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robbiekw
robbiekw

Hello fellow prostate problem sufferers. Has anyone had successful results with the Rezum precedure. It sounds good...like they all do, but what are the results with any of you? Less frequent urination? Increased flow, Sexual side effects ?

I am 72, in "reasonably" good condition....but I have to pee every 2 hours, night and day, so I NEVER get a decent nights sleep and it's ruining my life. I've tried various drugs and natural remedies with 0 success.

Any and all suggestions and comments are much appreciated

Robbie

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  • cartoonman
    cartoonman robbiekw

    Posted

    Hi Robbie,

    Do you CIC (cath)?  It was a game changer for me four years ago.  These days, I cath before bedtime, and am up once to cath again, in the "wee" hours.  Occasionally I sleep straight through the night!  I highly recommend it, regardless of what option you eventually choose for surgery or what-have-you!  Threads on this site for JimJames' Dive-Bomb technique for easy cathing...

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw cartoonman

      Posted

      thank you so much for your reply. I've never thought about self-cathing... I didn't know it was easy to do. During the night when you have to pee, do you wake up or does the "urge" affect your sleep?

    • cartoonman
      cartoonman robbiekw

      Posted

      The "urge" awakens me.  Usually at 250cc to 300cc.  If I'm exhausted n in deep sleep, it can be more.  When I first got into this mess, my bladder was drained of 2.5 liters!  Residual holding was 1 liter!  Doc said nothing to do about it, that you couldn't shrink the stretched-out bladder.  But that's when I started JimJames' "World-Famous Dive Bombing Technique," for quick n easy relief.  Cathing 5 X a day, as the urge slowly came back.  I DON'T get the old "Gotta PEE!" signal anymore, it's a different, more subtle notification (I believe in listening closely to by body and its signals.).

      Cathing is easy to do, yes, esp with practice.  I've been practicing  now for close to 4 years, well over 6,000 times!  The only point where it's essential to be WIDE AWAKE, is to be sure you've prepped properly(for me, it's wiping the tip with alcohol on piece of TP) and for insertion of the catheter.  The rest of the time, you can drift...  

  • Jonboy999
    Jonboy999 robbiekw

    Posted

    Hi Robbie, try the UROLIFT, had it done 3 weeks ago, up 6 times a night, 100 / per cent better, only getting up once in the night, I am 69, I feel like a young students again, sex drive through the roof.
    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Jonboy999

      Posted

      hi Jon, that's great news... my life now is miserable.  My hesitation is the dreaded ED with all these procedures.. I wouldn't mind retro-ejac.... but the other problem is killer. Your procedure is recent so I hope you recover all functions to your satisfaction !!!

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 robbiekw

      Posted

      Good afternoon one and all.  I have been reading and looking at many papers and article on Rezum.But Rezum is a pretty good procedure with you are welling to take the chance with the side effects.  I have just figured out with the other surgery's why men end up with retro.  Now if anyone has ever watch a video of TURP or a HOLEP procedure.  The first thing they do is either go with the knife right down the middle or make the line on each side and then cut out the whole middle.  If that was the only thing they did you would end up with retro ejaculation.  Because they just got rid of the Seminal Calliculus which hold the ejaculatory ducts.  If they would leave that a lone you would have a better chance but there are not  a lot of doctor that are concerned with that part of your life.  Now thinking about the Rezum procedure.   They do not touch the center of the Prostatic Utricle .  They leave that alone.  Now they do put the stem in the prostate anywhere from 5 to 10 injection.  Doing that they are going to damage the seminal canal.  It will be blocked with scare tissue.  Now you still will have a ejaculation but the only thing that will be coming out will be the fluid from your prostate.  And has it get smaller there will be less and less.  I don't know if any of you guy's remember reading this One of the men had it done and he tried it out after 2 weeks.  He did have a ejaculation.  But after a month it stopped.  As the prostate get's smaller there will be less fluid make by your prostate where it may stop all together.  You may still have some in the urethra but the muscle is not strong to push it out.  This is just by take on it.  I still believe that a man has the right to know how many injection the doctor is going to do.  So they can talk about it.  Not just go in and do has many as he feel is right.  I like knowing what is going on at all times.  I don't like being surprised.  Take care all  Ken          

  • cartoonman
    cartoonman robbiekw

    Posted

    We've had mixed results on this forum with Urolift, and I hope yours goes well for you, Robbie!  I had mine done, with small (38gm) prostate, in Dec of 2015.  My doctor did clinical trials for the FDA approval, so it was worth flying 200 miles to Salt Lake to have the procedure done.  It was great, like yours, wonderful.  On his ok, I quit the testosterone blockers, which I hated, but which intuition said was a mistake.  Three or four months late, the free-flow ended, and I've been cathing again ever since, awaiting the next great solution!   Again, I wish you well and hope yours is a long-term positive outcome!  :-)

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw cartoonman

      Posted

      hello, I haven't had any procedure "yet", but I know I have to do something ...soon !  I sure do hope you find a better solution

  • henry52457
    henry52457 robbiekw

    Posted

    Robbiekw,

    I would suggest checking out Aquablation. Aquablation uses water pressure to ablate the prostate tissue which is not nearly as damaging to the surrounding tissue as steam.  Their clinical trial results were much better than Rezum, as reported at the AUA conference in May.  Aquablation has a significantly better side effect profile when it comes to ED.  You might google this study: "Aquablation: a novel and minimally invasive surgery for benign prostate enlargement"

    Best,

    Henry

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw henry52457

      Posted

      Hi Henry and thank you for your response. I've heard about Aquablation ..but don't know the long-term effects of it ..I'll definitely look into more about it. Thank yooooou again

      Robbie

  • Ronk25
    Ronk25 robbiekw

    Posted

    Robbie, like you - I can't wait to read the responses. I had rezum scheduled for July 17th., but cancelled when I read all the previous horror stories - not ready to make the leap just yet. I'm 74 and I get up once a night - sometimes twice if I drink beer or wine. I take 2 Tamsulosin (AM/PM) per day and recently stopped the Avodart (PM) because I was told it has little to no effect after taking it for 2 years. After having to go every 2 hours - I've been fortunate to have experienced improvement with both frequency and urgency. But, I am locked into the Tamsulosin - if I try to cut down the symptoms return immediately. I also take chewable natural supplement called uricalm cranberry (2 x day/ AM - PM) which seems to have helped calm/relax my over active (ultra sensitive) bladder & that has also helped reduce both my frequency & urgency. I noticed an improvement about 2 weeks after I started taking the uricalm. Am I making the right decision? Who knows. It's rolling the dice. Everyone has a different story/experience. All we can do is put all the data together - try to make an informed decision and hope for the best.  But, I am fond of trying (testing) different things and seeing what works. Good Luck to you.....              

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Ronk25

      Posted

      Hi Ron, If you only get up once a night ...jeeez, you are one lucky guy !! smile  I get up at least 4 times a night ...it sucks.  I never tried Tamsulosin ...but I'll try anything at this point.  and the cranberry thing sounds worth a try too. thanks so much for your reply.  Have you heard of Rapiflow, I have no idea of it's results.

      Robbie

    • Ronk25
      Ronk25 robbiekw

      Posted

      Robbie, I have never heard of rapiflow - no idea what it is. 
    • lee56659
      lee56659 robbiekw

      Posted

      Rapiflo is the brand name of another alpha-blocker. Cardura=doxazosin. Flomax=tamulosin, etc. I think there are 5 different alpha-blockers. They all do the same thing in theory but some may work better than others for some patients.

      You will get better information by looking for clinical trial results. Everything here is anecdotal and you can't project someone else's experience (good or bad) on to yourself. What does your urologist suggest?

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Ronk25

      Posted

      Hi Ron, the uricalm sounds worth trying... like everything else we try ..it just might help.  do you buy it online or at a health food store ?
    • Ronk25
      Ronk25 robbiekw

      Posted

      Robbie, I buy it either on line or CVS - whoever has the best price at the time. 
    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Ronk25

      Posted

      Thank you for the info Ron, much appreciated
    • Jonboy999
      Jonboy999 robbiekw

      Posted

      Hi Rob, UROLIFT into the 5th week, all's well, no tamasoolin, up to pee 1 once a night, no urgency to pee, I can't speak highly of the UROLIFT.

    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Jonboy999

      Posted

      Hello Jon,

      I hope your success continues ... where are you located?  The procedure I'm looking at now is the REZUM Procedure ...it seems to be less invasive

       

    • Jonboy999
      Jonboy999 robbiekw

      Posted

      I am in Kent England.

      This was no evasive, which was brilliant .

    • Jonboy999
      Jonboy999

      Posted

      No ed, fully functional, sex life, one Viagra to kick start.
    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Jonboy999

      Posted

      Lucky guy you are Jon smile ... so you had the Urolift ?   what was the cost ?
    • robbiekw
      robbiekw Ronk25

      Posted

      Hi RonK I'm still looking into the REZUM procedure ... It sounds ok to me.... but you never know. I think a lot depends on the Dr. !!!!!   how much experience and how precise he is !!

    • Jonboy999
      Jonboy999 robbiekw

      Posted

      Hi Rob, nothing mate, on the NHS

      Would have cost £10, 000.

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