Stressing a lot about blood pressure, different opinions from doctors. Any similar experiences?

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So a little back story, I am 21 years old male who has been regularly done weightlifting for the past 5 years with a one year break because of university. I have been to heart ultrasound, ECG, kidney ultrasound, blood test, and everywhere they told me that i am fine, and i have no problem doing physical excersise, so conclusion, i dont have hard physical symptoms.

However, i have been having problems with my blood pressure. 3 years ago they did a 24-hour measuring, and the midday average came out 150/90 with once above 170 , but at night it was often below 110/70, so they put me on low dose ACE inhibitor. It didnt seem to have much effect so i dropped it and didnt measure my blood pressure for a year or so due to some personal issues. Around 1 year ago I went to a cardiologist who did a stress test (had to ride the bike) and found my bp to pike at 190/90, but told me as long as at home i measure normal readings i shouldnt take medicine. So I'm attaching a picture of a diagram of the readings i've been having for the past 2 months. They seem fine i know, but when i go to the doctors, its always around 150/90, and one month ago i had tonsillectomy and i was very nervous beforehand, and they measured 197/95 ( after 20 min it went down to 145/90 ) but there they told me that i should take it seriously.

Sorry for long story, i have been to multiple doctors who had different opinions, one said that i should take medicine to prevent my vessels from damaging, others said i am fine its just white coat and stress. I have been obsessing over it and its starting to effect my personal life too, so i was wondering if someone with experience would share theirs with me.

 

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    Life experience is little more than the sense data flow of all that we can see, hear, smell, taste, feel & think.

    The human condition, personality, identity or ego is simply the habituated manner in which we focus on one incoming data flow source, to the obfuscation of the others.

    Stress reduction, balance, equanimity or enlightenment is just the transcendence of our habituated data manipulations that then allows all life's incoming data an expression that is no longer limited by our own prejudices.

    This is all a preamble to say that concentration, can either be an aid to stress reduction if it fosters a present awareness of all ones data streams

    or

    it can be a producer stress if deliberately excludes one source of sense data info over another.

    Most folks send most of their time focusing on their thoughts to the exclusion of all the other available life experiences. Just countering that particular sense monopoly with an intentional and hopefully continuous observation of the feeling of ever breath you take, can go a long way towards learning how to meditate where ever you find yourself.  Your thoughts do not need to be squashed or viewed in an adversarial manner. All you are doing is reminding your thought processes that it is not the only player on life's stage.

     

     

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      That was a very interesting perception of meditation and life in general. I have not heard this view before but it does interest me. I just wonder how can one reach the "transcendence of our manipulated data manipulations" . What you have described sounds like an excellent way of reducing daily stress in life, but i can only approve it in theory. I find it hard to imagine, how you could apply these principles in the practice. I bet that its an ongoing process and it does not work from one moment to another, but through longer practicing and developing one's self , would you have any advice on starting it?

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    Hey Saddoge

    Well you seem to have a pretty intuitive grasp of a tricky subject..

    If you want to try.... you could .....

    Observe the very next breath you take.

    Keep some level of attention on observing the physical feel of that breath and then the next and then the next. 

    When ever you find that your thoughts have distracted you away from continuing to participate in this particular breath observation process, just immediately restart the observation with the next coming breath.

    This is not about thinking about breathing but is a witnessing of the actual physical feel of it.

    Try to keep just enough attention on the physical observation of your breathing to maintain the momentum of that observing process but not so much attention as to obscure any of your other sense data inputs.

    This is also not meant to limit your own thought processes but to just remind those thought processes of all the alternative sense inputs that are present but being actively ignored.

    This will allow your thinking processes to start seeing the idiocy of their mental dictatorship stance, some of the suffering that has resulted from it and accept more of a collegial management style in concert with the other sense sources.

    You can do this practice a little bit or you can do it full time. It's totally up to what ever level of priority you wish to give it in your life.

    I wish you well.

     

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