Sexually Aquired Reactive Arthritis
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Hi,
I am wondering what the symptoms of sexually acquired RA might be and can you get it from Oral sex. I thnk I have them but my doctors insist not. I first had joint pains (elbows, ankle) in Sept 06, then have had at various times sticky eye, mouth inflamation, slit tongue, prostate/testicle/penis burning problems, itchy/flaky skin, chapped skin on knuckles - currently have bad ache in lower back, joints ache in big toe, knees, ankles and fingers/wrist and kneck beginning to go. Still have sore/tender genitals, mouth inflamation and really tired.
Have had so many STD tests, Gon and Cham neg (inc blood antibody test for Cham), HLA 27, stools, rheumatoid factor, prostate infection etc etc and all neg. At leat 5 different types of anti-biotics (and just started another 6 six week course) none seem to really be doing anything.
Any ideas/help?
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max04567 Guest
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below is the full PDF documentation of the trial done for a CURE in Re-A.
It also explains how they found bacteria on people that had the desease for over 10 years.
http://health.usf.edu/nocms/publicaffairs/now/pdfs/Carter_Arthritis&Rheumatism_May2009.pdf
Also may i ask you all, what are your sympthoms in details and how long have you had them for?
Max
samjo111 max04567
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Anon max04567
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address whether combination antibiotic treatment would
be effective in patients with undifferentiated SpA who
are negative for Chlamydia on PCR testing.
This is me I think. I test negative to chlamydia now. For some reason my reactive arthritis persiteted after taking azithromycin . I actually took it again thinking I had a STD. they test my blood after azithromycin and chlamydia didnt show up again. Urine and everything went back to normal but I still got reactive arthritis.
Vincentworld Anon
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With that said I've been on multiple antibiotics without much success.
But still, you can't keep trying Abx until you know what it is.
samjo111 Anon
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It may be possible that u r clear of Chlamydia for now...by urine test....
But if u ever had it ...it may persist in the joints and cause the arthritis....and will not be diagnosed by urine tests...best way it pcr of synovial fluid/tissue...it will confirm whether the bacteria is present in joints
samjo111
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Vincentworld samjo111
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adam59082 max04567
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max04567 Guest
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will you tell me what are your sympthoms
and since how long you had them?
roy40659 Guest
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jack_92367 Guest
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I am really firghtened but the war still is on.Keep fighting guys and hope to hear good news from you all.
Anon jack_92367
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did you have unprotected sexual contact prior ReA and notice std symptoms within 2 weeks after?
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jack_92367 Anon
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I did not have a special diet and I dont like junk food to mention. Only I ate lots of nuts and chew some raw ginger. I really do not know still the reason of the remission . I thought it was completely gone for gods sake but unfortunately not. However, even in the beginning my symptoms were mild only heel spurs in two feet,pain in the right knee and uti symptoms like frequency and burning. Therefore, it took 1 year to a proper diagnose of my condition although they suspect rheumotoid arthritis.
Again yes, the initial setting and my symptoms began after 1 month of an unprotected vaginal sexual contact. First my urologist diagnosed me with epididimis ( sorry for the spellings) and then with prostatitis. When I told him I have pain in my feet and knee , he suggested to see a rheum doctor. The rheum suspected from some kind of arthritis but the strange thing according to him I did not have any sweeling and conjuctivitis for to diagnose me with reactive arthritis. Then another rheum guy diagnosed me with reacive arthritis.They look for everything, urine cultures, sperm cultures, chlamydia pcr test from urine, mycoplasma and ueroplasma, brucella and nothing came out positive except HLAB27 and high CRP.
Now I am in a middle of a flame. I have got a severe pain in my heels because of the heel spurs I guess, mild knee pain and mild uti symptoms. In addtion this flame starts like I was again infected with an uti like pain in testicles, burning and frequency in urination.
My rheum thinks my situation as easy to be cured but I dont think it is so easy after 18 months. There is still a chance but is getting lower day by day. Furthermore we still dont know the infecting agent. I also give up taking sulfa because I got a flu.
I am frightened of being disabled and losing my job in an early age of 29. I hope it will be completely gone for everbody suffering from this terrible disease. Sometimes we make mistakes but there is no turning point in this.Thinks getting harder I can not concentrate easily and it is very hard to do simple daily chores though I can still drive a car. I can not stand still so long my feet aches. How you feel now ?
Vincentworld jack_92367
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Consider yourself lucky went into remission. This did not happen to me. I got massage then stupid me got a HJ - yup, you read that, just a HJ with oil. Nothing else.
Next day started getting UTI symptoms, - took doxy and was tested for g&C negative urine PCR test.
4 weeks later got ReA symptoms, this is goign on and its 2 years it has morph into Spondalytitis. I get severe spine pain.
Do you have any spine pain? SI joint Pain?
Vincentworld jack_92367
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jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Doc wants me to use sulfasalazine at least for 3 months. Then he ll decide to continue or he ll come up with an alternative.
His response and attitude was strange. He just advised me to swim and take the pills. Also he acted like it's child play and told to me nothing to be afraid of. I am not that optimistic though. Mine is also getting chronic I feel.
How you feel now? I know your story. I acted like nothing bad will ever happen to me and there are the results. Will you consider taking TNF? I read about its side effects. It is am important trade off to use it in my opinion. Keep giving info about your condition. Don't lose your hope I am trying.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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They all tell me we will never know the outcome of this disease or what the triggering agent was. Do I stilll have the triggering agent???No one knows.
Rehumy, says take TNF and live with it.
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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I really wonder if anyone get benefited from DMARDS or TNF blockers in the forum.Just inform us about TNF blocker if you are planning to use it. which one did your rheum doc suggest? I really wonder the outcomes .
Hope it will bring you a prolonged remission without any side effect. I think I cannot afford them now . I both afraid of the side effects and I am not able to get them bacause of health insurance problems.
We all have to learn with tihis and to manage it in some way.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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Humira is what my doc said. He said sulfa and methtraxre sp? Is only good for peripheral pain not for axil. Humira works for that.
Do you know if u still have the triggering agent?
What have u test for?
Have you taken any antibiotics?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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They look for everything, urine cultures, sperm cultures, chlamydia pcr test from urine, mycoplasma and ueroplasma, brucella
All the tests came out negative
I understand. did you take humira yet?
Also any of you guys feel dizy and have heart palpitations??? Is it bacause of the condition or the side effects of medicine? I feel very dizy nowadays .
Vincentworld jack_92367
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We have the same thing for sure. They did everything on me, immune test, urine culture, chlamydia pcr, semen culture, prostate anarobic aerobic , nothing.
I've taken Doxy, Azithro, Flagyl and Cipro and Mino (recently) Nothing.
2 years later I still have active ReA with burning after urination stinging feeling, spine pain, joint pain etc....
I was setup to take Humira but backed out...but this time I am going to take it. Nothing is helping with inflammation. I've taken prednisone it helps while I take it then it stop.
The heart palpitation you mention is because of ReA. I have those and I started seening a cardiologist for it. There is nothing you can due this disease causes inflmmation.
Did your doc ever suggest Humira?
Do you take painkillers?
How long have you had this condition?
Any stiffness in the back?
On paper I look perfect, not a single positive test. But, what you and I may have is call "Seronegative Spondalyarthrophy"
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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I only took a multivitamin a day and 2 tabs of diclofenac. I got a flu so had to give up sulfa.
What did your cardiologist say about your palpitations? I also consider to see one. Do you take a drug also for it?
I am feeling low and dizzy these days.
Inform us when you ll take the TNF.
jack_92367
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I went to university too when I was really really sick. I couldn’t stand sitting down in lectures. It was so bad having to sit quietly in pain trying to concentrate for 3 hours straight. I seriously don't know how I did it. I think making myself do it helped me to get better but sometimes I felt like I couldn’t sit any longer or I would explode.
mine never went completely. It was in the background for a while. it can fluctuate at any moment. My stiff neck can suddenly appear from a sudden movement or when I wake up but I always have sore muscles deep down even if my neck doesnt go stiff. It can last a year or a few months the stiff necks. Or whatever it wants. I believe it could be different for everyone just like our fingerprints are all a little different. We would all be going through similar feelings though. I believe that even people with other illnesses would also get similar feelings. My symptoms have been like chron’s disease or dizzy verdigo. I believe even mood swings. Do you guys get mood swings from ReA???I get really angry sometimes. Sometimes I wake up angry. Every few weeks or months. Some people have commented on my anger and that they feel a little scared. I had every reason to be upset or angry but I raged to the point it is unacceptable. I just don't know why I do it since I got sick. I have been trying to meditate. I dont really get depressed much. I just get really anxious and angry sometimes. DO you guys suffer from similar symptoms?
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Vincentworld jack_92367
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The cardiologist said there is nothing I can do other than run few test and see what happens. Doc said he can't fix an issue that is not showing on the test.
I'll take TNF in few weeks for sure this time around. Prednisone are oaky but I don't want to keep taking those.
Do you have any issues with peeing right now? Like stinigng feeling? PRostate issue?
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jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Yes Vincent I have still problem with peeing. Frequency and burning when I pee are the symptoms still I have. However when I compare them to the beginning they are rather mild now.
Emis_Moderator Vincentworld
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Regards,
Alan
max04567 Emis_Moderator
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but if we can't share information freely.. how are we suppose to help each other? To share information..?
Why there isn't any different moderation rules for people who suffer and want to help each other?
Emis_Moderator max04567
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https://patient.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/398316-adding-links-to-posts
The issue above was copying/pasting of the whole article - if it was a link to the article it would have been approved. For info it was this article.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/reactive-arthritis
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Vincentworld jack_92367
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Jack - Tell me about your urination issues. For example, me it does not hurt while urinating but it hurts afterwards - kind of like a burning stinging feeling (like the tip of the penis and whole urethra is on fire).
I want to know if this is infalmmatory or an actual infection. I doubt infection with all the antibiotics me and you have taken.
jack - Have you tried prednisone?
Jack - Do you have any issues with flutter sensation that come and go in your chest? Any stifness in upper back ? Chest Pain? Rib Cage Pain?
Do you have any burning rug type of arthritis joint pain in Elbow, Knee, Ankle?
And just to understand correctly you have taken Doxy & Aizthro and tested negative for everything. Your urine analysis has been negative, no WBC found? And you have not taken TNF?
I have an appt to take TNF in few weeks. I think I will give it a try as nothing else seems to work and I don't think I could take this disease longer.
Jack - You do know we are a rare case and in chronic stage correct? But lucky you that your ReA has not morph into AS (spine). My has and I get sever spine pain. It's sad. Any fatigue?
I don'tk now what your exposure was but my mearly a cheezy hand job at massage palor with lotion. Yes, laugh it out bro...That's not even consider sexual exposure but I don't know how I got infected...Dirty table, towel or what...
All my test have been negative in last two years. Nothing. Not a single one. Even the inflamattory markers are negative. Not a single piece.
My Main Symptoms:
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Penis pain after peeing, lower SI joint Pain, spine Pain, eye pain, fatigue, headaches, elbow, knee and ankle pain, and Heart Palpitation with flutter feeling...These pain come and go through out the day but its been like this for last two years.
Flagyl was the drug that used to help me but no longer does. I'm not sure if you have taken this drug or not.
My only option is to keep taking Prednisone or go on TNF. I don't think I will keep taking Prednisone.
Also in my case, Instead of improving I'm actually going the opposite. I'm getting worse day by day with new symptoms.
Vincentworld Anon
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I don't know about your shoulder i really don't think its ReA.
You should try taking TNF see if that helps with inflamaation.
Vincentworld Anon
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I think your symptoms sound alot like AS then ReA now??
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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No chest , rib, SI pain . I have only pain and stifness in my feet because of heel spurs. My knees are also painfull an only in the right side . Nowadays I got hearth palpitations and feeling dizzy like vertigo. I dont have a severe pain I guess so doc did not offer tnf and prednisone. I have a mild pain. Tnf I keep it as a last resort . I was using sulfa however gave it up because of a flu. Thinking of starting again.
I have high wbc sometimes and high crp. I even have hla b27 . Each of us having different symptoms like each of us are different.
It is imflammatory I think. after a period of no symptoms it started again.
I dont know mine is chronic or reoccurring type. I had a remission once.I am just confused.
Hope you wil get better after taking tnf. Take care. Keep us posted
Vincentworld jack_92367
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My never went away in 2 years matter of fact everday feels like day 1. It's so agreessive that My pain actually moved up to the spine and so joints.
My doc says I have reactive arthritis and anklyo spondylitis. I don't understand how when I'm hla b27 negative.
Hiv 1/2, chlamydia, gonnoreha, syphilis, hep b, c, crp, rpr, mycoplasma g, trich, cd4, nk cell, cd 26, cd 56, lyme, ebv, cmv hhv6, hhv8, hhv 9, rubella, igg , iga, igm, immunodeficiency panel, Ana panel, lupus, sed rate, wegenr granulemis, anaerobic, aerobic of prostate secretion, urine culture all negative and normal.
Know you see why my doctors are confused?
Everything is negative yet I have progressive arthritis and triad of reactive arthritis symptoms not going away.
Also have done mri of brain, eye check , emg, ekg, ecg...all normal.
I've taken doxy, flagyl, azithro, minocycline , cipro for 14 days each. No improvement.
What am I missing? Why am I so chronic?
The only doctor who thinKS this is possible is my rheumatologist.
All my other physician are kind of confuse or diss me with all negative test.
Now I'm not sure how many more antibiotics to take.
My doc cane up with cleaver idea. Why not take tnf and see if an infection wakes up and let id doc take care of it.
I have team of doc. I tell them to communicate with one another...Id doc and rehummy talk and they think tnf is best option and stopping all antibiotics.
This will tell us what is going on.
Could parasite do this? I just had hj with oIL at massage parlor.
Now what?
Jack my doc says sulfa and methotrexate no good for me because those drugs do not help axial pain only peripheral. Axil pain is spine rest is peripheral.
What are u thoughts? Today would be 2 years since all this started and have not went into remission at all.
Prednisone u help temp.
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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In remission, I was totally pain free. No urination problems , no knee and feet pain. I was healthy like before.
I ve got most of the tests that done to you . All negative. No triggering agent found.
As I told before I am a ta in a university. I like to read and search . As I seen in many studies tnf blockers can bring prolonged remission to rea patients like 3 years time. However all medicine come up with promises (treatment and well being) and side effects too. Still need to be careful. People are different and their reactions to certain meds are different too.
It is strange that you have a chronic disease. You also have negative hlab27.Your exposure is strange indeed. This is not a laughing matter. Mine was unprotected sex. Silly me.
There is not a single road I understand. There are branches. some have mild others have severe. Some morph into as others not. Some only have pain while others have the triad . Some have severe progressive arthritis because of hla while others have severe arthritis without having it. I don't know what will happen in the future and am very worried.
Just be patient bro. take tnf and let's wait for the results. When there is life there is hope
Try not to worry too much. There are people on earth still can not find a slice of bread to satisfy hunger. Dying of hunger.
When will you take tnf? What is the dosage? Only once or repeated or more infusions? I really wonder your reaction to it . Inform us .jack
Vincentworld jack_92367
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Why Me and why me chronic?
The tnf drug is call humor 40mg injectable pen.
I really don't have any option. Either I work on reducing inflammation or risk worth of organ damage.
As for tnf I would think everything has rectum including the antibiotics.
Flagyl was the only drug that helped "
On top of that we made sure if anything else
I'm really scared if this is parasite or some serious infection.
She has pregnant and everytin coo...
Jack, do you have any tingling in mid urethra or near top...?
I don't want to take tnf but I have no options.
I don't think there Is antibiotics that could help ...
What to do m? How do u manage this disease?
Lastly, do you feel this bug is in my prostate chasing issue?
Vincentworld jack_92367
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jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Sometimes I have tingling feeling in my testicles.
It can hide both in urethra or in the joints really I have no idea.
Mine is rather mild so things are not bad for now.
if I were you I couldn't manage it either.
You made your choice and it is the right one in your situation.
I advise you to give up smoking or alcohol.
I am dying for a beer
Exercise more but simple ones even if you are in pain.
I hope someone will find a cure for all of us. There are many studies drug trials in this field.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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Do you have any toothaches gum pain? All my tother hurts and I think it's inflammationmore
Jack, from your research do you know why my case is so freaking chronic?
You all lucky....I feel like I'll be dead in a year from this.
My rib cage, spine. Kidney, heart, tooth, urethra , chest , all hurt. This is a real systemic disease.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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If it was immune superser than why would it lose its impact now?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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This is the article. I really have no idea about your situation. I only have sympathy for you and sorry for your pain. Hope you find relief after tnf.
Even docs not know the cause and I am not a doc bro. Each of us special so our case also different and special.
I also advise to use antidepressants for pain, fatigue and depressed. Ask for it to your doc.
I wish someone would explain our case explicitly not in probabilities and answer our questions. Cure our diseases.
Don't hang out here too much too .try to Breath and find something to relax.
Do you have a job? Do you smoke or drink?
I even try to work in this condition.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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I work. I try not to think but the pain is too much.
I don't know. I hope humIra works, If this doesn't work then I'm screw.
I done so much research I know a lot bUT I'm not sure how and why no one can tell me if I still have an active infection.
Could I still have an actI've infection?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Take care.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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Then we could pass this on to spouse and gf?
Wait u had intercourse, I didn't?
Yeah lucky you....do you have toothaches?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Or may be there are biofilm in there.
Not exactly reactive-arthritis is not contagious. Only able to pass the agent if it is still there.
Were you being tested for candida?
Nope no toothache.
Feel terribly tired now.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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How do u check for biofilm?
million dollar quetsion is how do we know if the agent is still there? Do you not worry about that with chronic ReA?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Of course I am worried why wouldn't I .
Once we got this there is no proper solution. What we must do is living with it. Trying to cope with it . Let's live and see the outcomes.
Don't know the answers but have too many questions.
Do you have thickening in your palms and soles? Also small bumps? I noticed bumps and thickening.
Vincentworld jack_92367
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No tickles in Palm but I do have burning sensation on sole..I would feel like there is rash coming but there aren't any...
Are you on any antibiotics currently?
I'm taking minocycline not working. I've had total of 16 days 32 pills and still have symptoms.
I heard only 6 pills can kill ngu 98%, superior then doxy....
I might stop as arthritis pain continues..
Worst pain I have is stinging after urination, chest pain, spine pain and stiffness along with really bad pain in my tooth and gum...all my teeth hurt. Kind a like someone is pushing down on them hard.
Do you feel like something is about to come out of your pens like a left over urine or discharge but there's nothing when u squeeze the tip?
roy40659 jack_92367
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contagious when it is in its activite state this l discovered years ago with a girl friend who develope arthritis in here knee and also developed it
in her wrist she went to her doctor and of course the doctor couldn't understand what was going on after shared with her of my stituation it all fit together and l was very sorry on my part met her a few years ago in the shopping mall and thank goodness after first incounter with this arthritis it didn't return. when it is active there is a clear fluid from the penis may not be the case for everyone but one take care and as l
shared in the past in our communication you must keep an eyee on your prostate blood count as l fell l had to have my prostate removed because of having Reactive arthritis.all the best with ealing with tough medical problem R from canada
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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Only frequent urination and burning tip when I pee bothers me. No such symptoms you ask for.
jack_92367 roy40659
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Which drugs did you used and benefited from? Or still using?
Vincentworld jack_92367
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I get chest pain on diclofenac . I take Duexis as need it, but doesn't help. Do you get heel burning sensation type?
jack_92367 Vincentworld
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At least try to get prednisone so you can get out of the flare ups. Do you have uvitis or eye issue?
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They found sacroillitis but seemed to improve he reconed. Its because my lower back improved after the first 2 years I guess. I have alot of issues in my upper spine at the moment. It comes more at night or if I flare. I just always have pain in my neck and makes noises when I rub it. It doesnt crack but makes like crackling. Im getting random pain over my body. Like knee pain or wrist pain. It doesnt bother me all the time just when it gets bad or at night sometimes. After 10 years I guess you start to adapt and it becomes more normal everyday I guess or possibly it just goes into a mediocre state, It makes me feel sick sometimes like I have the flu. I dont really get chronic fatigue anymore which is a bonus. Its like this thing changes all the time like the weather. Its a bich
samjo111 jack_92367
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What triggered ReA second time to you?
How are the inflammation markers ? Esr n crp now?
Are they high?
What does ur current blood work say?
jack_92367 samjo111
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I do not think a trigger for the second time.
It is just a flame with frequency and burning in urination and pain in the back and hip issues.
peter54087 Vincentworld
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I've noticed that certain types of body wash gels and lotions, when brought into contact with my urethra, can trigger a minor flare-up.