Success with venlafaxine withdrawal

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Hi guys,

After 6 long years on venlafaxine, I have finally gotten off the drug. I don't know if this will be of any use to anyone, but I wanted to share some hopeful words and tips for anyone trying to come off of this nasty medication. I should clarify, however, that I am not angry for having been put on this medication, as I am sure it saved my life. That being said, 6 years, 225mg/day and an additional 20kg later (!!! just awful !!!) I am so glad to be Effexor free.

The details:

I was taking Effexor XR and had been on my maximum dose for 3.5 years. Prior to that I was on 150mg for about 2 years. I took 3 x 75mg capsules every morning as a once a day dose. Taking three tablets was initially to save money (for some reason it was cheaper here in Australia to do it that way) but it ended up having the extra bonus of making withdrawal easier.

What worked for me may not work for everyone, but this is the approach my GP and I came up with. Most was my own plan, based on what I found worked, but my GP gave me the initial "tablet dropping" idea and trusted me to take it slowly, listen to my body and see her as needed. It worked very, very well, with minimal side effects. If it helps even one of you it will be worth having posted this.

First things first:

1. Make sure you are taking care of yourself and are in a good place emotionally before even contemplating withdrawal.

2. You are going to need supportive people around you- I don't know if I could have done it without my boyfriend. Tell your family/friends AND DOCTOR what you are doing. This is crucial. You may also want to tell someone you trust at work what is going on, so they know why you may seem a little dazed every so often.

3. Make sure you are eating really well. I switched to a vegan diet about half way through and, although this is not for everyone, this made withdrawal so much easier. I am sure the huge amounts of vegetables made a difference. I especially noticed that days when I ate lots of sea vegetables I coped best with symptoms, so consider working them into your normal diet.

4. Take a multivitamin and drink lots of water. At least 2 litres a day. This will help minimise the horrible nausea you will probably experience.

5. Drink ginger tea/use ginger. This is also for the nausea and I found it was essential in the days after stopping completely. It really does help. I also wondered if some people might find a prescription for maxalon or stemetil helpful, as the nausea and dizziness was the worst for me.

6. Get lots of sleep. I mean heaps of it. Anyone who has withdrawn from this med (or even skipped a dose!) knows how tired you will get.

Now the tablet reduction:

I started by reducing my total weekly dose by 1 tablet per week (taking 2 tabs one day and 3 every other day) for a few weeks. This sounds like nothing, but even this produced quite bad side effects at first (teariness, exhaustion, dizziness and nausea). Only when I was comfortable (ie no side effects) with this dose regimen did I move on.

Then, I took 2 tabs instead of 3 on two days a week for a few weeks until I was comfortable (making sure to space the 2 tablet days out, eg Sat and Wed). Then I got into the habit of taking tablets as follows. I made sure to plan/write all of this down on our calender beforehand, to use as a guide and make sure I didn't mess it up:

3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 2 etc for about 3 to 4 weeks

Then:

3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 2, 2 etc for about another 3 weeks to month.

Then:

3, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, etc for about a month. Then when I got to 2 tablets (150mg) a day on every day of the week I rested on that for quite a while (mostly as I was nervous about going too fast). Then, I did a pretty much similar thing to get down to one tablet a day. Then the same to get to 37.5 mg. I actually stopped pretty abruptly from the 37.5 mg stage, as I felt entirely ready. After that I had about 5 days of feeling pretty crappy, with symptoms as above, then I started getting better. Day 3 with no drugs was the worst for me.

So, in the end, it took me about 8 months to go from 225 to nothing. I know that seems an eternity, but I think that is why I coped so well. Five days after dropping from 37.5mg to nothing, I had almost no symptoms. Seven days later I had none. Even if you take nothing else from this, please know that it is possible to get off of this nasty drug BUT you must be careful, listen to your body, do it with support from those around you and in communication with your GP.

Good luck to all of you

xx

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  • Posted

    I DO wish you VERY good luck! Take good care, I think it's a tough row to hoe, but if you persevere, you will win.

    • Posted

      Hi LIz, 

      I had to restart at  alow dose as withdrawal symptoms were bad, I had to restart at a low dose(18.75 mg ) by splitting the 37.5 mg modified release tablet althoigh not supposed to split it but its helping me with the symptoms, today is day 3 on the tiny dose, I am planning to go like this for few month before another attempt ....

    • Posted

      the 18.75 seems to help, no mre diziness, a bit of nausea , some anxiety but bearable, this is my third day and i am stable so far, will see how it goes....

      how much are you on??

    • Posted

      Itook my last dose two months ago, May 22, and have been on zero mgs since then. A lot of ups and downs, physically and mentally. Can't say I've been coping all that well.

    • Posted

      are you in any other meds??, I dont know what is the effect of the small dose on the mood but it indeed helped ith the withdrawal symptoms, if yo have been off for two month it seems you have done well so far , the question is , do u need medical therapy or CBT would help?? whay dont you see your GP and try non chemical therapy??
  • Posted

    Hi everyone

    I need some advice or similar experiences. 

    I got down to 75mg then took out one bead every day for 3 weeks. Now taken two beads out every day for the past few days. During this time I have experienced not wanting to be in large stores with bright lighting or noise. The sound of a baby crying makes me tense. But to top it off I have completely lost it at home with my husband. Im like a nutcase. But just for that moment. I drove to a park recently to find the peace I crave and fell asleep in my car for two hours. 

    Am I losing it and should I persevere? X

     

    • Posted

      Hi Sara. You might be tapering off a bit too quickly. I went down by 4 beads (2 mgs) a week, from 137.5mgs. I took my last dose in late May and I am still having issues -- stomach upset, weepy, depressed -- not every day but enough to make me miserable! I've been told it could take 6 months before I start feeling well again. You might want to go back to 75 mgs and taper off by 2 beads a week -- just a thought. All the very best -- keep me posted on how you are doing.

    • Posted

      I had a compounding pharmacist make up some 2-mg capsules. I just checked again, and they have 8 beads in them. So four beads is actually one mg. Hope that helps.
    • Posted

      Ok I understand

      So one capsule of 75mg has 6 beads each containing 12.5mg. So in fact I've reduced to 50mg now!

      Whoah maybe I've gone too quick !!

      Thanks Elizabeth x

  • Posted

    Sorry to use your post to respond to but I could not find out how to just post something any other way. So, if someone can tell me how I would be really greatful.

    I found this site quite by chance and the symptoms I have been experiencing now make compete sense. Thank you to you all for the info and advice and the encouragement.

    I have followed a similar program to yourself and everything was going really well. I had clarity of thought, more energy and just felt great. The doc was ok but I don't think really uderstood the withdrawal stuff. I was down to one a week over a couple of months and then everything went pearshaped - no energy, horrid thoughts, poor sleep quality, muscle tension, terribly sweats, cold/flu symptoms panic attacks,etc. Never had any of this before I was put onto the drug: It wass  for 'reactive depression' but no-one mentioned anything about side-effects/withdrawal issues, etc. Everytime I said I wanted to comeoff the doc was less than enthusiatic - never seemed to be a good time, yet the situation I reacted to passed 3 years ago.

    In order to get to work and try and live a normal life I had to capitualate and am now back to taking one every three days. I keep a record and try to spin it out as long as I can but am miserable. Am listening to my body Doc seems to think this is OK - I don't! Am going to try the Bendryl suggestion to see if that will help.

    Really appreciate your advice oz82, especially as back to the drawing board.

    Good luck to you and thanks for the info - will start the road again bit at least a little further along it this time.

    Keep smiling

    smile

     

  • Posted

    Have I successfully stopped or should I be worried...?

    Your post gave me so much in inspiration to believe that it is possible to taper off effexor.  My depression started 6 years ago with post-partum.  I believe that my doctor saved my life, but going through the withdraw... I was really apprehensive. When this all started I was actuallt on Lexapro.  But just about 2 years ago the Lexapro just stopped working.  So I switched to Effexor.  I was taking 3 of the xr capsuls a day.  

    2 months ago I started to taper off like this:

    Week 1:  3,2,3,2,3,2,3

    Week 2:  2,2,3,2,2,3,2

    Week 3:  2,2,2,2,2,2,2

    Week 4:  2,1,2,1,2,1,2

    Week 5:  1,1,2,1,1,2,1

    Week 6:  1,1,1,1,1,1,1

    I know, too fast.  I would say that week 3 was the worst.  The headaches were awful.  Just when I thought I should slow down to reduce the headaches, they went away.  Week 6 was emotional... I was very irritable (lots of yelling and sarcasm - my poor family!) and it really didn't take much to make me cry (like a commercial about taking care of the elderly brought on tears!)  When it was time for week 7 there was a problem with my insurance and I had actually gone without the meds for three days before they could get it fixed.  At that point I simply did not fill the rx.  It has now been 8 days with no meds.  Am I done?  Can it be?  I feel like the luckiest girl on the planet.  Or the dumbest.  The irritability is getting less and less each day, I'm always goong to be one of those girls crying at the sappy commercials, and the headaches never came back.  I still do have the zappy sensation thing but it doesn't hurt, it's just weird.  I use to get them whenever I missed a dose and back then I had no idea what it was.  My next appointment with my doctor is in one month and I would really love to walk out of there without an rx for the first time in 6 years.  But am I kidding myself?  Going for 8 days without a single pill... sounds too good to be true.

    • Posted

      This is great news.smile You have a real strength of character to be able to go through all the yucky stuff and come out the other end on one pill every 8 days. Good luck with the doc, will be keeping everything crossed though am sure you won't need it.

    • Posted

      Thank you. I am very lucky to have such supportive friends and family. And this website is such a wealth of information and kindness.
    • Posted

      I just thought I would post a quick update.  I am completely med free, the last time I took effexor was July 17.  I still have my next rx on file in case I need it, but 15 days without it so far.  Headaches are gone, brain zaps are becoming less and less frequent, irritability is still pretty bad.  So far my family would rather help me work through the irritability and stay off the medication.

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