Some pain, some bleeding
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I'm 70 yrs old and 12 days since my turp surgery. Spent one night in the hospital with a cath that was removed the next morning before leaving the hospital. At times my urine is almost clear and other times it looks a dark pink. Sometimes a few drops of what looks like blood when finishing up. Most times a burning pain at the begining and end of urniation. No sex yet, haven't tried, haven't wanted to. I still get up frequently during the night and go allot during the day. I think most of that it due to the massive amount of water I drink. Was told to drink lots of water to keep things flushed out, it works. Before turp it was very hard for me to pee at night and if I had been sitting too long, I don't have that problem now and the stream is way better than it was prior to turp. I do tend to drip before and after urination, I do wear protection (depends) so not to soil my clothes. So far I am happy I had the procedure, hope I still feel that way months from now. I see the Doc in 18 days, I hope all is going as it should.
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joe78408
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Waffalobill joe78408
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They test for the usual stuff. Plus test if it's new or old blood. He can tell if your bleeding bad or not. Good to hear all is well. I peed cherry koolaide a week after when I saw him. A month later was still very orange/red. Then it cleared up.
joe78408
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Had turp on 11/08 with all the usual problems from what I have read. Around 11/28 the passing of scabs, clots and blood stopped and urine was golden to clear, Slept through the night two nights in a row, oh what a feeling. I thought all the bleeding and everything else was over till I started bleeding dark red again and passing painfull scabs and clots. Here we go again. Still bleeding and passing junk, now I'm worried. I'm due to see the doc again on 12/08, wishing it was tomorrow.
Waffalobill joe78408
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Plz don't say you have been doing any heavy lifting?
kenneth1955 joe78408
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Joe All I'm going to say is Good Luck Ken
joe78408 Waffalobill
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Waffalobill joe78408
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joe78408 Waffalobill
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Also at that time I was doing a good bit of sneezing trying to take a cold. Passing lots of scabs today and this evening. I was wondering if the scabs coming off is causing some new bleed. It's almost like that first week post surgery except for all the scabs / clots in the toilet.
Waffalobill joe78408
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Will pass alot of clots and tissue. The bigger chunks that couldn't pass threw the Cath. They float around for a while. Nurses should have been clearing your Cath and drawing them out . Twice a shift is what I heard my doc tell them. That hurt. They blow water in with a giant syringe. Then draw it out. Pulls out bigger ones that clog Cath.
joe78408 Waffalobill
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I am not at the hospital nor do I have a cath. The scabs and blood I have been passing have all been through the penis. 26 days post op, I would think things should be better than they are. I'm at the toilet every 30 minutes painfully passing blood with scabs about every fourth trip. Got a call into the doc but being Sunday who knows.
Waffalobill joe78408
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They kept me in 2 days. The first day with flush running wide open. Went threw 9 bags. Second day they shut it down to see what color was still coming out. Nurses where supposed to clear big chunks. Only one did. So after I was released, sent home, I was passing big chunks for a long time. Doc found out he went to head of nursing staff and tore them up. They actually called me on the phone. It's a slow process but best to get uros opinion on it. I seen him 6 days post op. 8 days post op. And a couple more times before 3 week post op.
joe78408
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Waffalobill joe78408
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That's good to hear. I had a clot get stuck to. Doc cathed me in the office thinking I may have scar tissue blocking flow. But he felt no resistance. Then I passed a huge clot. Stream was great after that.
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paul96555 Waffalobill
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reading that, I am squirming, as a blockage was my big fear when I had a day passing two big clots. I took a few days more complete rest than is usual for me after (I don't usually sit down for long at a time), and bleeding stopped completely, both in terms of blood-in-pee, and the clots, from the very next day. Whether that is because of the reduced activity I can't say, but it may have been. Rest seems a good idea for those whose clot activity is increasing, to stop disturbing scabs / clots too soon allowing the next one to start to form. But who knows.
Waffalobill paul96555
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When they remove alot of tissue nurses are supposed to clear Cath. My doc told then twice a shift. Only one did it. So I had slot of stuff couldn't pass threw the Cath or on my own. Why I had a blockage. I passed chunks I couldn't believe made it out after that clot was moved.
paul96555 Waffalobill
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They did the big syringe in/out thing once (2 goes, but all in one occasion) for me, just before removal of the cath. The fluid was coming out clear each time (so it didn't look like it needed doing any more), and she definitely was emptying the bladder completely, because it was an "ouch" moment when the end of the cath was nipping onto the inside of my bladder; a very minor ouch mind you, compared to about 2 minutes later when she pulled the catheter out in 3 seconds flat (the previous nurse had told me it would be pulled out over the course of 10 seconds, not 3) which was a really big ouch, with about a minute of after-pain.
Should they have also done it (the syringe thing) earlier ? - I doubt it; I'd had the op at 9pm the night before, this was 2pm the next day, and by 9pm that evening I'd begun to pee just enough (only 50 ml at a time) for them to let me go home. Small prostate, mine, so probably easier than for some. I would have appreciated knowing that it's normal to not be able to pee for the first 2 hours or so after cath removal; I know that now, but at the time I didn't, nurse wasn't telling me if it was a big deal or not, she just told me to take a walk and relax. I get the impression that it's not uncommon and men needn't worry about this at first. Don't drink too fast is my advice (not theirs) at this time, before you are able to pee (if not immediately able to post-cath-removal) to give it time to un-swell down there before you really need to pee. Drink loads of course once you can pee, to counteract infection risk and keep pee concentration down (prevents some of the pee pain), that is v. important.
Waffalobill paul96555
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joe78408 paul96555
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Waffalobill joe78408
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joe78408 Waffalobill
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Waffalobill joe78408
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The second time was way less than the first. Almost no pain. Just from that Cath. Operation was at 4 pm. Was out of the hospital by 11 am next day. Best thing no need for more antibiotics. They gave me a couple in hospital. No more needed. Didn't need pain pills. Was told I could have them every 4 hours. I took a couple told them I was good. Hate taking pain meds.
joe78408 Waffalobill
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I'm glad things are going well for you, how long has it ben since your second go at it, any incontinents. I hope you continue to do well
Waffalobill joe78408
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joe78408 Waffalobill
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Now that is good to hear. I have no pain but I do have some, but not much dripping at the end of peeing. I am still drinking allot of water, it's about an hour between trips to the bathroom. Over night, 9 hours, I was up three times to pee. All is clear, stream is good to sometimes not so good overnight but good all through the day.
Waffalobill joe78408
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joe78408 Waffalobill
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rick47445 paul96555
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joe78408 rick47445
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frank74205 rick47445
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Hi Rick,Sounds like you had a successful turp surgery. congradulations.May i ask how old are you?I'm 87 my uro wanted to turp ,i held off and started cic?Now i'm wondering if it's to late,since i have urine retention?Did you have acute urine retention?
Thanks Rick for this info.
frank,
rick47445 frank74205
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Waffalobill rick47445
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Also depends on what kind of TURP and how much material he removed. Second TURP I had they didn't remove as much. I didn't pass any clots. A couple small pieces of material. Very small scab. Been almost 60 days.
rick47445 joe78408
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rick47445 Waffalobill
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zdzislaw rick47445
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is the poor condition of my bladder. Nothing to do with the prostate. I am doing CIC.
zdzislaw frank74205
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Frank, I am 76 and TURP didn't help (except perhaps that CIC is easy...). My bladder is too week to empty by itself.
joe78408 rick47445
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Consider yourself one of the lucky few. Scabs and clots do not cause pain when passing I was told it was "normal". Normal for one may not be normal for another. Good luck with your recovery.
zev31016 rick47445
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kenneth1955 zdzislaw
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Zdzislaw. Sorry that your still having a problem. Not a fan of turp. But I found out something last week from a doctor. . If you go to the doctor and they can't find a reason for your problem they wiil assume it's your prostate causing the problem and want to cut it out.. That is wrong. It could be your pladder or your kidneys. That is also like another guy on hear he has some bleeding sometimes don't know where it is coming from. His doctor told him lets do a turp. He ask if that would stop the bleeding. The urologist said I don't know we don't know where the bleeding is coming from. That is wrong then just assume it's the prostate. Why have surgery if it not going to fix the problem. but cause more problem. Franks doctor wanted to do a turp but his doctor told him that it would not help him and he still would have to do CIC. Why even tell somebody if it not going to work why have the surgery. There are do many men on here that are having surgery I don't care what kind you are having but make sure you are having the problem fix. Got all the information you can.....Please don't cause yourself more problem. Take care Ken
zdzislaw kenneth1955
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Ken, I HAD the surgery. And they should have told me BEFORE that my bladder was week - they didn't. My post-surgery experience wasn't bad, but of course nothing improved!!!! NOTHING. Frank definitely shouldn't even think about it - what for??? Z
frank74205 zdzislaw
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Hi zdzislaw, Turp didn't work for you, because your bladder is to weak to empty on it's own. Did you have a urodynamics test before turp?This should tell you if your bladder is too weak. I would like to hear from you ,please let me know if you had the urodynamics test.I'm 87 and am thinking about getting this surgery? Thanks very much .
frank,
kenneth1955 frank74205
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Frank. Why would you do that Your doctor even told you that even if you have it. You will still have to do CIC The surgery will not work for you. I don't even know why he suggested it. Please take care Ken
kenneth1955 zdzislaw
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Buddy I am so sorry that you had it. They should have did more test and told you about your problem. Why have the surgery to remove the prostate tissue when it's not the prostate. That why I say ask question and get more information. And if you have to go get a secound opioion. Take it easy buddy Ken
rick47445 zev31016
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zev31016 rick47445
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Rick - that's great. I guess being home with a catheter can be as good or almost as good as staying in the hospital. There are, of course, good reasons for leaving a hospital as soon as you can. In my case, I was happy they kept me there. Also, it may have been because my prostate was very large - something like 75-85 grams, and the surgery was a combined TURP and TUVP (vapor) procedure. How are things coming along? Wish you the best!
Waffalobill zev31016
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Depends on the material removed. Cath needs to be flushed regularly if there's alot of material or large clots. They will plug up the cath. Then then fluid they are putting in can't get out. Mine plugged up before I got to my room. Thought my bladder was going to explode. Nurse cleared about 10 inches of stuff in tube and a bunch of material in the Cath.
zdzislaw rick47445
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zdzislaw frank74205
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Frank, I hadn't any urodynamic test. I didn't know at that time that my prostate wasn't the main obstruction for peeing. My uro told me about the poor condition of my bladder at the cystoscopy 3 months later.
Before my TURP I was very close to urine retention. Green Light laser was planned for me, but I have also prostate cancer (ever since 2002,
no treatment till 2013, intermittent hormonal treatment after 2012). My PCa turned out not to be agressive, but it was impossible to pulverize it
effectively with GL. So they switched to TURP. After TURP my recovery was very quick, except that I could never pee really really well. Five months after TURP I strated having more and more leaking at night and
less and less of NV. Now, 9 months after, I am self-catherizing 5 times per day. What is the condition of your bladder?
zdzislaw kenneth1955
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Ken, Of course they should have, but I wasn't informed enough...
Thanks for your words of support. Frank, Ken is right, if it is your
bladder that is week, TURP won't change anything. Z
kenneth1955 zdzislaw
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Hey buddy I'm sorry for your problem. Did you agree to the turp or did the doctor decide to do it while you were under. That would never happen to me. I had to have a repair done on my urolift. One got loose and my doctor had to put a new one in and tighten the other three. After 2 day with a catheter I was fine a little burning the first day but was great. Went on all my med for my heart two blood thinners.this was on a tuesday. Sunday morning I got up at 5AM to go to the bathroom. Sat down and I felt a cush when I got up it was full of blood no urine. Call the doctor on duty and told her everything and she said that I must have broke a blood vessel in my bladder to drink alot of water to flush it out. So I drank a bottle of water. Within a few minutes I had to go so I stood and went but it was all blood again. After that I could not go at all. Call again and was told to go to the hospital. I started having bladder spasms and boy to they hurt. Every time I moved I was having a spasm and bleeding. Got to the hospital and they know I was coming but I have to wait 2 hours for a room to have the procedure done. While I was waited was having spasm. Had to get myself on the table blood all over. I told the nurse that I had a stricture and I was under a doctors care and only could have 14fr or under coude catheter she had to go get one I had to be flush by hand They gave me morphine for pain and it took her 2 times to get the catheter in the bladder. That hurt like hell and I was still bleeding and the spasm were painful even with the morphine. The urologist that was on duty called to see what was going on. I was still bleeding I had to have emergency surgery to see where the blood was coming from. This was not my doctor and being he did not know me. I would not sign for surgery until he signed a paper that my prostate was not to be touch for any reason. I told him I would not sign unless he sign the other paper. I told him that I would lay here and bleed It took him 30 minutes to sign the paper and I had 2 nurses witness. I will not give no doctor full control. It turned out to be 3 blood clogs around my prostate. he burned them and he must have been mad at me because he put in a 3 way 24 fr straight catheter to flush it out for 3 day. When that came out it was painfull It took the nurse 2 times to pull it out because it kept going back in. All was good after I was told by my doctor that I should have waited for 2 weeks to go back on the blood thinners. I will not give up my prostate for any reason. My doctor know how I feel. I hope things get better for you. Ken Sorry this is so long
uncklefester Waffalobill
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Waffalobill uncklefester
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zdzislaw kenneth1955
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Your story is very uplifting. Thank you for sharing! I had been very obstinate
With the doctors that wanted to remove or radiate my prostate
because of the cancer. I guess GL seemed so harmless in comparison
that I didn't give it a second thought. I signed the paper saying that
if anything unexpected happens, they can decide by themselves,
so they did...Yes, I was under when they switched from GL to TURP.
I don't think this did me any more harm than GL. What they should have done,
however, was preparing me to the operation by self cathing, check
my bladder etc. This was neglected! Z
kenneth1955 zdzislaw
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joe78408 zdzislaw
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rick47445 paul96555
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Waffalobill rick47445
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rick47445 Waffalobill
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Waffalobill rick47445
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The scabs will fall off and regrow for a long time till it's totally healed. Each time it falls off it may bleed a little. It will stay in your urethra and clot. When you pee the loose scabs fall off and travel out along with the small clots. If he took material off close or in bladder neck, I imagine the blood could get into you bladder. At 6 weeks I was still loosing scabs once in a while. Still a little blood in urine once in a while. Very little. You also have to remember the procedure can be a little rough on the urethra. You will get scabs falling off from the trauma to it and bleeding. Can also have scar tissue form in it. Doc told me it's usually within the first inch or so inside your penis.