had an MRI requested by my surgeon to do prior to our next visit. I was starting to think that I was maybe going a tad crazy. Was I imagining this much pain? Was my brain stuck in a neurological loop? Deep down I knew the pain was very real and very painful. At least now we can look at the causes, treat and heal.
Oldfatguy1 deb05209
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When people would ask - every time - "So ,whats actually wrong with your knee this time" I'd attempt to explain, and even had prepared a simplified medical artical for them to read. Their eyes would just glaze over with non-comprehension and then I'd get "My Brother had an arthroscopy once and that worked just fine, I'll get his Surgeon's number for you" Well meaning but nonetheless insulting.
In the end, I realized that it was easier for people to decide that you just couldn't get your sh*t together and find good help. So they'd decide you had mental issues, and were perhaps an attention seeker, a hypochondriac or something.
So whilst I was being smashed with pain, inconvenience, finance & job impacts, I was also being judged poorly by the ignorance of people who simply couldn't/wouldn't understand the issue. Indeed the best supportive discussions I had were the 'online' ones in forums like this, with other victims of this disease.
My Surgeon - Assoc Proff Musc/Skeletal & Tumour Reconstruction, at RAH - had only ever treated one other patient with agressive difuse PVNS like mine, and indicated to me that sadly, she eventually developed mental problems... couldn't cope with it all.
PVNS has taken me down a bumpy road, and had amassive impact on my financial security, career opportuniies, and my out look on life. I appreciate everything/everyone I deem a friend so much more, and I have some amazing long term friends that I've met through mutual struggles with PVNS. One of whom, I'm happy to say has since beaten PVNS and will be at my wedding next January.
My best advice is to be firm with people, and if they ask, you implore them to listen carefully to your explanation. Be assertive about it, and if they glaze over, then from that point you answer every subsequent question with a polite dismissal until they demonstrate that they're ready to listen.
My fight with PVNS is over too now. In the end, I lost the battle, and my knee joint, but I won the war and have my life back. No more surgery now, because I have a fully metal prosthetic knee joint (and one third of my femur) and mobility is fabulous. Since May 2014, when they excised my knee joint, I've now built up to the point where I can easily walk 20km a day without issue or pain. Indeed a great result!
breaun_57026 morphix
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My name is Bree. I was recently told by my ortho that I had pvns in my knee.
I have had a lot of pain for over a year now and I was told I had a sprain in my acl and then a tear in the pcl. well they were wrong and told me I actually had this diease pvns. I am supposed to get surgery next month, Arthoscopy. They didnt give me info. but said it should be an out patient surgery. Has anyone had this done and went home the same day?
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