REZUM--HAVE YOU HAD THIS DONE???????
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I had a nice conversation today with the President of the "Urology Times". He was telling me that there is a "New Procedure" that has been approved called the "REZUM SYSTEM". The company that makes the system is called "NXThera, Inc". You can google them up and lots of stuff comes up. I called them for a referral and they gave me a Doctor in Minnepolis that has done it over 50 times now. I called his nurse and she said he would call me back and answer my questions on monday. As you guys probably know Doctors are not very good at returning calls but we'll see what happens. Iam not very good at explaining how the procedure works but basically they take the device and put it up the uretha and vaporize the prostate cells which kills them. It works with high pressure "steam" that at a certain degree will kill the prostate tissue. My question for you guys is there anybody out there that has had it done to them and how are you getting along and are there "side effects", etc etc?????
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avenses ChuckP
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Thank you very much for your valuable advices, I been to the hospital but the doctor don't have any idea about this new treatment and booked an appointment with the urologist after tomorrow, I will let you know what will the doctor say.
Thank you
stephen38770 ChuckP
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It has been over a year now that I have had the REZUM procedure done. I can say that now I do make it through the night with usually only one need to get up and urinate. That depends on how much and how late I drank the night before. As far as the procedure, not sure that I would do it again with out being anesthetized a little more. Serious pain. Anyway I have two side affects that I want to address. To this day I don't ejaculate. I tend to dribble urine more than I would like. And when I urinate it is difficult to control the stream. There is urine all over the place like you have your finger over the end of a hose. Better off sitting down to go rather than having to clean up the mess. I guess that's three. Anyway, I ask the urologist about the inability to ejaculate and he told me that he has never heard of that. The other urologist told me that the ejaculate goes into the bladder. From reading this forum it seems that there are many others that don't ejaculate any longer after this procedure. I guess that I am just curious at this point. Not going through that again.
john98818 ChuckP
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do Don't get rezum ! I'm in the hospital right now recovering after emergency surgery for acute urinary retention. I had resume 6 months ago and it almost ended my life.
gary37907 john98818
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John sorry to hear about your condition. I hope at some point you give some details. I am going to be evaluated for the Med Lift ( Urolift for large medial lobe ) and my plan B if I did not qualify for med lift REZUM. Hope things get better for you.
davidaami john98818
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John let us know what happened and how it happened.
rising28843 john98818
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steven05114 rising28843
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rising28843 steven05114
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rising28843 john98818
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To john98818
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steven05114 rising28843
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TKM rising28843
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Rising,
There are some posts that run off the right side of the page, like the post by stephen38770, that may be put in from a browser that does not insert line returns. You can copy the post by dragging your mouse over it while holding control C, be sure to go at least one line down. Then paste it into a word processor like Notepad or Word. On my computer I see the whole post, when I do it.
Here is stephen38770's post:
"It has been over a year now that I have had the REZUM procedure done. I can say that now I do make it through the night with usually only one need to get up and urinate. That depends on how much and how late I drank the night before. As far as the procedure, not sure that I would do it again with out being anesthetized a little more. Serious pain. Anyway I have two side affects that I want to address. To this day I don't ejaculate. I tend to dribble urine more than I would like. And when I urinate it is difficult to control the stream. There is urine all over the place like you have your finger over the end of a hose. Better off sitting down to go rather than having to clean up the mess. I guess that's three. Anyway, I ask the urologist about the inability to ejaculate and he told me that he has never heard of that. The other urologist told me that the ejaculate goes into the bladder. From reading this forum it seems that there are many others that don't ejaculate any longer after this procedure. I guess that I am just curious at this point. Not going through that again. "
Regards,
Thomas
kenneth1955 TKM
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Hey Tom
Hope all is going well for you.
To Stephen38770. Have you been check for a stricture. When my stricture was closing I would spray to when I went to the bathroom..I had to seat when I peed or it went all over.
Good luck Ken
james50975 gary37907
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My Urologist who did a very succesful REZUM on me doesnt do Urolift anymore he says it is not as good
kenneth1955 james50975
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Good Morning James
Your Urologist and you have your own opinion. My Urologist and I have another. We are all different and not all procedures fit everyone.
My Urologist and his partner would not even let the company come and talk with them about the Rezum procedure. They both feel that it can cause to much damage to the prostate.
We are the ones that have to pick the one that we feel that will work for us. It is our choice. You have good and bad in all procedure.
For the last 3 years I have been keeping track of the outcome of the men that have had Rezum done.
68 Done......36 Worked......32 Did not......35 Ended up with Retro.......
Also 7 men had so much damage that they ended up having a Turp procedure to fix the problem. A procedure that they were trying to avoid.
All the best...Ken
raygar13 kenneth1955
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The procedure is a little over 3 years since its approval. my guess is there were a lot of inexperienced urologists performing the procedure. If the injections are given in a uniform pattern beginning at the bladder neck and injecting left and right going away from the bladder, the procedure should free up most men. Again I refer to a Dr. Levin who did clinical trials for rezum and has to be one of the most experienced in this procedure. He now does 95 percent of his patients with bph with rezum. Im sure his numbers are much better for improvement in men. Ken, we only get respondents not the total group. I had a converation with my urologist and asked her directly if during the procedure she could see the duct that supplies the fluid for ejaculation, and she said it was clear and she stayed clear of that area. to get retro from rezum (levin is less than 5 percent) the uro has to inject this area which would kill the cells and cause retro. Levin did a patient with urinary retention and was unsuccessful, performed a 2nd rezum procedure and it freed up the patient to urninate on his own. Opting for TURP is a patients choice and a procedure that most urologists are familiar with. I would opt for a 2nd rezum procedure over turp. I encourage all patients considering rezum to ask questions about experience *rezum) and results of their urologist. Rezum is clearly the future for BPH symptom relief and cancer down the road. With so many men suffering from BPH we are the pioneers of a procedure that is sound and makes sense.
raygar13 kenneth1955
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Since the procedure is about 3 1/2 years old there are a lot of inexperienced urologists who realized TURP as the gold medal standard for BPH. Turp is going to give patients retro period. The urologist can see the duct that supplies ejaculate and they need to not inject it, retro if they do. since the steam stays in the area or boundaries it is injected in, as long as they dont inject the duct, men should have not change in functioning normally. Richard Levin (clinical trials for Rezum) now treats 95 percent of BPH patiens with Rezum. his numbers are much better. Inexperience has to be the main reason for Rezum not to work, and the higher number of patients in this forum with retro. Levin treated one patient with urinary retention (full), unsuccessful on the first try, but free the man up on a 2nd rezum procedure. If the urologist quickly moves a patient to turp following rezum, its because he is more familiar with the procedure. Why not a second rezum which is easier on the prostate. Rezum is the cutting edge of technology and is one ot the best ways to relieve BPH symptoms and cancer down the road. Ken thanks for keeping track, we only get respondents and not a good sample of all the men having rezum and their results. This forum made me a little reluctant before my procedure but there is so much better information and results out on the web. Check for experience of urologist on rezum and dont be afraid to get a referall to a more experience one. good luck everyone
kenneth1955 raygar13
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Good morning Ray
That is very true. The better the doctor the better the out come. You need a doctor that knows what they are doing and cares about your concerns A doctor main thing is to get you to pee better. Not your sex life.
I remember reading about that guy that had the second one done and it did help. I also saw a video where the doctor said the same thing.
I hate saying this about some Urologist they get a additude when you question what they are telling you. They feel they know best. I also tell men to go for something less evasive first before you have anything cut out.
When I had my Urolift done 4.5 years ago. It was only out for 6 month's I was my doctor 20 th patients. I had it done because I was not going to deal with the side effect of Flomax. I did not want to have any problem in the sex department and lost of ejaculation.
It has worked for me many years because I trusted my doctor knowing what he was doing. But I also talk to some of the patients that he did before me. They all had good results.
Rezum still has some ways to go and the doctors have to understand to stay away from the ejaculatory duct no matter how many injection. You have to stay away from them to keep it. It is up to the doctor. There have been men who only had 5 injecting and ended up with retro and men that had 14 to 15 injection and did not end up with retro.
You have many men that have median lobe issue.
Instead of having the prostate cut out these 2 procedure can fix it. The Urolift company came up with the Midleft. It has only been out 1.5 years. With this they can pull the median lope out of the way and clip it to one side to open you up. With the Rezum they can put 2 injection in the median lobe to make it smaller.
You just have to do the research and take control of your body
I think that is enough for now......All the best to all the men that have to deal with BPH
Ken
kenneth1955 raygar13
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Ray I forgot to say that my Urologist and his partner do not do many Turp. I think he told me over the last 3 years they have only done 2 because there was nothing else to try. They feel it is a last resort procedure.
Take care.......Ken
tom86211 kenneth1955
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Ken,
Thank you for doing the work of keeping track of the Rezum results. Very informative. Wish we had similar stats from the other procedures for comparison.
Tom
kenneth1955 tom86211
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Tom
Thank you. We have to have some type of information to make the right choice. The doctors can only tell you so much in 10 minutes that they give you when you go and see them.
I will keep doing the Rezum results. But will look into others
Right now I have been looking into Holep. A lot of the reports that I have been reading is calling it the New Gold Standard because there is a decline of Turp surgery
We will see. All the best....Ken