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Refused P.I.P despite my condition and illnesses

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kay13565
kay13565

Received the letter yesterday not elidgable for P.I.P, I am currently on E.S.A and in the support group, i suffer from Lupus SLE, Rheumatoid Arthritus, Osteophorosis, severe Mitral valve steniosis

mitral valve regurgitation irregular heart beat that misses a beat or runs to fast because of the strain on my heart which then causes me to black out i have had my heart stopped and restarted again on a few occassions i cant walk far cant go up a flight of stairs without resting half way due to breathlessness and sometimes i am unable to breath properly, yet they tell me they(the dwp) have decided i can walk more than two hundred metres run up a flight of stairs with ease attend to various tasks in the house cooking cleaning meal preperation and so on and so on , i am able to budget plan my journeys speak to other people and do not get flustered in a group situation and yes i agree i can budget i can speak to people and no being part of a group do not fluster me. theres nothing wrong with my mental health and as for holding a conversation yes i can do that as well do they expect you to be in a state of vegitation because you apply for this benefit as for the other things i can do that this lady has decided yes i can do them she is amazing she knows more about me than i do and if i could do all of these things she has decided i can do, i wouldnt have applied for the benefit. who do these people think they are when they are telling you and i quote "i have decided that you can" do this that or the other oh has she really so how come last week i was stranded in my bathroom unable to walk down the stairs or even move a muscle untill my husband came home she wouldnt have been so adamant in her decissions on that day. I find it very frustrating that no one knows your illnesses or conditions better than yourself yet you have these people who are not medically trained telling you they have decided you can do it. i would love to see her complete some of the tasks she is so adament i can do when she is racked with pain from head to toe unable to open her hands and grab anything and when her legs just simply wont walk and then to top it all the length of time it takes to get going your heart is under severe strain and breathlessness takes over. i just wonder how she would manage and cope, not very well in my opinion.

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  • nadnad
    nadnad kay13565

    Posted

    Hi, with all what you have and they refused your pip so we don't stand a chance , I hope this decision will not put you down , fight for your right as you are a disabled person , appeal and hopefully you will get your pip ,gather a lot of medical reports and a letter from your Gp and if you can get the social services involved in your care . Take care and try not to think about it now you don't want the stress now , with Christmas and new year , they are not working and they don't care anyway.. Merry Christmas and happy new year and stay calm no stress .call cab and make an appointment with them the first week of 2016 .good luck 
    • kay13565
      kay13565 nadnad

      Posted

      Hello, thank you so much for your kind words, and understanding

      very merry christmas to you and a healthy happy prosperus new year for you,kindest regardsx

  • les59996
    les59996 kay13565

    Posted

    I hear what you say you can't do, but have you produce independant medical evidence that backs up everything that you have claimed for?

    Plus PIP is not about paying out on what you say you can't do, but only on how well you fit the descriptors and at what level.

    You will have to ask for a MR then if that fails go to appeal.

    I have problems and because of them if I don't take all of my medicatiion the DWP thought it right that I should get High Mobility & Middle Care indefinitely DLA. Going for PIP is something totally different. You have to pass the descriptors at the right level by producing good evidence for PIP and you are assessed on the basis of how you are whilst taking all of your medication. So if you take pain killers and in doing so it reduces the pain, then that is how you are tested.

    • kay13565
      kay13565 les59996

      Posted

      Hi Les, yes all the medical evidence has gone to them from my rhuematologist, consultant heart specialist and the cardiothoratic surgeon who wants me to have a valve replacement and hes a professor in his field i dont think theres anything else to give them thank you for your advice very grateful kindest regards kayx
  • pollmadoll64
    pollmadoll64 kay13565

    Posted

    I totally can relate to what you are saying. I have had Fibromyalgia for 8 years and frozen shoulder for four years . Due to my shoulder I was on permitted work and not allowed to lift anything heavy. Back in Feb I was advised to have surgery as I had a full tendon tear.I went for an Esa assessment and was asked the most ridiculous and irrelevant questions. Two days after surgery month later I was told I had failed my assessment and all benefits would stop due to my having had day surgery . I was told I needed to request a Mandatory Reconsideration which I did .I later on discovered I should have started a new claim.for a change of circumstance. Meanwhile they utterly ignored what my GP and surgeon had said I was given sick notes for 6 weeks.It was only when I involved my MP that I got reinstated and had a letter of apology from the DWP. I thought the nightmare was over until A brown envelope arrives saying I had to go an hour and a half away for another assessment. Yet again my GP said they would have to postpone or come to my house as any journeys are too painful. Luckily I had a reprieve the day before.Tomorrow I was supposed to be going for a PIPS assessment who do not have fax so with the Christmas post the letter would be delayed from the GP. I pointed this out to them so they cancelled four days before thank God. Surely with all the paperwork we submit clearly stating we are not fit to work we still have to go through these brutal and highly unfair assessments.
    • les59996
      les59996 pollmadoll64

      Posted

      What you are missing is that both PIP and ESA are descriptor assessments - tick boxes that you either fit in or don't. For ESA you could well have a serious heart condition and blocked arteries in both legs - and are found fit for work. Yet if you can't for whatever reason get something out of the top pocket of a jacket using either hand - you would be placed straight into the ESA Support Group with no questions asked.ESA is not a test to check up on a diagnosis or even to test if you are fit for work, it is a test to see if you tick the right boxes.Likewise with PIP the same applies - it is another tick box exercise. You either fit them or you don't - doesn't matter what your GP or consulatnt says. 
    • kay13565
      kay13565 pollmadoll64

      Posted

      I know its absolutley ridiculous, they have no consideration for people what so ever but despite all the evidence they have obtained from my various consultants, heart surgeon and the rest of them some woman with no medical background what so ever who works for the DWP  in an office has decided that i can do everything for myself so basically she knows more than the doctors surgeons etc so i have invited her to come to my house and show me how i can do these different things shes decided i can do, makes me laugh they havent got a clue, best part was she said you have no problem budgeting, i have decided you can attend to your budgeting needs, so in my reply i said yes i agree but youve missed the point i havent got a problem with my mental capabilities theres nothing wrong with my brain do they think because you apply for these benefits and your body is somewhat not functioning automatically you become mentally challenged. goodness me i dont understand their mentality good luck to you and i hope you are awarded all you deserve take care x
    • pollmadoll64
      pollmadoll64 linda83143l

      Posted

      Thanks for your kind message luckily my GP contacted them amd insisted on a home visit. They agreed at the last minute
  • david21258
    david21258 kay13565

    Posted

    hi, firstly ring DWP and get your assessment result. secondly PIP is a lot different to  ESA, esa is baised on wheather your ft to work. PIP is based on hw your illness effects you daily, if you need any cost becuse of your illness, do you pay for a cleaner, do you  pay for a carer who helps you get dressed do you remember how to do things. can you walk safley without pain can you carry tasks out safly, unfortunatly, it doesn't matter how many conditions you have, its all goes on how you cope daily and how much cost in incured by you. the asseser see you on the day and make a decision about how you sit, and what you tell them. now, you can appeal, get a dr letter about you nearly passing out, include any aids you do and any help you might get for instance if a friend is needed to suport you to carry out a task at home as due to having blackouts you need them to support you and be able to get help for you. 
    • les59996
      les59996 david21258

      Posted

      Basically correct. If you had an ingrowing toenail likely to last at least 6 months that was so painful and was not prescribed with adequate pain relief, that you could not walk - then you would get Enhanced Mobility.If you had serious vascular problems (blood clots in the areteries) in both legs which is extremely painful and was prescribed adequate pain relief medication then it is unlikely you would get any award. 
    • kay13565
      kay13565 david21258

      Posted

      thank you David very much for your advice appreciated greatly kindest regards kay
  • hypercat
    hypercat kay13565

    Posted

    I am so sorry you have been treated like that,  it is a disgrace.  I will only say 3 words - appeal appeal appeal.  Many decisions get overturned.  x
    • les59996
      les59996 hypercat

      Posted

      Very good advice. However there are many claimants that could not face going to a tribunal. Many would find it diificult to put over their argument.

      I have only been to one tribunal. It took all morning (listed for a half day hearing) and four previous adjournments. I had to research many areas of the law and examine much case law over the previous 12 months before I felt able to argue the legal aspects of whether I owed some Council Tax or not - £342!

      I lost on one part which I knew I would and was told that there was a debt to the Council.

      But I won the argument that the Council could not collect it!

    • kay13565
      kay13565 hypercat

      Posted

      awww thank you so much how very kind of you i will appeal for what good it will do me i dont know but thank you so much take care x
    • kay13565
      kay13565 les59996

      Posted

      well done and good for you it was worth all your research good for you

      you should feel very proud of yourself, these authorities think they can walk all over us people im so glad you showed them,

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