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Still feel unwell after Helicobacter Pylori Treatment

Hi,

I had symptoms for about 2 months, nausea and upper abdominal gwaning feeling, plus appetite affected and had waves in the day feeling generally unwell , I think it was brought on due to a stressful situation. I went to the doctors and tested positive for helicobacter pylori. I have completed the 7 day treatment (Triple Therapy.) I was on 400mg Metronidazole 3 times a day, Amoxicillin 500mg 3 times a day and Omeprazole 2 times a day. I've been off the medication for about 11 days. I have waves of extreme tiredness, abit sickly feeling, sick upper abdominal feeling, tounge doesn't look right, been given thrush treatment for this. And also I have waves of soreness and swelling feeling in the upper stomach. I have lost a bit of weight, a few pounds. I have been off work for a month in total and am wondering if I will ever get my health back?

I take probiotic tablets, Manuka honey, peppermint tea, abit of yoga, walking, plain foods. But admittedly at times I do feel a little bit destressed when I have waves of not feeling so good. Everyday is a battle at the moment. Plus when I go to the loo, last week my stools were acidic, this week a slight improvement, but not normal. The doctor just said they can retest in another 3 weeks. But sometimes I feel so ill.

Any advice in a positive way forward?

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  • TCake TCake louise63558

    Hi, I have been experiencing the same as you.  I too tested positive for h pylori just last month and was put on the same drugs as you but for two weeks.  I finished the course on 2 May (so over three weeks ago) and still suffer from the same symptoms.  The doc says he will retest me in six weeks so I have another three to go.  The gnawing pains in my stomach are awful and I feel pain after swallowing.  I also have cough alot after meal times - like I have mucus in my throat and need to keep clearing it.  Hopefully someone might add to the thread and shine a light?  You should be retested soon so let me know whether the h pylori was eradicated or not.  Good luck x

    • louise63558 louise63558 TCake

      How are you today? Personally I am drained of energy, even after a good night sleep. I'm eating, but pale skin. I've heard this amount of anti-biotics can strip your goodness in the stomach lining. Mantra you have to keep telling yourself 'I will get better.' I know the whole experience is really hard as I'm going through it as well. Good Luck to you as well

    • TCake TCake louise63558

      Hope you feel better soon.  I have heard of people having to take another course of antibiotics if the first course didn't work.  I felt ill during the 2 week course, though my doc did warn me of the horrible side effects in advance!  When will you be retested?

    • louise63558 louise63558 TCake

      Maybe you should take Mastic Gum and Broccoli Sprout juice whilst your waiting to retest, cranberry Juice, Manuka Honey. Are you on anti-acid tablets?

      I'm not sure I still have it? For the last 2 days I've​ just had no energy. What do you do to take your mind of it whilst you wait?

    • louise63558 louise63558 TCake

      Maybe you should take Mastic Gum and Broccoli Sprout juice whilst your waiting to retest, cranberry Juice, Manuka Honey. Are you on anti-acid tablets?

      I'm not sure I still have it? For the last 2 days I've​ just had no energy. What do you do to take your mind of it whilst you wait?

      I think I can get retested in about 2 more weeks. Who knows if there will be any progress in that time? I'm not sure if I could take anymore anti-biotics. I've heard the anti-acid can effect the results. Although I'm not a doctor.

    • TCake TCake louise63558

      He warned me that the antibiotics could cause unpleasant side affects - apparently many people dont complete the course because of them.  I did though through gritted teeth! Doc said I should try to come off the Nexium at least 10 days before we retest as they can cause false negative.

  • TCake TCake louise63558

    I am taking Nexium and Zantac.  I just try to get out in the fresh air as much as possible with my dog to help keep my mind off things, plus the exercise helps me sleep.  I watch what I eat too - nothing spicy or acidic (like fruit juices etc) and I find eating little and often helps too.

  • sandra18523 sandra18523 louise63558

    Hi,

    I also feel really bad after the pylori treatment. I was wondering if you are feeling better after 7 months. What is really frustrating is that I feel weak, nauseous and these palpitations create more anxiety. Thank you!

    • anna71424 anna71424 sandra18523

      I have never felt so bad after the antibiotics which was only 2 weeks ago getting heart palpitations feeling dizzy now I have more anxiety  more than ever because I feel that this h. Plyori hasn’t been eradicated and I have to wait until January until I come off the Omeprazole which I’ve dropped from 40 to 20 because that was making me feel even worse it’s a waiting game not good.

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 anna71424

      Anna,

      I am also taking omeprazole, just started yesterday. The bloating is better but still there. The palpitations is what worries me. I try to stay calm but it is difficult. When I try to think in something else it helps but still the palpitations don't go. We have to try and find ways to avoid anxiety. I am seeing a psychologist and see if that helps. The gastroenterologist told me to start a diet low in fiber, which was completely different to what I was doing eating mainly fruits and vegetables. We have to keep our minds busy. On top of it, I have menstrual cramps and the period always affects my hormones. We all need to think this is going to go. Ahhh, also, small meals and drink water 30 minutes after meals. I am trying to do 5 or 6 small meals a day. 1 or 2 portions of fruit and 2 or 3 portions of vegetables such as squash, potatos, spinach, eggplants. One portion is half a cup. I don't know if this will help but the gastroenterologist said it will. White bread, pasta and saltines. It will have to be for some days because we need fiber. I will let you know when the Dr. Tells me to stop. I am having a endoscopy on Th. Hope we all feel better every day.

    • anna71424 anna71424 sandra18523

      I have finished Omeprazole now but still feel awful but now I have noticed 2 red patches in the roof of my mouth sore one slightly bruised went to doctors about that and he didn’t know what it was so getting some blood tests done for that 

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 anna71424

      Anna,

      Every Dr. I have seen, even an acupuncturist say my palpitations and weakness are anxiety. I will try to exercise, healthy eating, a hobby, whatever it takes to get my health back. I don't know about the red spots, I hope you feel better soon.

  • josee17 josee17 louise63558

    I have a question.

    Im 22 diagnosed with h. Pylori in october of this year. Took meds for 2 weeks, since i stopped my medication ive lived threw hell. After a huge process of side effects with taking tecta i finally stopped that. But now i am constipated and sometimes ill have inflammation in my chest middle part. I drink tea morning night. Eat healthy. Drink loads of water. Im just starting to get discouraged. Any help?

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 josee17

      Jose,

      We are in the same situation, I hope you don't feel the palpitations! The gastroenterologist told me to drink water half an hour after meals. I always did it with meals. I hope it helps you.

    • josee17 josee17 sandra18523

      Hi sandra,

      Yes ive been having hearth palpitations.. some mornings i wake up better than ever. Some others its horrible... i try to keep busy since christmas is coming its not so hard. But it has been rough on me since i started having trouble eating in mid july. I took my antibiotics in october. And now i see posts of people saying it took them 7 months to become fully recovered! Wow.... i hope it goes well on your end. I am seeing a specialist friday, cant wait.

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 josee17

      Hi,

      Feeling better? I am doing a little better but the nausea, weakness and bloating have not dissapeared completely. I don't know if it is the omeprazole that is causing all this or in the contrary is what is helping reduce the symptoms. I hope you are feeling better! I am still eating very small amounts of food, trying to keep my weight is difficult!

  • jen28687 jen28687 louise63558

    I just found out I have pylori in Nov ever seance they did my upper gi I feel worse then I did be for they gave me pylera and I'm worry to take it cause I seen ppl post about it I was told it will kill it off I still don't get how I got it I've been trying different things but nothing don't help I feel like I die and went to hell I don't want to do nothing some days I feel good and other days u feel like s**t so can anyone help me out

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 jen28687

      Jen,

      I would do the treatment. Even though it was awful for me, there are medications that may work better. I had a endoscopy today and they found a mild swelling and sent some for a biopsy. I hope i don have to go for a second round but if we don't take the medication, I don't think this will ever end. I am trying to eat small amounts of food and nothing greasy. That worked before the treatment and I felt better. I will never know if not doing it would have been better. But if the pylori continues in our bodies we need to do something else.

  • tweens29519 tweens29519 louise63558

    Hi, I am just wondering if anyone knows if severe nausea is normal to have with a duodenal ulcer. I came off two antibiotics a week ago but I'm still having awful nausea even with taking two anti-nausea meds Zofran and Maxolon and a PPI. I have no energy but I'm putting that down to the after affects of the antibiotics. I had a scope in the hospital that confirmed a duodenal ulcer, I have mild burning in my stomach which I can cope with but the nausea is horrible. I am eating very plain foods and about every two hours. Is it normal to feel this sick with a duodenal ulcer.  

  • tamas92825 tamas92825 louise63558

    Hi! I was thinking to share my experience with this helicobacteria. I ate bad food in august 2017. I felt bad some days, nausea, stomach pain such as usual things if you eat bad food. Then it started to feel nausea each morning and had no taste for food. Sometimes I woke up in the night with stomach acid. I have never had problems such like this and did not know what it is. In September I felt very bad I was out of work for days. Then I went to doctors for check-up, I had blood test, ultrasound for stomach, gastro-sonda and several check-up by doctors. I received the usual triple therapy (I had helicobacter) at end of October for 14 days and got PPI for about a month. At Decembeer I went back for urea test what shown that helico is gone. I lost 12 kg and I am still on diet. It takes a very long time to recover and feel better. I would say the diet is a key to recover if the bacteria is eradicted. After medicines I felt bad every morning, then once a week then once 2 weeks. Now I feel bad if I eat bad (no acid food, no onions, tomatoes, spicy, drinks with gas or alcohol) but especially sweets bad for me. I can say that after 2 months the medicines it is better if I keep the diet. It takes a lot of time get better, some said it weeks, some sad months, it is up to body, diet and many other things. Keep on guys, no stress, keep diet, be patient and with the passing of time everything will be better!

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 sandra18523

      Sandra, I got the triple therapy as usual but I got PPI (pantonprazol) 2 pcs per day while I got antibiotics then once a day for 14 days. I have a friend who is a doctor she told me that some doctors prescribe it for long time but it is a strong medicine because it haults the stomach acid production. Partly good because protects stomach from acid but on other hand keeps back the immune system of the body (acid stops lot of bacteria in stomach). She suggested me to leave it step by step so at 10th day with pantonprazol I got only a half per day then half per every second day. She offered me to take rennie (it contains calcium carbonate, magnesium carbonate) if I feel acid but usually I try to avoid medicines. Don't worry, morning is always awful, the worst part of the day for stomach with such disease. So, I can not give advice for omeprazol but my advice is to drink green tea, tea for stomach from pharmacy if you feel pain in stomach and light walks helped me a lot. Eat often small portions due to diet. Now I feel not so well because 2 days ago I drunk a small beer what did not make good for my stomach (especially the gas) so it reminds me that it needs much more time to heal. If I keep light diet I have no huge problems anymore. Some people heal in weeks, some months, others years. Since when are you struggling with this cursed bacteria?

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 tamas92825

      Hi! It all started in July but the doctor did not do the h pylori test until November. It has been a month since I started the treatment, which was awful!!! I feel 50% better but I cannot wait to get my life back 100%!!! Today I don't have the upper stomach pain but some in the low stomach, but it is a different pain. Eating is not a pleasant feeling. I hope I feel much better when I go back to work in a week!! I hope you feel better! And thank you for the updates!! It keeps me sane to know other people are feeling better!

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 sandra18523

      Yes, I know the treatment was horrible, I felt pain for days with the antibiotics. I finished this therapy more than 2 months but still now not 100%. There are better days, there are worse days, depends on how I worry, stress and what I eat. This Christmas period did not help me (sweets and alcohol kills me now), so I had bad days now even if I drunk a small beer only.

      At these days I was made a new check-up with new docs, they made ultrasound for stomach and gastrodoc controlled me. They told me that this H.pylori made injuries in stomach what heal very slowly, some cases can be months and the most important now to keep diet and avoid stress. The injury must heal now. I started now De-Nol tablets, do you know it? They told me to get it for a month 4 times a day, it helps to protect stomach from acid to fasten the healing. It is a Dutch/Japanese stuff but not medicine exactly.Since then I got it I have no any symptoms and really better than anytime since August when I got this cursed H.pylori.

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 tamas92825

      No, I have not heard about those tablets. I am going to try the Mastic gum and oregano oil. My palpitations are back and this is what keeps me down. Doctors don't relate palpitations with h-pylori. They say it is anxiety so I am seeing a therapist. I feel really weak and shaky. Dr. Ordered a gastric emptying study to see why I cannot eat without feeling the sensation of wanting to vomit. Down 25 pounds so far sad. Again, they don't seem to relate my symptoms with the h-pylory!!! The omeprazole made me feel awful and he wanted me to keep taking it!! Also, it was not eradicated with the first treatment but Dr. said we can wait for a second treatment as it was awful for me. Again, it seems they do not relate what I feel with H-pylory but from what I read from you all, it does have to do with the H-pylori. If a second treatment is going to be awful, I think I am going to wait until I have a break and can be home without worrying for my job.

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 sandra18523

      This Mastic Gum I read a lot but here in Hungary we have no and doctors did not offered. Oregano oil I did not try but oregano is good against this H.pylori. Palpitations should not caused by H.P. but it can be from nerves what caused this HP infections. In some cases (1-2 times) I also felt this but gone soon. Don't forget that anxiety can be caused by stomach problems (it has many nerves in our stomach system) what caused this bacteria. Feeling of vomit. Try to eat for some days which foods you don't feel this vomit. Some bread good for me, some (dark ones) cause me stomach pain. Everything is personal, some food is good for you, some not. I also lost a lot of weight, it is also normal by this HP (I lost 13 kg what is about 26 pounds). Omeprazol, pantonprazol and all the prazols. I have a friend who is a doctor and she told me that all this prazol works as follows: it vary the level of acid in your stomach. If it is low, it let make it, if it is high, it stops stomach to produce it. The problem is that these are strong medicines even if a lot of doctors suggests it. If you stop it after a period of getting it, it can cause high acid in stomach what makes problems again and you return to this medicine as well. She suggested me if I stop it, I should stop it slowly. In the cure with antibio I got 2 a day then one a day. She told me that I should get half a day for some days, then half every second day then leave it. If I feel acid, I should get not prazol but antiacido tablets (they are weaker than prazols)-they leave 30% of acid in stomach. But the best is if you eat white rice, cornflakes with water (not milk) and drink special tea for stomach (if you have no it where you live, also tea from chamomille is good). I would not get prazols even if some other doctors suggested me also to get it for a year! Gosh! No way! The second treatment is always stronger than the first, this is told by doctors as well. I had luck to eradict this with the first treatment. You need to eradict HP even if you need a second treatment. I don't know if doctors told you if you smoke it has lower chance with the treatment to eradicate HP with 20-30%! You must wait to heal and keep head up! Time and diet and no stress will helps you as well. I suggest you to get the second treatment to eradicate this HP (don't let time for it to work in your stomach), when you need to get antibiotics, you get prazol and probiotics then after 1-2 weeks of prazol without antibiotics leave it also and keep diet. It helps but need a long time perhaps months. And some countries offers this De-Nol with the treatment together especially against H.pylori. I get it since 4-5 days (I am over the treatment since 2 months) and really feel like 100% (since summer I had no such good feeling). I tried many stuff as well as broccoli capsules, papaya ferments and many others but it is the best. By the way doctors told me to get medicine against nerves for 1-2 weeks because stomach must be calm down (you can see your anxiety and palpitations can be caused by this). I wish you get better soon! I know who did not went over of this HP will never understand such pain, and suffer.

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 sandra18523

      I forget: i have a friend who could eradicate this HP only with the 3rd therapy and suffered a long time. It passed this HP and suffer and now she feels 100% (it passed some years). So the end is always bright if you don't give up but time, time, time.....sometimes I had no patience as well....

    • anna71424 anna71424 tamas92825

      I’m just wondering how you can eat normally I feel that I can’t yet living on soup broth I have no appetite and have also lost weight like you had an endoscopy last November they found h.plyori and erosive gastritis so I have been on Omeprazole for 6weeks just finished now so I’m waiting to be retested in two weeks but I still feel so awful like washed out no energy how long do you feel like that after the Omeprazole i keep thinking I have a virus aswell I don’t know but paracetamol is making me sick

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 anna71424

      I had the same as you: H.pylori and erosive gastritis. I would not say I already eat normally but much better and some stuff I still avoid (such as tomatoe and onion etc). I got also pantonprazol for about 6 weeks. No, it is normal, I had triple therapy at end of October and all the way felt like you November and sometime December. What helped me a lot: green tea or tea for stomach (we can buy at pharmacy) and move (walk a lot). It helps a lot. What was my daily menu: morning conrflakes with banana (made with water not by milk), then 1-2 hours later toast with butter and thin ham, then dinner white rice with chicken breast, evening I ate some salty biscuits (no sugar) and evening dark rice with chicken breast as well and before sleep a sweet apple without its skin. I would not say it is a very good menu but no problem at all and it gives no problem. I was consulted also with a professional dietethics what I can eat or what not. If I eat dark bread it gives pain yet. A lot of stuff is personal but some are generally must avoid. And what you MUST get: I get De-Nol tablets (4 a day) and since then I have no problem at all (it is a week cc). It has bismut-oxid content, it is not medicine but some helping stuff such as probiotics. The first one what really helped me. Even a week ago I felt discomfort in stomach a lot of time and especially on 30rd of December felt like s**t because I flew by plain what I hate and made acid in my stomach with few food. Then I started this tablets and everything passed. Try it and get it! It had no any side effects and it really helps. I tried everything before, teas, Chinese tea, broccoli capsules, papaya ferments and many other things but this really helps.

    • anna71424 anna71424 tamas92825

      I also have mild lower esophagitis with erosions I have got wait 2 weeks now to see if h.plyori has been eradicated. Mastic gum is good and I Matula Tea but made me feel sick and I took 3-4 mastic gum and came out in a rash over my face won’t be doing that again!! But I have just been living on bio yogurt and bananas.cabbage and brown rice broccoli and fish tuna salmon but for while was just on soup broth and im taking probiotics and pepzinc GI and DGL all from health food stores and multivitamins cod liver oil every day but at the moment I’m just using gaviscon to ease the acid while I wait for test results!

    • sheltie64 sheltie64 anna71424

      Hi there - i'm new to any discussion forum and didn't know how to make a general comment rather than reply to one person. 

      Since November 2016 I have suffered with heartburn and after several months of trying different foods, i attributed the heartburn to wheat so i cut that out.  in April 2017 it was so bad i went to GP who gave me Omeprozale for 28 days and she said that would cure it.  I had a bad time all summer, but was on holiday so took over the counter Ranitidine  to help for a few days a week.  i finally gave up and went to GP again in October.  she referred me for a gastroscopy which i got on 13th December 2017.  Results were ulcers, infected with H Pylori, 9confirmed with boipsy) Gastritis and multiple polyps. Biopsies were taken off one of the polyps too.  I was given triple therapy for 7 days 1000mg amoxicillin twice a day, Clarithromycen 500mg twice a day and 20mg Omeprazole twice a day, then dropping to once a day when antibiotics were finished.  they also gave me Maalox to drink after every meal. 

      Christmas came and went and i have just today finished the Omeprazoles and i feel bloated, with taching pain at top of stomach and disheartened, probably even more so after reading all your stories, but at the same time i need to know as much as i can so this has helped my understand a lot.  To date since 13th December, no medical person has contacted me to give me results of biopsies, so i'm hoping that no news is good news.  After the gastroscopy the surgeon came to speak to me and said that i would not need any follow up treatment or appointments. 

      I got a bad case of thrush and had to get the tablet for that and i ended up bubbling like a kid to the GP.  she said I was too anxious and gave me 14 days of Diazipam to help me sleep at night which has been difficult for the racing heart.  it's like  . .every moment i am 'aware' of my stomach and guts even though sometimes the pain is less.  Am I focussing too much on the negative side of this and perhaps this is actually causing my symptoms?

    • anna71424 anna71424 sheltie64

      No you are not alone I was crying at the doctors the other day as I’ve have been through h.plyori 7 days triple therapy and Omeprazole just finished them waiting for stool tests to see if it’s been eradicated it’s a tough time with anxiety the doctors just pass you a tissue and stare like with no sympathy but I guess it’s there job and to make matters worse no one understood what I was going through my husband especially the doctor said to me you are anxious and I said wouldn’t you be worried if the h. Plyori might not be eradicated waiting for test results. by the way on those Omeprazole did you have heart palpitations nausea and blurred vision? 

    • sheltie64 sheltie64 anna71424

      No Anna, I can't say I was nauseous, but heart racing at night (is this palpitations) and very blurred vision worse than normal.  when i say worse than normal, it is because I have a Cavernoma in left temporal lobe of brain and there are days when i can focus and days when I can't.  Cavernoma Alliance are currently investigation the link between gut and brain - lots of cavernoma sufferes also have H Pylori and gut problems

       

    • anna71424 anna71424 sheltie64

      Do you Omeprazole is really bad for you there was a report last July 2017 that ppis contribute to premature death I hate them I have been ok and off them since 2015 because the doctors put me on them and left me on

      Them not monitoring me just left me on them and I came off them myself and also I didn’t know you are not supposed to drink on them well I just carried on drinking my wine and had the spicy food if you these the drugs will not cure you because acid from the alcohol will interfere with the drug and spicy will irritate stomach lining the doctors do not tell you anything they just dish these out like pills please people come these drugs that are really bad for you I’ve completely changed my life style I ate healthy before but I’ve cut out lots of things and if I still have acid reflux I’m the future I will consider acid reflux surgery.

  • danny85540 danny85540 louise63558

    Hi all. I'm not sure if I can also post through this discussion which I came to by accident. I'm a Syrian male who is still living in Syria. I was diagnosed with H Pylori on 20th of December and was put on two Antibiotics (Amoxil 500 mg two tablets (1000 mg) morning after breakfast and two tablets after dinner, as well as Tavanic (500 mg) which is Levofloxacin after lunch for 14 days , as well as PPI om empty stomach 20 mg for 30 days. I am off the antibiotics for three days ago but still on PPI as others said here sometimes I feel OK sometimes i feel a slight feeling of nausea sometimes during the day. I also take one teaspoon of Manuka honey in the morning with grounded black seed. I feel discouraged and feel that i won't be 100% well again. Any advice? Do you follow a diet? Can you give me ideas. I eat cheese for breakfast, vegetables like Brocolli, carrots, brown rice, some days chicken breast grilled without oil.. Also no sugar no salt, green tea and Camomile tea .. Frankly, I started to feel bored any ideas to what you usually have for breakfast and dinner.

    lots of thanks for sharing your experience.

    Danny

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 danny85540

      Hi Danny,

      I eat boiled eggs for breakfast, crackers and a fruit: half banana or 1/2 cup of blueberries . I am having some aloe Vera juice (3 spoons) for the burning sensation, it seems it is working. I have chicken soup for lunch and gluten free bread and honey for snack. For dinner I have fish or chicken, potatoes and some veggie. The Dr. told me to follow a low fiber fodman diet. Broccoli produces lots of gas but I heard it is really good for bactetia! Yeah, I agree this is sometimes discouraging. Anxiety is what does not help!! It makes me shaky and weak! Good luck and hope we all feel better.

    • danny85540 danny85540 sandra18523

      Thanks Sandra for the ideas, I wish you too and all to recover quickly. Is eating eggs daily bad? And what about Gluten-free bread? I guess it is almost seven impossible to get it here in Syria not even before civil war. Is that a necessity  for fighting H Pylori? Do you consume yoghurt? Is it bad to consume dairy products?

      Thanks

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 danny85540

      Hi, I think if you had no other problems, gluten-free product is not necessary. Yoghurt for empty stomach makes acid, try to avoid it but after meals if does not hurt you can take, test it. You got therapy very few time ago, you need more time to recover. Keep diet. Avoid sugar and tomatoe, onion especially. Salt can be bad only for the injured stomach. 

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 tamas92825

      I agree with Tamas in regards to glutten free bread. I avoid yogurt because it is dairy but I will try it and see if it goes well in my stomach. I don't eat onions or garlic and drink tea at night. It seems exercising helps so I will start doing at least some minutes a day. Good luck with everything!

  • danny85540 danny85540 louise63558

    Thanks for the ideas. I read somewhere that Green tea is very helpful in fighting this bacteria, i consume yoghurt to add some probiotics to my gut to balance what antibiotics did. Will try to stop garlic for few days and see what goes on.

    i'm also interested with De-Nol might be the generic formula. Can you take it while on Antibiotics? And can you take it after? Would it affect the test and should be stopped a while before testing?

    thanks

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 danny85540

      Green tea is good BUT never drink for empty stomach because it mades a thin acid as well. Eat before some stuff. Yoghurt makes also acid, be aware, but it is personal, for me was bad. Garlic. You can taste your food such as for meat but generally avoid it with onion. It makes extremelly much acid. De-Nol contains bismut-oxid what helps the stomach inside and makes a filter to heal it and not hurts by acid. Yes, you can take while antibiotics. After also you can take. I think would effect the test because for me doctors told that test must be only after antibiotics with min 4 weeks, prazols 2 weeks and antiacid capsules 1-2 weeks. I would not get it this De-Nol before test. Doctors told me that they prescribe triple therapy with probiotics and De-nol together. I finished 2 months ago the therapy I am over the test (freed from HP) and now get only this De-Nol (4 times a day for a month). Hope it helps for long time because you can take only for 2 months. It really made a miracle with me.

    • anna71424 anna71424 tamas92825

      Can’t find that DE-NOL it’s been discontinued and you have to order it from Europe or China and if you take it for a long time can cause brain damage I read don’t know enough about it but in England it’s been discontinued 

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 anna71424

      Anyway talk to your doctor and he/she can describe you the same content medicine what you got there. De-Nol has a manufacturer in Netherlands (Astellas Pharma BV), and their UK distributor has the same name, perhaps you can contact them. Yes, as side effect it can be damage temporary on central neurological system in brain thus it is prohibited to take for a long time (more than 2 months). Doctors told me to take for a month, it is enough, we will see if it helps. In the last 10 days it helped me a lot and hope my stomach can heal in this period.  

    • sheltie64 sheltie64 anna71424

      Hi again

      I've been to a homeopathic practitioner who did loads of strange kind of stuff with a swinging pendulum and she diagnosed me as having an overgrowth of Candida my digestive tract  She discovered that my body at the moment will not tolerate wheat, yeast, sugar, oranges, mushrooms, chocolate and fish.  Fish does not bother me as i never eat it anyway - i would be physically sick!  she has instructed me to go on a strict diet eating none at all of the above foods. She also gave me BIO82 liquid to take10 drops twice a day for 7 days and then 5 drops for 7 days.  On day 10 she told me to take probio7 capsules to repopulate my gut with good bacteria which were killed off with the triple therapy antibiotics

      Two days into diet and taking drops and i would say I am 80% improved in my symptoms (pain in stomach and gut and also the feeling of anxiety wondering if the treatment has worked or not.   It's like I've suddenly forgotten about my stomach, whereas i seemed to dwell on it every moment of every day since completing the antibiotics.  I researched the BIO82 drops as I'm a bit of a skeptic with this kind of thing, but here is what i found out - below.  i also feel in charge of my body now and much much cheerier - even started writing music again, which i've not been able to do in months - one happy chappy so far!!

      Hope this may be of some help to you all xx

      Gastric ulcers

      Candida organisms colonize ulcers, particularly when the ulcers are large or perforated (Table 1). In several studies, Candida organisms were cultured from gastric biopsies, brush samples of mucosa or peritoneal fluid. Colonization was observed more frequently in older patients [35,36] and in patients with hypoacidity [36]. In addition, the rate of decrease in ulcer diameter, an indication of ulcer healing, was slower in patients whose stomachs were significantly colonized by Candida in comparison to patients who were not [37]. These studies of UC patients and gastric ulcer patients show that significant colonization with Candida is associated with more severe disease.

      To summarize, higher level colonization by Candida was associated with several diseases of the GI tract. Although some of the studies are small and lack sufficient numbers of controls, the results of several studies reinforce each other and support the overall conclusion.

    • anna71424 anna71424 sheltie64

      Hello the thing is I take pepzinc GI and probiotics 16 strain also I take DGL but because I have erosive esophagitis the peppermint in the DGL will irritate the osephagus so I don’t take that now but I’ve lost a stone through having h.plyori I’m depressed and I have this constant chest pain and anxiety throughout and when I go out I have panic attacks and even at night aswell which can be scary I wake up feeling sick like I’m dizzy and feeling like I’m going to die do you know what that can be? Waiting to be tested for eradication next week

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 anna71424

      I am sorry Anna you are going through this. I completely understand what you are feeling. Everybody tells me it is in my mind and that our mind is so strong we can create our own reality. It is difficult for me to accept that and it even put more pressure and anxiety on me because I constantly think about how I can overcome this myself. Anyways, I have been following advises such us a better diet, small meals, manuka honey, acupuncture, going for short walks, breathing techniques. Is all this helping? I don't know but we have to keep trying. Good luck and I really hope we feel better soon.

    • sheltie64 sheltie64 anna71424

      So sorry that you're feeling so bad Anna.  i was too until the stuff i mentioned above.  I have several weeks to go yet before i can be tested to see the the H Pylori has been eliminated or not too and it is the waiting that is the worst.  i lost a stone in November, purely because i had no appetite and whatever i eat hurt so much.  Yy appetite has returned a but but i still prefer to eat little and often.  ask you doc for some diazepam at night to tide you over for a week or so - it will help.  it got this when a completely broke down at my doc appt and she was so supportive and offered me two weeks supply to take at my own discretion.  i have not used them all yet but they are there for a bit longer if i need them.  Really hope things improve for you soon.  Can i now ask what might seem a irrelevant question - do you have any lesions or Cavernoma's in your brain or do you suffer from Epliepsy?  As an American study has found out - cavernoma's are created by a stomach bug crossing the blood brain barrier and i think that's what happened to me as the Cav was only discovered 7 years ago after a lifetime of gut problems

    • anna71424 anna71424 sandra18523

      Thank you. I have been drinking matula tea every day twice a day do feel a bit better in myself but still having nightmares awful! Still have the clicking joints and pain in my wrists and arms but will do the stool test on Thursday to see if eradicated🙏🏻

    • hani3174 hani3174 anna71424

      Hi, I have test on Saturday after the second round of treatment. Im worried as I'm still feeling bad and thing are not progressing. I dont don't know what to do if the result will be positive, I really can't take antibiotics again. I hope it will be eradicated. Im suffering since October. Today was the first day in my new job and I'm not having that excitement I'm jist thinking when will I be back to my normal life.

    • sandra18523 sandra18523 hani3174

      Hani,

      I really hope you erradicated the Pylori this time. Have you changed your diet? It has helped me a little because eating fat things, meat and big meals is not good for me. First treatment did not erradicate the H pylori and I tried the Mastic gum but it caused more dizziness. I think I am going to stop it. I will wait until I have a break to try the second treatment. I know everybody says: be strong, you can make it, give it time to heal but when you have responsibilities it is hard to keep up. What I know is that keeping my mind busy helps and that is what working does. I wish you the best and crossing fingers you erradicated this awful bacteria.

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 hani3174

      Keep on! I was suffering months from this crazy bacteria, from August and only now in January feel better. Take care of your diet, walk a lot, drink tea and avoid stress. With passing of time it will be better!

    • tamas92825 tamas92825 anna71424

      Write here the result of eradiction. Hope it is over also for you. I was talking to doctor and she told me that if I have no problems I can leave De-nol after 2 weeks. This year I had no any problems yet and I started to eat normally (small pizza, fat duck) even if drinks with gas or alcohol did not try. I tried also avoid stress but looks I loose my job soon, but hope stomach problems will not return. Perhaps you could ask your doctor something similar as this De-nol was for me, it really helped and bring back to life. Wish you the best for the test!

    • anna71424 anna71424 hani3174

      I was taking mastic gum 3-4 came out in a rash so if I take it again I think it will just be the once a day! I’m not taking antibiotics again if not it addicted I will take natural supplements and eat lots of cabbage and broccoli 🥦 the bacteria hates these veg coconut oil ect I even drink the water that I’ve cooked the broccoli in anything to kill this paracite!

    • hani3174 hani3174 sandra18523

      Thanks Sandra, yes I'm trying to eat the good food for this case also I stopped all caffeine drinks and I quit smoking also.

      Yes I understand and I'm also trying to keep my mind busy it helps also. 

       

    • hani3174 hani3174 tamas92825

      Thanks Tamas, means that it might be eradicated but still feel the same symptoms? if yes this makes me feel good at least keep optimistic that the result might be negative. 

      What tea? you mean green tea? 

       

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