Recurrent Cystitis (HELP!)

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Hello, i am a 20 year old female and have suffered with cystitis since i was 16. It was only when i started dating my current partner who i have been with for a year and 5 months, that i noticed my symptoms were more recurrent. I deal with recurrent cystitis on a day to day basis, even when i don't have intercourse. I recently was transferred to my local hospital by my GP as the urine samples came back negative. They done a scan and everything seemed normal with my kidneys and bladder. Went back a couple of weeks later and was told i need to pee at least 3 litres for 3-4 weeks. Even though i don't drink nearly enough i just feel  there is a deeper cause. I have had thrush which i was given medication for, not sure if it worked or not but is it possible to get thrush inside of the urethra? because i was only treated for external thrush. I have struggled severely with depression because of this i am also scared it will push my boyfriend away as i rarely go out because of it and he misses out on doing stuff with me as a couple even though we live together it is nice to get out together too. I really hope someone can give me some answers on what i should do as i am really hard on myself about it. 

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    Hello, just updating everyone on my cystoscopy. I arrived at the hospital at 7:30am and was taken to the ward around 7:50am. Where i was given 2 hospital gowns to wear, one for my front and the other i used as a housecoat to cover my back and long socks used to prevent blood clots. I then was given a bag to put my belongings in. Once i was settled in i had a quick check up to make sure my blood preassure and temperature was ok. It did take an hour or so before i was taken to theatre. I was then wheeled into a room before taken into theatre where they put the tube in my arm to feed me my medication and the general anesthetic. It was quite painful getting it put into my hand and the pain did stay with me until i got into theatre. When i was wheeled into the theatre room they walked me through everything they were doing. I got hooked up and was fed medication first which i was told can make me feel really light headed which it did but i just closed my eyes to block it out and then i opened them to them telling me they were just going to give me the general anesthetic which was the last thing i can remember from it all. I then woke up in the recovery room in my bed. I felt like i had to urinate really badly when i woke up all i could think about was going to the toilet. But they gave me a urine hat (not sure what the real name for it is called) which looks like the sick hats you are given when you feel nausea as i had to wait for the nurse to wheel me back into the ward before i could use the loo. When i was wheeled back throw i must have ran back to the toilet 3 times before i felt comfortable enough to even think about leaving the hospital. I was given a sandwhich and the nurse was nice enough to run back and forward for me filling my cup up with fresh water so i could try and flush my system out. When i felt comfortable i got back into my clothes and was checked over again to make sure i was ok to be discharged from the hospital (i.e blood preassure and temperature). I also had to be able to hold down food, water and be able to urinate before i could leave and go home. Which i could so was discharged within and hour of coming out of my general anesthetic. Thankfully nothing showed up in my procedure but i now have closure and can cross it out of my list. I am still going to ask my doctor about referring me to a Gynochologist to get everything checked out. As i am now stuck in the position where i don't really know where to go from here. I just want to get better and not suffer any more. But for anyone who is going in for a cystoscope and going under a general anesthetic, you do not have anything to worry about. Staff registered in the NHS are so helpful and reassuring and i couldn't have had better nurses/surgeons to help me through it all. Will keep you's all updated with what my next move will be. Right now i have a sore head and feel a bit tired but i felt that way before i even went into theatre. Your hand can hurt after theatre for a while. I got home about 2:30pm and it still occasionally hurts but you kind of expect it to and still get some pain passing urine but it is just natural. I was given pain realivers but trying not to take them at the moment as some of them have side effects which can have an impact later on in life so just going to get better the natural way, loads of fresh water and ice for my hand if needed. 

    Thank you for standing by my journey, i am sure i will update this again soon. 

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    Hello Emma, Drinking a lot of water will definitely help you to prevent the cystitis. It is also commonly advised to drink lots to treat cystitis if symptoms start. You can also take a low dose of antibiotic regularly. One dose each night will usually reduce the number of bouts of cystitis.
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      Hello Joanna. I have been drinking more than i used to, i still feel there is an underlying problem to this as i have suffered with them as much as i have in the past year and a half and it is something i want to get fixed as soon as possible as it is ruining my life. I don't want to be taking antibiotics all my life if i don't need to especially when i don't know the real cause of this. Just going to see what my gp suggests on my next visit to see him.
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    Hi Emma  glad to hear youve got it over and done with and it wasn`t too bad an experience.  But leaves you and many of us with that odd feeling of relief nothing bad has been found, but still with symptoms. l guess youll be seeing gp or urologist for report, as they often do a biopsy at same time, also advice on symptoms.  l had the scan today, hard work going as l felt very nauseous, but got there, only a l5min job and  she couldnt see anything much amiss, a small cyst on left kidney, and slight retention after going, but neither thing a big problem, apparently, read  another poster a while since who got same results, so will see what urologist and gp say next. So of course its a relief nothing looks bad, but symptoms still a problem, so its ongoing, as seems case with many for all manner of problems and  symtpoms when scans, scopes are neg. So l,m also drinking plenty. with water bottle always at hand, and see what urologists gp says on next visit. l hope your symptoms improve, too early to know yet, but its possible, keep us posted.  Take care 
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      Hello Lynee. It is a relief to finally get it over and done with, the worst part of the experience for me was definitely waking up and needing to use the loo urgently and the pain from passing urine. My hand was sore but bearable. I just hate being around other people when i have really bad bout of cystitis/urine infection. I don't know if they took a tissue sample. I don't think they did but i will double check with my gp tomorrow. I am a bit disappointed that i am still suffering with recurring cystitis so going to ask my gp what they would suggest on my next appointment to see them as i would love to be able to work and do more things with my bf but right now it doesn't seem possible for me but i will definitely let you know my next plan of action and hopefully i have more luck there. Take Care and Thank you. 
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    Hello Everyone. So it has got to the point that my cystitis has just took over my life completely. The cystoscope just made it worse and even though I am a bit annoyed I put myself through it for the results to come back negative. I feel that I have ticked off a lot of boxes. I am now crying out for help with ANY suggestions of what it could be causing me to have recurrent cystitis. Bearing in mind I have had a scan, cystoscope and been checked for thrush and urine infections and all came back negative.

    I have a wedding to go to in late July and I REALLY need this to be healed before then so any answers would be greatly appreciated

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    Emma

    I too had negative results on occasions but still the burning continued.  I wrote on this site because I truly believe that I may be able to assist you with getting better, as I did.  D Mannose also works well to heal the raw lining of the bladder.  The probiotic I now take daily has also made a tremedous difference. 

    See https://patient.info/forums/discuss/recurrent-cystitis-help--399012?page=0#1435667

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      I get cystitis every day wither it is mild or severe. I don't want to be taking supplements all my life that is why I want to get to the route cause of why I am getting so many and if I start taking d mannose how will I know that my cystitis won't just return when I stop the course?...Plus how do you find out if you have e-coli?

      Thank you

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      Hi Emma - I do not take supplements continually, I take D Mannose to get rid of an established infection. Some people find that after taking it, they don't actually get another infection for years, (this was the case with my daughter-in-law and two of my work colleagues I introduced D Mannose to) others may have an infection once a year or less.  Some of us women just get UTIs for no reason that can be found hence endless amounts of posts on this site and others.  I too wanted to get to the route of what was causing my infections but I never did.  I had extensive tests done, first on the NHS and they found nothing wrong and then I went private via my firm's insurance.  The private test turned up nothing either.   Once bacteria finds it's way into your bladder, it can cause havoc for years - antibiotics do not kill all of the bacteria, much of it hides behind what's called biofilms. 

      Whatever you choose, I wish you well.

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    Hi Emma,. So sorry to hear your having problems still, it seems to be the way for many following tests, scans, scope to find cause, l,m still waiting for cystascope, and know it can make you sore and irritated,  but still worthwhile to have it done to look for causes, mine  diagnosed intersticial cystitus for me years ago, with meds to help. But last few months having probs again, usual stinging heat in urethra lower tum with low back and hip aching, recently same higher up back and sides,  but now nausea big problem for me also.

    l do know about d mannose as its been reccomended by c.o.b people for few years, many with ic use it, and thats more inflammation than bacteria, rare for me to get bacterial cystitus, though irony is l did get a bout of it a week before cystascope,a bad bout, helped delay the scope, so you can get both ic and bacteria, or underlying bacteria, and know a lot who use it and think it helps. Julie prompted me on reading post a few days ago, looked on ebay, they do sell it, so will give it a try. Lets hope we get help soonx

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    Hello ladies. Been a while since I have posted. Hope you are all doing well and beating cystitis. I however am still struggling with recurrent bouts of cyst
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      *cystitis but I bought some D-Mannose haven't actually tried them yet and that is why I am actually posting on this today. I Am quite a paranoid person about taking medication online from websites I have never heard of before, even if it is natural. So I was wondering if any of you or anyone looking at this post has taken the supplement before and wither they experienced any bad side effects from it? As I want to be sure what I am taking is safe. Would really appreciate anyone's advice on the matter x

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      HI emma, dont know what your last post is saying due to moderation, will look tomorrow, sorry to hear your still having problems, has your doc said anything new to find cause or help.  l had my cystascope cancelled at pre op assess due to having bacterial cystitus, and being unwell, anestatist not happy to go ahead. Anyway urologist arranged for flexible cystoscopy, which wasnt as bad as l thought, and only took l0min. He didnt find inflammation or reason for pain or nausea, but fold type pockets in bladder, can lead to some retention, not serious, but also said my urethra was narrow, and spoke about doing dilation of it, but as l can pass urine ok, with good flow, l,m reluctant to have my urethra messed with, will talk to him at next appt. So not much wiser as cause of symptoms, re pelvic pain, heat sorenss in urethra, but its not constant, and nausea settled down quite well, l am taking mannose, larginine,

      l,m also taking probiotics, although the anti b daily did help keep cystitus at bay l think it upset my stomach and gave me thrush a lot,

      a juggling act, so at present not taking it daily, only if l feel niggling. so thats where l,m at till l hear from urology again  Sorry to hear yours is problematic, do you see urologist again, did they definetly rule out intersticial cystitus or it being a gyny problem.

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      Emma I have posted information about D Mannose, dosage etc and this site have not printed it because I gave details of the company I source my D Mannose from.  I too was SO SCARED AND PARANOID about taking something I was unaware of but I was so desperate I took and and it worked.  I find the D Mannose power much more effective than the tablets.  You cannot overdose on it and if you take too much you may experience diarrhea - personally I take higher doses because I find it kicks the cystitis/uti out quicker and I would much rather have a bit of tummy upset than the agonising burning cystitis causes.  This stuff cannot fail to work on 90 of bladder infections and works for me.  There are many places you can buy D Mannose from, reputable sites.  It is very much about dosage with D Mannose, some need more, others less.  Personally, I need to take it like I would an antibioitic for 5-10 days, 1 heaped teaspoon every 2 hours for 3 days then slowly reduce.  Others take a lesser dose.  Give it a good few hours to work it's magic as I feel sure if you take it every two hours for the first couple of days it will kick it out.  You may find that if you suddenly stop because you experience relief, the bacteria will return so do not stop too soon!!
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      Lynne I noticed your comment when replying ot Emma - I have started taking a probiotic too (I mentioned this also in an earlier post) but I take one that is for womens health ie populates our lady gardens with good bacteria!!  This probiotic has been a brilliant preventative.  The D Mannose will rid me of an established infection and the probiotic stops the bad bacteria getting a grip.  The first one I used gave me serious heartburn and I had to research another one which is great.  I am unable to name give names on this site as they appear not to allow this but don't give up on your probiotic - change your brand and buy one that is specifically for vaginal health which will not give you thrush but instead will get rid of it!!!
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      hi thanks for info, l,d known about mannose for quite a while, as l belong to cob group, for help advice with intersticial cystitus and theyve been strongly advicing mannose for quite a while, then saw your post and it prompted me to give it a go, l also use l,arginine for ic, Then adviced to use probiotics, when diagnosed with bit of gastritus, l,d actually been taking anti bs as a preventative for ic flares for a few years, one kefalex a day, as urologist prescribed, and they did keep flares down,  not even sure if that set the gastritus off, so  l stopped the anti bs, and of course the thrush another side affect, l often get coating on my tongue with bad taste, but think the supplaments are helping, slowly improving along with small plain meals.  Will check out other types of probiotics. 
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      Yeah sorry about that, i was on my phone and accidently clicked reply and then the moderators ended up tweaking my reply and took it the suppliers name i mentioned. No they haven't said anything new unfortunately. Aw did you? That's a shame you couldn't go through with it. Though believe me the pain you get afterwards is horrendous. I had to run to the loo about 5 times and drink like 5 cups of water to settle my bladder, then some people are left with a UTI after it as well, like i did. At least you got one of the scopes done. The Rigid one is mainly just used to take a tissue sample as well as looking into the bladder. Though i don't think they even took a tissue sample which i wish they did as the reason i went in for it was to get everything tested so it would narrow down the search to my recurrent cystitis. So do you think that could be the problem to your reccurent cystitis as i heard that can be a cause?...Yeah, it's a risk only you can decide wither you are willing to take. It could help but then it might not. Never heard of Larginine before, what is it exactly?...It has been problamatic for a while now, wish i would just find a cure for it but like i said i am still to take the D-Mannose i bought which think i am just going to push myself to take them today as i don't know until i try. Nope that is mean finished with the Urology appointments. Next step is the gynaecologist and no i do not know for sure if i have IC or not but they never mentioned it after my op so i am guessing i don't have IC (Touch wood anyways) lol and i put myself up to going to the gynaecologist. Just waiting to hear back if i got put on the list or not. 

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      Aw i see, i bought the tablet version so hopefully they work for me as i paid a lot for them with no expectations on wither they will work or not, lol! I think i just get paranoid in case it is tampered with as all you hear is teenagers or young adults buying beauty tablets online and being hospitilised because of it so i am as you can tell quite a cautious person of what i take online. Yeah, i am going to take my first tablet soon actually, just hope it works and is safe. I will definitely let you know how i get on anyways smile

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      hi, l dont think the pockets or narrow urethra cause my symptoms,  pockets might  cause a bit of short term retention,  but my flow is ok. l saw it on monitor as they looked round bladder, thinking oh so lve got pockets as well, but they or l couldnt see inflammation, so glad but back

      to sq one, as with so many on mbs, they get all clear, neg results for blood tests, scans, scopes and still got symptoms, but as my son says there are so many things that dont get tested for. l,ll talk with them buit probably wont have dilation, when its not causing symptoms, but it could set some off. Guess l was wrong, beginning to think mine is caused by after affects of surgery, second csection leaving adesions maybe nerve damage, although l get bouts of niggly frequency, its not a big problem, l do get bad pelvic pain, lower hips under butt top back of legs, but occassionaly tracking up sides, so now thinking pelvic probs that affect bladder at times, every thing is so close with women. Plus today nausea bad again, hoping scope would bring cause of that, no such luck. l,ll go in and talk to gp this week, take it from there, and keep on with supplaments, l understand your anxiety, l can be same with any new meds, but l worry more about script ones than supplaments, but take all with caution.  It was said l,arginine helped with ic bladder, a supplament again, l get it from h and b, but notice in recent years those who go in for body building seem to take it, l think its a general thing to build up tissue muscle, l guess it was shown to build up the bladder a bit, as its not done any building on the  rest of my body, a wreck,lol,   whether and how much its helped the bladder l,m not sure, but we have to  try some of the things that are reccomended or researched as helping, the cob group-cystitus overactive bladder group,  reccomend stuff.  So we join the club of had the tests and no what l havent got, now find the test that show what we  have got, a drag, but will keep on with supplaments and diet, and back to gp,. l think l and some others just dont have great immune systems and prone to allergies, but  lets hope eveyone gets a cause and treatment to help with symptoms soon. 

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