Reporting an assessor

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Recently had a home visit for a pip assessment . I requested a copy of my assessment report which ccontained lots of lies , I'm not going to go into detail about all of them but will just mention one as an example . I showed the assessor a letter from my consultant stating that I had anxiety and I showed her my tablets that I was prescribed for my anxiety it clearly showed that these tablets were on prescription from my gp .

On the assessment report it said that I was not prescribed any medication for my anxiety which is obviously a lie . I'm preparing documents for my mandatory reconsideration , my gp has written a letter saying I am prescribed medication for my anxiety. 

Can I report the assessor for blatant lies ? 

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    Hi do you mind me asking which meds were prescribed by your GP for anxiety, is it possible there actually a medication for depression and its been declassified for anxiety by the assessor, I would imagine you have already put your MR in, I think the problem is going to be your word against there's for you to actually accuse them of being untruthful, did you send the letter in from your GP about your anxiety when you first applied.

    Also as you will be told on here its not your disease's that will be taken into consideration when you apply, it will be how they effect you on a daily basis.

    So you could have dozens of complaints and still not be given enough points

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      I am prescribed amitriptyline , which is prescribed for a few different conditions one being anxiety . I have lots of letters from specialists that all state I suffer severe anxiety . Why would the assessor presume it's for another condition when all the doctors letters state I have anxiety . 

      This is not the only lie on the report , the report is full of lies . In the whole time of the assessment I got up once to go to the bathroom which is only a three metres away from where I was sat , yet the assessor said I got up several times and walked round my flat and came to the conclusion I could walk more than 50 metres . This is just a blatant lie . 

      The report is full of contradictions at the beginning of the report the assessor states that in the whole time she was there I got up once to use the bathroom , then in the part where they have to justify why they can't allow the points in this case the moving around  she states that I got up several times and walked round the flat . So one part she writes that I got up once then another part she writes that I got up a few times . It does not make sense .

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      Hi Paul sorry didn't mean to upset you was just asking, I'm one of the lucky ones I suppose, but then again I cannot walk so couldn't be accused of getting up and walking anywhere, Denise is the best one to advise on how to go forward but I do think that due to changes in criteria it is getting difficult to claim pip on anxiety alone.

      Do you have other contributing conditions as s well

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      You didn't upset me . I have other conditions as well as anxiety I was just pointing out the anxiety and what I am prescribed as an example of the many lies on my report . I'm not asking for advice on the criteria fo scoring points but there I can report the assessor for all the lies .

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      My advice still stands about reporting this assessor to the ones that did your assessment. I would also advice to point out ALL those lies and descrepancies in your report when writing the MR. Amitriptyline is also used in smaller doses for managing pain in fibromyalgia suffers, i know this because i used to take it. As you said it has many uses for different types of issues.

      I don't know what good it will be to complain about this person BUT with all the lies they tell in so many peoples reports. If everyone complains, they may listen  and one day start tell the truth. We can only hope.

      Any news yet on your ESA decision?

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      Yes I know amitriptyline is prescribed for other treatments but in my case it is obvious that I'm prescribed it for anxiety as I told the assessor this and I showed her the boxes that clearly show they were prescribed by my gp . All my doctors and consultants letters state I have severe anxiety so for her to presume the medication is for something else is wrong . The whole assessment report is full of contradictions that it makes anything she has written not to be truthful.

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      I have even got letters from my consultant who has referred me for hypnotherapy and CBT cognitive behaviour therapy for my anxiety I showed the assessor these letters I am on the waiting list to be seen it's obvious I am being treated for anxiety but the assessor wrote down I'm not on any medication for it . 

      My anxiety causes an issue that falls into one of the points descriptors , the assessor had to justify why I should not have received points for it so that's why she has stated that I'm not receiving medication for anxiety .

      It's all b******t lies so as not to award p oints 

      Moderator comment: I have edited this post due to the swearing. These are open forums so as per the T&Cs please do not use offensive language in posts otherwise they may be deleted.

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      I know you say you have anxiety and all your evidence stated this but does it state anything else? Like the problems it causes you that relate to those descriptors? This is the sort of evidence they will be looking for. 
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      Hello Paul, The assessor did exactly the same at my son's face to face.  She said that he was not taking prescribed medication for his condition & in the very next paragraph she said that his condition was controlled by prescribed medication.  Blatant is not a strong enough word for her lies.

      His appeal has gone to the tribunal so time will tell.

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      Paul, I had a similar problem. You need to break it down so that you can number the lies one by one and then underneath  each you have to say why you believe it to be a deliberate lie.

      I requested a MR and did this and was awarded in my favour.

      Best of luck with it.

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    I don't see why you should not be able to report the assessor for blatant lies when you have the proof of the lies.  When my son had his face to face for his medical & he got the assessor's report the lies were beyond belief.  He reported the lies when he applied for a mandatory reconsideration but the results stayed the same.  He has taken the case to a tribunal & has now  got a date which is just over a year from the initial face to face. 

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    Hi Paul,

    Yes you can report the assessor by making a complaint to which ever company did the assessment. I'm not sure how good this will do but you can try.

    PIP is more about how your conditions affect you daily and not about a diagnosis. The evidence you need to concentrate on his proving that those descriptors apply to you. Please also remember that most MR decisions remain the same (80% infact) and 65% of those who appear at their Tribunal have a decision in their favour. However, it's much less for those that ask for a paper based decision. Good luck.

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    Hi Paul have sent you a link to a web page regarding misrepresention by assessors.
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      If your ESA decision goes in your favour and you're put into the Support Group you can use this as evidence for your PIP. I don't know if you've had your assessment yet or not as i can't remember. If you have then it maybe worth ringing DWP to see if a decision's been made on this. If a decision hasn't been made by the time you send off your MR letter request and your MR decision remains the same, you can use the evidence at a Tribunal.

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      My anxiety affects some of the points descriptors which i should have received this why the assessor had lied saying I don't take medication for my anxiety as she has to justify why I have not received the points claiming I don't have anxiety . 

      It's obvious the prescription medication is for my anxiety all my doctors letter state I have anxiety I have even been referred to hypnotherapy hospital and CBT cognitive behaviourable therapy for my anxiety I am on a waiting list . The assessor knows all this as I showed her my hospital letters showing referalls and that I'm on waiting list .

      The lies on the report are a joke 

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      Yes i understand that. What i'm saying is do you have other proof that proves those descriptors apply to you. I know what anxiety is because my daughter has social anxiety disorder (amongst other things) and i've just started a PIP claim off for her. The evidence i have for her clearly states that she can not go out alone and needs social support to engage with others, which is one of the descriptors. Very often future appointment dates/times aren't accepted as evidence. Infact when i had my PIP review last year there was a list of evidence they wanted to see and a list of what they didn't want to see and future appointments was on the don't want to see list. Anxiety affects people in different ways and you have to show and prove how it affects you. Letters stating you have anxiety won't be enough because PIP isn't awarded based on a diagnosis.

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      I have copies of surgeries that I have had scans etc. And doctors letters stating my disabilities and hie it affects my daily life . I have doctors letters of me booked in for further surgery .
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      That's good that you have that for your other disabilities. It's very difficult with anxiety and for conditions that aren't visible. With your medication do you need supervision, prompting or assistance to be able to manage medication, if so then this would score you 1 point. Evidence would be needed, such as a letter from someone that does this for you. The rest of the points in section 3 is for managing therapy which you said you don't yet have CBT or hypnotherapy.

      Getting help with the MR letter maybe the way forward, CAB are very good with this although they're often very busy but i've always managed to get an appointment for filling out those dreaded forms. Also don't forget that 1 month deadline allowing also for time for it to arrive at DWP.

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      Paul do you mind me asking what other conditions you have, it does make it easier to give advise if you have all the facts in front of you
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      Yes I have spoken to the DWP who have told me I have one month from the date of the decision letter to register a MD which can be done over the phone and it will be registered immediately then I have another month from date I registered the MD to send in my MD letter and any further evidence I may have . 
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      I had the best evidence I too suffer from anxiety and panic attacks especially when I'm in tall buildings and amongst crowded places. 

      Within 15 minutes of my medical I had a full blown panic attack water spilt everywhere because I was shaking uncontrollably my mouth was so dry I couldn't speak it scared the medical assessor he spent another 15 minutes trying  to calm me down and didn't even bother to carry on with the medical. I lost my way how to get out of the building he had  to accompagny out. The  letter came within days I passed my medical.

       I guess sometimes they have to see physical evidence friends and family was telling me don't go alone for the medical but I had no choice I'm on my own everyone else lives far away from me and couldn't take time off to go with me.

       

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      I agree with you Denise sometimes I can have chats with people when outdoor they think I'm ok but other times the anxiety and panic attacks get the better of me as long as I can run back home I'm ok.

       I read from your post your daughter also suffer from anxiety, I feel sorry for you both I know how it can take over you.

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      Thank you gisela,

      Yes she does have anxiety so never ever goes out alone. She also has learning disabilities which makes it even harder, if she didn't have the anxiety she still couldn't go out alone because she wouldn't know which direction to go in. She doesn't understand the concept of time or money. I'm still waiting on those PIP forms for her but i have fantastic evidence that proves that numerous of those descriptors apply to her.

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