Really bad derealisation
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Hello eveyone
I have had a very hard time for about 3 months from derealisation and anxiety that I got from exam stress but I can't help but think I have a problem with my heart. I get strong heart beats, flutters and tightness and occasional chest pain and despite constant reassurance from doctors that it is absolutely fine I still think it isn't in good shape. I am scared to go out for jogs because of my fear and the one time I went the gym to get my mind clear my heart was pounding but im still unsure if thats due to me worrying about it in the back of my mind. My derealisation had got better but then goes really bad which worsens my anxiety. I do have good days but I mainly have bad ones , I am also having strange thoughts about reality which is making me feel crazy, am I going crazy?, Im only 17 and I just want to be back to my old self before going through all this
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zoopanzee Smeagul247
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Sorry to hear you're having a tough time. It is however, such a familiar story and for that reason there's cause for hope. If you look over this site you'll see the same stories coming up again and again. We all have anxiety and the symptoms are very similar. If you want to get down to the nub of it, we're all afraid of the same thing - our response to anxiety, our fear. We're afraid of fear itself, or at least our physical reaction to fear. Someone has a phobia of spiders, another is scared of lifts, someone else doesn't like social situations...etc. but these are just triggers. The common factor is that we're all afraid of our own fear process.
The key to tackling it is to embrace it as part of you. You say, like many others that you just want to be back to your old self and this can be a troubling denial stage. This is you. And believe it or not, you may be thankful for it. Sounds crazy doesn't it, but your anxiety, sensitivity to the world, is all part of you. You may bring your anxiety 'disorder' under control, but you will likely always be a fairly anxious person. It's who you are so don't try to run from it, instead enquire into it, learn how to manage it, deep relaxation, exercise and whole foods are an excellent start. Until you get to grips with this aspect of yourself, it might also be a good idea not to touch alcohol or drugs. Stay clean and strong and don't run in fear, this only strengthens the symptoms of anxiety. Remember everything passes, even when you don't want it to. Anxiety attacks have a lifespan, they are linked to adrenaline and your fear feeds it. Take care, you will be fine but it takes time and yearning for the past 'you' won't help. Look into the nhs online 'fearfighter' it's based on CBT therapy and is very good - used for depression, anxiety, phobias etc.
Also, Keep in touch with your doctor of course, it might be that you need some anti - anxiety meds initially but don't just take them without doing a little work on your being too.
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I'm late to this party but had to make an account and post. I've been searching everywhere to find what I was experiencing. Not being able to find accurate descriptions from psych articles or other people reinforced thoughts that what I was experiencing was unique and ineffable which made my anxiety worse or feel I was going schizo, so it's helped a lot to see people experiencing exactly what I do. It really is so hard to explain. Along with the 'classic' symptoms of GAD and Depersonalisation I always feel like everything is menacingly alien. I feel deprogrammed from the normal way of perceiving the world everyone else (including myself up to a point) has since birth. The moon is no longer that ubiquitous night-light painted onto the night sky, now it's an incomprehensibly huge body of rock, floating there without purpose, terrifying me at its mere existence. The concept of 'existence' terrifies me in its abstract nature, despite never experiencing non-existence. Unanswerable questions like not knowing what it feels like to be dead and never resume consciousness terrify me. I look at someones face and I dont see a 'soul' or whatever I see an object with a collection of sensory organs. I understand all these posts. It's a concept that cant really be explained to someone that hasn't felt it but it permeates every single facet of existing and makes every waking second a challenge. I understand why they used to call GAD 'panphobia'. I really am so glad someone has talked about this all-encompassing anxiety at the absract concept of 'being'. I tried looking up 'existential anxiety' but its got nothing to do with angst about my place in the world its more the 'why' of me being a thinking feeling meat machine and not being able to come to terms with it. No, it's beyond that. It's an inability to come to terms with the fact that the fabric of existence is a thing at all. Anxiety caused by a thing being a thing. It makes no sense, which is why it's so scary. I cant overcome it because it cant be confronted.
There is one thing I get that I've not heard of anyone else getting. Sometimes I wake up in an intense state of confusion and depersonalisation. I wake up feeling like my body doesn't belong to me, and my sense of touch is so inexplicably weird. I dont know who I am or where I am or have really uncomfortable dissociative experiences like being multiple people at once or other weird and ineffable feelings like that. I also get a really awful and intense hyper-awareness of being a biological machine. I feel my lungs expanding and my blood pumping and feel fragile and just...wrong. I wake up in this state and have to wake myself up fully and do yoga stretches before I can make another attempt at sleep. Often I lie there with my eyes closed for ages in this state of torture before realising that I'm even awake.
Anyway just knowing you are all in the same awful awful boat as me helps in its own way
Chilligans Inchpunch
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Inchpunch, you've beautifully described the ineffable and terrifying experience of depersonalization/derealization. What you said about waking up in a state of confusion, that is something I've personally experienced several times and is actually an extremely common (albeit uncomfortable) dissociative experience. My absolute best advice is to seek out therapy. After that, and I'm sure I've posted this more than once on here, a big part of overcoming DP is accepting it. When I first began noticing/experiencing my symptoms, I was terrified at the lack of connection I felt to others due to feeling a lack of 'humanity' when looking at them. At this point, that feeling may persist at times, but I've realized that they remain human despite my strange feelings and that I can simply let those feelings be a push forward in my connections with other people. As with all forms of anxiety, the less time you spend preoccupied with the anxiety and the more time you spend living life in spite of feeling it, the less control and impact it has on you. The road you take to get to this point is something a therapist can help you with. If you want to ask me anything else I will answer to the best of my ability. Have an amazing day
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"I've really been tangled up in my thoughts and they are quite disturbing. I have been finding it strange being a human being and some people look alien like... Also the fact that humans have things like arms and legs seem weird."
this struck such a cord with me! it's exactly how I think and I've been trying for so long to find a similar description online to it, I tried existential anxiety and that was similar but this is exactly me. I get thoughts about why we look like we do, why do we have arms and legs, do humans actually look strange? the thought of eyes and mouths? why don't we have fur? these odd pointless thoughts, I get a tightness in my chest and just feel awful. I find if I read books about humanity and the human body I feel a bit better, a doctor told me I have pure O which is like OCD but with thoughts, and rather than washing my hands to feel better I read books or go online and read things about humans, this is such a relief to hear of someone else who is going through the same thing!
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