SIMVASTATIN HELL ?
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I have been taking Simvastatin for over two years. During this time I have got progressively worse. Started with tingling and pins and needles in hands and fingers, sore sole of the feet and a little bit of joint stiffness, lumpy legs, severe lethargy, tireness and irritability.
NOW I have muscle wastage of the shoulder muscle, severe joint pain in spine, chest, hips, wrists and fingers. I have lost the grip and strength in my left hand, finding it difficult and clumsy to use. My sight is progressively getting worse, I feel as if I,m looking through a slight fog. My memory loss was becoming a real problem. Diarrohea, chronic muscle spasms - I was beginning to think I was going to die.
I have only just been made aware that the cause could be Simvastin - stopped taking them 5 days ago and I am feeling a little better having good days and bad days.
My concern is that if these problems have been caused by Simvastatin - it looks like they could be irreversable!
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lee12629 Guest
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helen20833 Guest
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We blindly follow our doctor's advice bbut now with the internet at our disposal we can research any medications we are issued and thank God for it. After 9 months of hell on simvastatin 40mg and losartan/hydro 100/25 I have discontinued taking both. The endless list of sife effects including insomnia/cramp/ lightheadedness, digestive and muscle problems and so on and so forth I am taking charge of my own health. Sadly doctors appear not to "listen" when patients complain of life changing side effects and yet users as a rule complain of similiar ill effects. I didn't tell my doctor I was stopping my medication for fear it would reflect upon his care of me should illness issues arise in the future, which is a sad reflection upon the way doctor/patient relationships have subtly altered in the face of the interjection of multi millionaire drug companies. Keep positive and make your own small changes to better your health! I wish you, and all others who posted on this site, the very best
lee12629 helen20833
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I lnow the internet has really enlightened people,now if doctors only would study articles on the net it would really help. Ive told doctors things they had no clue about. Frankly its hard to believe they don't look and study more on the net!
loxie lee12629
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how true lee. Not just with drug prescriptions where they won't or don't believe the patient regarding the side effects. I have had a worrying time with a type of painful growth on one ear, which of course I worried might be cancer. Two GP's at my group practice and one referral to a plastic surgeon/dermatologist specialist and none could/would tell me what was wrong. Purely by chance I saw a different GP for an unrelated problem and just mentioned it to her, she took one look and said 'oh that's nothing to worry about, its chondrodermatitis nodularis helicis (CNH for short)' it's apparently a pressure sore from too much continuous pressure on the cartilage surrounding the ear - totally understandable for me as I use my work phone against that ear all day and I sleep on that side - easily remedied by avoiding all further pressure on that ear. I googled it and it's fairly common and non life threatening. Why the heck didnt two long standing experienced GP's and a specialist too not identify it? They get qualified whilst young and the only thing thereafter they update themselves on is which drugs to prescribe/earn money from - obviously they dont keep up to date on patient feedback on forums etc.
helen20833 lee12629
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It's interesting that many doctor's are contemptuous of patients going online to research their health issues. Patients are at their most vunerable/worried when seated before their physician and look to them for reassurance and help.I appreciate that one's imagination can run wild during internet research of physical symptoms but, arming one's self with knowledge about the drugs we are prescribed can only be advantageous to a person and sites like this, where we can share experiences, be they good or bad, are invaluable. It gives us a voice when dismissed by doctor's who insist we continue medication that has an adverse effect, with side effects that outweigh the advantages. We are reassured that others, going through the same dilemnas, understand and it gives us knowlege to make an informed choice about dealing with all and any prescription drugs.
mrbob84 Guest
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Aren't doctors one of the people you never lie to? Along with your attorney and your accountant? In answer to a previous statement, I don't think it's wise to hold out on your doctor.
When it came time for me to make the break from my prescribed statins, I didn't hold back. I had told my cardiologist on several occasions over the months and years about how the statins were affecting my mind and my memory - making it an untrustable patchwork quilt, with big spaces in it - and actually printed some very powerful evidence out and dropped it off at his office, some of it from this site. He still would only say, "All medications have side effects". Period. End of story. All he would ever say on the subject. Every time I would ask. Head of cardiology at his hospital.
After going on and off of the statins several times to observe - and also demonstrate - exactly what would happen to my cholesterol - when on them it would be down by a full third, not allowing my brain the needed fats it uses to think with, when off them completely normal - I decided that the mental deficiencies they would cause were not worth the "just in case" heart protection of taking of them, which was why he had prescribed them for me. HIs heart was in the right place, but he didn't want to see any evidence differing from having his own recommendation being the only play on the field.
When I read the final cholesterol numbers to him after being off them for a month, he said, "You're perfect". I said, "That is when off the statins. I am going to stay off the statins, doctor." He said nothing.
My life is back to normal now. That's the way I did it, and he is still in the loop on exactly what my health condition really is. He is informed. Not necessarily happy with me, but fully informed.
I want my doctors to be completely informed, when it's my health they hold in their hands. Even if they don't agree with my own personal decisions, regarding my own personal health, around things they are obviously totally oblivious of.
loxie mrbob84
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Very wise advice MrBob. You sound in control of your own wellbeing which is fabulous. Unfortunately some doctors can be intimidating to disagree with and as has been stated frequently, are very contemptuous of patients doing their own internet research - understandably in many cases, as there is far too much anecdotal and unproven info online. I just wish they would be a little more understanding of those patients who really do have issues with some meds and not just waft it away with the usual 'all meds have side effects' - exactly as you have commented with your doctor on this subject. Being assertive but reasonable and upfront with one's doctor is very much the best way forward - however I myself encounter doctors in my group practice who make it so difficult to be honest because of their aggressive stance when they feel 'questioned' on their expertise or knowledge. I gave up trying to be reasonable and just flushed my statins down the toilet - not once has any doctor at my practice ever asked if i'm still taking them, nor offered tests of any kind. I unfortunately feel very let down by that attitude and sympathise with those who feel 'scared' to argue the decisions of their own doctor.
helen20833 mrbob84
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You are of course correct, one should liase with one's doctor and don't think I haven't tried. The past 9 months on both medications have been the worst in my life and I wasn't seeing any advantages. What made me decide to take matters into my own hands , added to the many horrendous side effects, was that of breathlessness which was frightening to say the least. After two weeks of drug abstince I was slowly but surely feeling better and the side effects are subsiding. I feel more like my old self and once I am armed with enough " ammunition" to justify my going against the doctor I will doubtless inform him
helen20833 loxie
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I really appreciate your response! I was in the situation you so eloquently described! And as you so rightly point out, I felt too embarrassed and intimidated to stand my ground in the face of the doctor's mutinous attitude to my daring to question his judgement. All in all he's a good man but his belief in his being right and I but a fool, blinds him somewhat Your post made such a huge difference to my feelings of anxiety and daring to defy medical advice and brought me great comfort and for that I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
lee12629 helen20833
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loxie helen20833
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Oh Helen, I really do sympathise. I'm normally a confident person, at work I am assertive and confident and able to handle very difficult and aggressive intermediaries etc., however medical professionals have a totally unique way of dismissing any patient opinion that differs from their own - not always by aggression but invariably with a quiet arrogance which is very disconcerting and confidence sapping. I fully understand their years of training and experience versus my limited knowledge gained only by brief research but in the end I live in my body and I know when it's telling me things aren't right.
helen20833 lee12629
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helen20833 loxie
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You have a wonderful sense of word flow...I say this as a fiction writer of many years standing by the way! If you are not persuing literary avenues then you damn well should be. To be able to paint a picture in words is a gift given to few. I like to think of myself as an intelligent, well read woman and yet, and here I smile, faced with my gp I am reduced to a trembling 3 year old Judging by his expression one would think I'd piddled on his carpeted floor, lol! That I have the temerity to question his judgement! How dare I ! Avoidance of confrontation might not be the right path to take but makes for a peaceful life. And I do so enjoy a peaceful life, it is, after all, short.
loxie helen20833
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Thank you for the compliments Helen, blushing here. I dont think I have the application or tenacity to write professionally, nor the imagination probably
I so empathise re confronting my doctors. I go armed with a written list and a determination worthy of an arctic explorer, then one derogatory glance from my GP later and I've become somehow subservient. Happens to a lot of us I guess - thus the fault is there 'bedside manner' not our lack of courage. I do think you are right however in avoiding confrontation if you don't feel it's right - nothing worse than getting labelled as a troublesome patient, as next time they may not listen at all.
helen20833 loxie
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And there you hit the nail on the head. The fear of the doctor taking the stance that " You didn't listen to me last time! " I've witnessed the attitude towards problematic patients who dare to opine. Doctors, nurses and the reception staff close ranks, attitudes change and an element of hostility results in a sudden lack of helpfullness. Knowing I have not ruffled any feathers nor bruised the doctors dignity, I shall wallow quite contentedly in my cowardice