statins are important for health

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hello, i have been reading a lot regarding statins and its side effects.  I have been taking off and on for the past four years in fear. My sister was also diagnosed with familial high cholesterol and was taking statins for a short time then stopped for the past three years or so.

she has now been diagnosed with heart blockage and her cholesterol was sky high 9. she needs to do angiogram and stent if required.  it started with her sweating, chest pain and all.

so I request those with high cholesterol please do not be put off by the wrong info on the net. there are no side effect.

A friend of mine has been taking for 10 years and more and he is running around..he is in his late 40s. and I asked him if he gets any side effects and he said nothing. he feels fine.

please avoid heart blockages and other related diseases because of cholesterol

thanks Jenna

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    For those who have familial high cholesterol or a previous heart attack or stroke, then a low dose of statin might be beneficial Jenna, but too many healthy people are being prescribed this drug.  People who have had no familial indicators, no heart attack, no stroke or minor stroke, and for those people statins are producing some very nasty side effects.  This is not just information from the net, but friends I have spoken to about their statins and how they have affected their lives.  I watched my nan go from a perfectly healthy, happy, and active individual to a dementia suffering cripple within months of starting statins.  I am watching my mum go through the same thing, but refusing to stop taking them.  There are many books out there on how bad cholesterol lowering drugs are for you.  If you want to lower your cholesterol, eat a sensible diet and exercise.  Every one is different and everyone reacts differently to statins, but I would avoid them at all costs if you notice your health deteriorating.  My health went down rapidly after starting them so I came off them and now I am improving.  The myth surrounding statins and how wonderful they are is based on biased surveys done  by pharmaceutical companies who are the only people who benefit from handing out these drugs.  They are NOT a superdrug, but they are making the pharmaceutical companies super rich.
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      Hi Jan, sorry to hear that. yes, the doctors should properly research the cause of high cholesterol .  me and my sister both have familial cholesterol with reading upto 9. but no history of heart attacks or any heart disease.  I am diagnosed with high BP that too, inherited from my late father. Very grateful that he did not have diabetes.  So cholesterol and BP can be controlled. maybe some people are taking higher doses. I am taking 10 mg. and its fine, my life is the same, doing exercises, aerobics,yoga etc except for the age related aches and pains, i even go dancing with my friends once in a month..

      sorry to hear about your mum..hope she get better very soon. God bless

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      There has been much research into high cholesterol and it is made by our own bodies to help the body function and to protect us.  By using statins you are blocking the bodies natural ability to make it and the balance is shifted.  I am not a medical professional, but I would strongly urge people on higher doses, based on my own experience, to question the efficacy of such a drug and to reconsider taking them if they become ill and as no prescribing doctor will tell you what those side effects might be, read the information leaflet that comes with the tablet and make an informed decision.   

      I had a minor stroke last year and was aggressively told at my follow up appointment that it was "only a small one, so stop making a fuss". I was placed on 80mg of Atorvastatin (for the rest of your life or you will die) and within days I couldn't think straight, my short term memory had gone (and is still bad a month after coming off them).  I suffered confusion, depression, anxiety and panic attacks.  I developed breathing difficulties (which have not improved, so my lungs have been damaged and I have been diagnosed with COPD), muscle and joint pain to the point where I couldn't walk from one room to another without breaking out in a sweat and showering was a scary experience because by the time I'd finished my legs were so weak, I could barely stand and was shaking with the effort.  Night cramps in my legs and stomach problems.   My blood sugar levels were raised since my previous blood tests and I was heading for Type II diabetes.    Most of these have improved at varying degrees since I came off the statins.  Now, if I was on 10mg, like yourself, I may not have suffered all those horrible side effects, but when I asked for a review, I was denied, and so I decided (because I do have a choice), not to take them any more.  

      All of my blood tests prior to being put on statins showed average HDL and LDL levels with no cause for concern, and my ECG and heart stress tests showed my risk of heart disease within the next 10 years as low. 

      So you may ask why I was put on statins?  The morning of the stroke, I had been in hospital for a cerebral angiogram to check the coiling in my head from an brain bleed in 2001 was still intact and I was told before the operation there was a risk of stroke.  Not because of anything wrong with my arteries, but because the catheter they insert can form clots around and within it and the blood pumping around the arteries does the rest bringing that clot to an area where it blocks the artery, in my case, the area where I had the previous aneurysm coiled.  The area of the aneurysm is sealed but still allows blood to flow through, but not clots.  You are awake during the procedure as it is done under a local anaesthetic, and even after the anaesthetic, I felt the catheter scrape against my artery walls, so more anaesthetic was given rather than abort the procedure.  

      As for my mum, she is now 86 and in the year since she started the statins has become so ill, there is no return for her and she will not get better.

      I am truly sorry that your sister is going through what she is and I hope that her stent operation is successful.  In her case a low dose of statins following her operation may be of benefit to her, but I would urge both you and her to ask your own doctors and specialists whether they would take statins and if not, ask why.

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      wow..so so sorry to hear this...80 mg. is high thats the reason for all those horrible side effects. well you may have needed a different course of action rather than statins. you are right..this is should be invesigated further.  thanks dear, waiting for angiogram to be done so we know whether she needs a stent or not.  keep well and sincerely pray for your mother.
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    I agree with you Jenna that Statins are a very important drug for those people who have Familial Hypercholesteremia and for those who have had previous "cardiology events".  It is wise for these people to continue taking them.

    However, a vast amount of people have strongly elevated cholesterol levels because of poor diet and a sedentary lifestyle. The amount of people you see on a daily basis (here in the U.S.) that are obese or well over their BMI is astounding.  The main antagonist in all of this is the food mfg industry.  Processed and refined foods are a tremendous culprit in our society and being able to avoid this food is challenging to say the least.  The majority of food that is sold in cans, bags, jars, and boxes I avoid purchasing when at the grocery store.  I would say over 95% of it is unhealthy garbage.  And don't even get me started on the unhealthy ingredients used in the restaurant industry.  But most people will not change their dietary intake decisions to keep their cholesterol normal and would rather take a statin so they can keep feasting on bad processed food sold by our grocery industry.

     

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      you are right, people need to change their life style or will be left with clogged arteries.  me and my sister both have familial cholesterol with reading upto 9. but no history of heart attacks or any heart disease.  I am diagnosed with high BP that too, inherited from my late father. Very grateful that he did not have diabetes.  So cholesterol and BP can be controlled. maybe some people are taking higher doses. I am taking 10 mg. and its fine, my life is the same, doing exercises, aerobics,yoga etc except for the age related aches and pains, i even go dancing with my friends once in a month..
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    Jenna, I am very sorry to hear of your sister's heart issues but your statement that there are 'no side effects' is both wrong and very dangerous.  Many many people unfortunately suffer devasting health problems as a result of side effects from statins and many of those should never have been prescribed them in the first place, as stated by Jan and others.  I was one of the unlucky ones I guess.  I ended up in A&E and was informed by the attending physician that it was most definitely as a result of adverse reactions to taking statins and was told quite categorically to stop taking them immediately.  I too had familial high cholesterol, with a reading of 9.  Prior to taking statins I had good general health, normal BP, normal blood sugar, was not overweight and ate a mostly vegetarian diet.  After just three months of taking statins I was relatively housebound, unable to move almost any muscle in my body without horrendous pain, I had liver issues, I had cognitive problems and gained around 2 stone in weight.  It's taken almost four years to recover and I still have compromised muscles and have recently been diagnosed with full thickness ruptured bicep tendons - not caused by injury or excessive activity but by my muscles being abnormally weakened.  My liver function improved - luckily the liver heals itself, my memory and other cognitive issues have also improved but its taken a very long time and my health will never be back to where it was.  So please dont assume that because one or two people are fortunate enough not to have suffered as a result of the statin epidemic, that that means the rest of us are making it up!!

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      oh so sorry to hear about your predicament Loxie, what sort of statins were you taking? atoravastatin have a record of very minimal side effects (I dont feel any for the past four years), with low dosage.  High dosage is more detriment to health. perhaps reduce to 10 mg? so now what are doing regarding the high cholesterol? unfortunately familial high cholesterol doesnt go down with change of lifestyle. I tried a lot..lost lot of weight, exercising, eating healthy but only few points difference thats why my doctor put me on statins and so far my cholesterol is at 6. i have normal age related aches and pains which a good massage takes care of. I am really sorry about what you have to go through but please keep in mind the possibility of clogged arteries..its very distrubing.. wish you all the best and hope you get better and certainly I dont assume that the you all are making up the symptoms...but you need to look at alternate so your arteries are healthy.
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      I was originally on a low dose of simvastatin then very swiftly swapped to atorvastatin, there was no noticeable improvement in my issues.  It is to be remembered that statins lower ALL cholesterol, both HDL and LDL and an artificially low overall cholesterol level is clinically proven to be detrimental to many areas of health.  It's the differential that's important - if both 'good and 'bad' cholesterol is high, the risks are very much reduced as opposed to having low good and high bad.  Doctors are given out statins like smarties without any consideration of whether they are actually a suitable medication for the individual's personal circumstances.  If I had any risk of atherosclerosis my BP would also have been raised (a prime indicator) but the fact my BP was absolutely normal was either totally ignored or overlooked in the rush to tick a box and get me on statins along with the millions of other guinea pigs.  I suggest you take a look at Statin Nation - I sure wish I had before being a blind idiot and letting my GP poison me.

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      one last point - before statins I was HEALTHY - i ate well, i exercised, my BMI was normal.  Due to statins, my weight rocketed, my BP rose, my blood glucose level rose (recorded evidence indicates statins regularly contribute to type 2 diabetes), I could no longer exercise and I became stressed and depressed - I'm more likely to have a heart episode due to those facts than I ever was as a result of only having high cholesterol.  I feel stupid and ignorant for accepting blindly that my GP knew best.  The marketing teams at the pharmaceutical companies were the clever ones.

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      I agree wholeheartedly with you loxie.   I did have certain risk factors, being overweight, a slightly high blood pressure (put down to white coat syndrome - not liking being at the doctors), my dad died from an ischeimic heart attack and my mum has a pacemaker due to Stokes Adams syndrome, which I am frequently told is not hereditary.  Neither had high cholesterol. I was an ex-smoker but am now nearly 3 years without and my health was fairly good considering.  After my mini stroke, I had to wait in A&E for the stroke doctor to see me before I could leave and when he came it was just to tell me I had to take the statins.  5 minutes - 10 minutes max consultation and hitting me with the pill thing when I was feeling vulnerable and scared.  I have not seen him since and I haven't seen the scans of my stroke just told it was in the occipital area.  What concerns me is that they may have it wrong because from the description in the follow up letter I got, what they are describing is more or less the same as when I had my brain haemorrhage in 2001 and am wondering if (because they no longer have my notes from 2001 because they got lost when they were transferred in a hospital move), they have actually identified the area of the coiling and thought it was a stroke.  No-one seems to have the time or patience to sit down and explain things any more.  When I had my BH they were great.  I had leaflets given to me, was shown the scans and they pointed out where the aneurysm was and how it had been fixed and went out of their way to reassure me.  This time around it was basically "you've had a stroke and you must take these pills for the rest of your life or you'll die - goodbye".  

      I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow to discuss why I've come off the statins and will remain off them and I also have a letter typed up for the stroke doctor I saw and have printed off a list of questions I want to send to the neurology department - the main one being why was I sent for a cerebral angiogram when the alternative that was discussed was an MRI/MRA (far less invasive) and what was seen in my previous MRI that prompted that decision.  No-one has told me that and I need answers.  

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      I had the same scare tactics applied Jan - my GP stated I was a stroke waiting to happen and actually said he'd be surprised if I didnt have one before I even left the surgery! I felt grateful at the time he'd prescribed something to save my life - oh foolish ignorant me.  A TIA (mini stroke) doesnt leave an audit trail as such and TIA's are not always an indicator that a major stroke is imminent.  I have a friend who has had several TIA's and whilst they havent yet found the exact cause they have told her quite categorically it is nothing to do with block arteries or heart problems - it's something else neurological happening and because by the time she presents at the hospital following the TIA there are no lasting effects showing up, it's very difficult to analyse.  If a patient suffers a TIA in isolation to anything else its apparently almost impossible to even state they've actually had one.  You could well be right that what they were seeing was related to your previous BH therefore.  Good luck with your doctor and dont let him/her bully you.

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      what frightens me Jan is that prior to taking statins I may have had very high cholesterol but I had NO other risk factors - now I do, directly as a result of taking them - I stopped being able to exercise, I gained weight and developed a sedentary lifestyle, I had to take copious amounts of pain meds including anti inflammatories and my blood pressure rose as a result of the stress of it all.  The statins also made my blood sugar rise and I was heading towards being pre diabetic.  
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      Well my doctors appointment didn't go to plan.  Fifteen minutes late in and I only get 10 minutes.  About 8 minutes of that was my doctor telling me how good statins were and that if she didn't insist on them she was failing me as her doctor.  I said I would no longer take them.  She then tried to put me on a lower dose one of Pravastatin, and I said no.  She did say that it was my choice not to take them, but she would not approve of it, then she tried scare tactics of what happened to a couple of other patients who refused to take them, but I still said no.

      When you take into account everything that statins are supposed to help you with, good for heart, prevents further strokes, etc, etc, but they actually destroy muscle, increase appetite, block the making of life supporting lipids or cholesterol as we know it, then it just doesn't make sense.   

      I did agree to go back on the Clopidogrel, but if I start feeling ill on those again, I'll be straight off them and will be writing to the stroke specialist and leave my doctor out of the loop because I have totally lost faith there.

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