Swelling post distal radius fracture
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I had plate and screws inserted after distal radius fracture and hairline ulna fracture which displaced after manipulation in A+E just over 6 weeks ago. Cast removed at 4 weeks to start early mobilisation. Intensive physio started on Friday. I have been asked to ice prior to each physio session at home, for example, every 3 hours. My question is I have had wrist, hand and fingers swelling which does not and has not receded even after hanging it up in the air 24/7. On multiple pillows at night. And have tried cold water for 3 mins then warm water for 3 mins alternate.
Anyone else have this and if so any techniques not tried to help this or how long can I expect to have this swelling. My fingers are like sausages especially my thumb and baby finger.
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pauldh vicky87059
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I decided to go private and saw a specialist hand and arm surgeon who said I might have RDS but if I saw a private physio, she would make a custom splint and help to try to ensure that RDS doesn’t take hold.
I can now report 7months post 2nd fracture, that not only was a custom splint a vital part of the initial healing stage but seeing a specialist hand physio who has worked with me for the last 7 months, I have my right hand working 90% again with almost full movement of my fingers and grip, rotation is about 75% recovered but my wrist does have a dull ache and I cannot bend it properly - forward and backwards probably 45 degrees so far, so that is pretty good. I started driving after 5 months.
In respect of RDS, that never took hold and with proper physio, it disappeared quickly, however I do experience some discomfort occasionally and find that rubbing the skin seems to deal with it. When I came out of the custom splint, instead of having the horrible NHS itchy one, I was given a much softer neoprene one which did not irritate my skin (by the private physio).
Im told that it will take another 4 or 5 months to heal fully but the bending of the wrist might improve further with more physiotherapist sessions so intend to continue those every 2 or 3 weeks for the time being.
I hope that this feedback is useful.
patricia41709 vicky87059
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pauldh vicky87059
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Following on from my earlier posts on this subject, I too have discovered that breaking both the Ulnar and Radius is extremely common but what is difficult to find is information on what to expect, how long i should take to heal and when, if ever, your wrist will be normal again.
As mentioned, I had my Radius fixed by plate in August last year after a serious fall and 2 days out of plaster, the hospital physio gave me exercises which involved pulling my wrist upwards and pressing downwards - that exercise managed to refracture my Ulnar once again, so I am now 8 months since the last fracture (rather than 10 from the original accident and operation).
It is very important to have a decent, well fitting splint - I managed to get a custom splint made after the second fracture as I went privately to a physio who specialises in arms and wrist fractures. Having that made a world of difference and when I was finally out of that, she let me have a very soft but supportive splint which helped keep my wrist supported and avoid further damage.
As mentioned, the recovery takes many months - at 8 months I have full use of all my fingers however my second finger (adjacent to my thumb) is ever so slightly bent - hasn't completely straightened, but in every other respect, my hand now works normally (including grip and feeling). The swelling goes first, then the numbness reduces very slowly (I still get some numbness but not very much or often), the one issue I am still working on but has improved, is rotation and bending of the wrist - I'm about 75% OK with that now but it's different for everyone. The more you exercise the better chance of recovery but in all honesty, you need to be careful not to overdo it and be very patient. I can now drive, I can now use a knife and spoon, I find writing almost OK but it feels very stiff and my wrist aches after a few words - I think that too is slowly improving and my writing is back to what it was (I am right-handed and broke my right arm) - the saving grace is that I use a keyboard and have no problems whatsoever with that.
In summing up, be patient as this takes quite a time to heal. If you can get a customised splint then do so - it made a HUGE difference, as has the physio - she's been amazing, and continues to be.
vanessa2018 pauldh
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I’m glad to hear that you are making progress and find your story reassuring. I agree with you about the lack of information about healing and what to expect, and what is normal whilst healing.
My cast was removed about a month ago following a fracture to my right radius and have been very concerned about my symptoms following the cast removal. I was fortunate not to have surgery - my bone was manipulated back into place instead. My wrist is still very stiff and weak and that palm of my hand has a weird rough sensation when I touch things and small patches on the back of my hand tingle - especially the back if my thumb. My orthopaedic doctor didn’t seem to concerned at my last appointment two weeks ago but I find these symptoms very annoying and alarming but understand from you post that these symptoms along with the swelling have taken a long time to subside for you! I just need some reassurance that what a am experiencing is normal!
My first physio appointment at the hospital is tomorrow so I shall relay my concerns to the physiotherapist and hopefully get some reassurance! I would like a timescale as to how long it will take me to get a full range of movement but understand that everyone is different. At least I can now tie my shoe laces which I could not do in the beginning and also tie my hair back - small steps!
I am not yet driving which I find very isolating as I am quite independent and hate having to rely on other people.
Keep us updated on your progress - I find it comforting to hear about other people’s experiences and don’t feel as if I am going through this alone!
pauldh vanessa2018
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Your experience is relatively normal and like you, I kept worrying if what I was going through was normal and what I could expect - and when.
A few things I found that helped:
Stress balls - the help build initial strength in the fingers.
Stretching my fingers - pressing them in towards my palm.
Rubbing the skin if i feels tingly or irritates - also rubbing in something like Neutrogena hand cream to keep it moisturised
As things progressed, I bought a few weights - 0.5kg; 1kg; 1.5kg then 2kg - be very careful how you use these and only do what you're told is safe. If you feel any pain, stop immediately.
The tingling and numbness gradually started to fade after about 3 months - I was told it can take up to 12 months for the wrist/hand to feel normal - on reflection, I think that was good advice but I know it's different for everyone and also that age makes a considerable difference too.
All the very best!
vanessa2018 pauldh
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I have been to my first physio appointment today and found it quite reassuring- apparently my range of movement is quite good after being one month out of the cast even though I don’t feel it is!
I was given a few excercises to do 3-4 times a day which includes squeezing on a stress ball - I have just tried to do this and found it very difficult but I will persevere.
Like you said, I was told that the numbness should disappear gradually but may take time - that is the symptom that is worrying me the most as I cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel yet.
I have found that my fingers are very stiff in the mornings with increased swelling - is this normal as I feel I am going back to square one with them every morning!? I find that I have to try and make a fist a few times just to get them moving again!
I would value any further advice and if anything worked for you to reduce swelling - thank you!
pauldh vanessa2018
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It's perfectly normal to have morning stiffness, I still have it after eight months but it's now much less than it was. Patience is very important but you must exercise regularly - bit by bit you'll see small but gradual improvement. I found that as I became more confident, I tried pushing it too much sometimes, and a few times, had small setbacks, but I now find that I'm getting to the point where my wrist is starting to get back to being 'relatively' normal.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect 100% recovery but considering the damage done with my accident, I am very happy with progress.
As I've said, be patient and careful, but exercise regularly.
vanessa2018 pauldh
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I still have physio appointments - my next one is in two weeks. My movement has improved and have progressed on to strengthening exercises with a resistance band but am finding this a bit difficult as I am not yet able to make a full fist.
I was told by the consultant in fracture clinic to give them a ring if I have any problems but am concerned that I have been discharged too early. They must know best so I may wait a few weeks and if symptoms do not diminish I may contact them then - do you think this is a good idea?
pauldh vicky87059
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Didn't need to keep seeing the consultant - the physio kept seeing me for months and she knew if there were any issues and dealt with them. The thing to be careful with is hitting or falling on the fracture - other than that, the aches and numbness are quite normal but that's just my experience and if you have any concerns, you can always call the consultant or visit A&E and they'll check it out for you.
vanessa2018 pauldh
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How are you?
pauldh vicky87059
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I'm now approaching 9 months post fractures and surgery and my numbness is almost non existent but because my fractures were at the junction of my arm and wrist, I am struggling to get full movement in my wrist - I have about 60% back but my physio says I should get 80% or more. The wrist still feels very stiff when bending backwards or forward and doesn't seem to want to allow me to bend 90 degrees (as my left hand) - more like 60 degrees now. My hand has full functionality including grip and strength is very good but my fingers still ache if I bend them and pull tight - that might be the ongoing healing process, but I am relieved to be able to use the hand and carry heavy shopping items.
Would you believe my luck - I'm not a golfer but have developed Golfers Elbow in my left arm - it's not funny and despite having a steroid injection which was incredibly painful, it didn't work! Now looking for options to deal with that!!
Take good care and be patient with your recovery - it's a slow process.
vanessa2018 pauldh
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I was concerned about the numb feeling in my wrist following my discharge from fracture clinic so I saw my GP last week who said that most likely my soft tissue is inflamed thus causing pressure on the nerves in my wrist - the soft tissue takes a lot longer than the bone to heal and then nerve healing takes longer still!
I have since seen my physiotherapist who has said that my movement is at 80% which is encouraging as I hope to return to work in September - I type a lot so I guess I will have to practice that as well as my fingers are not moving as quick as my other hand. I am able to make a tighter fist (not so much first thing in the morning) and my strength is improving following exercising with a resistance band but I do find that moving my wrist with my fist clenched agrivates the nerves and causes a tingling feeling but physio said that this is only the nerves trying to send a signal and should improve over time but may not fully - only time will tell!
As you have said, patience is needed, and I really should be grateful that it was not a lot worse!
Best wishes and take care,
Vanessa.
pauldh vanessa2018
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Hi Vanessa
It's good to hear from you and to know you're making good progress.
The numbness will eventually subside but aches will continue because even after 9 months post fracture, I find I have to stretch and rotate my wrist and fingers often.
Patience is the key here - we will all heal at a different rate but I think we have to accept that we will not be 100% after a fracture however, we learn to compensate and life does return to almost normal.
My physio says that in a few more months time, I should get to the point where I won't even notice my fracture and my hand/wrist should feel normal. It's almost there now - I can write, drive and carry heavy items too, BUT flexibility of my wrist is only about 60% of what it was and I find I rotate from my elbow more to compensate.
Take good care!
vanessa2018 pauldh
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I’m glad that your making progress and hopefully in a few months things will feel more normal - I find that I am constantly thinking about my wrist as it still feels weird and I have to make a conscious effort to use it as my left hand has been compensating for my right!
I have been into work a few times just to see how everything is and I tried to type on the keyboard but fingers are very slow but my physio said to keep practising and this should improve!
My shoulder is now hurting but have been given exercises to do with a resistance band so hopefully it shouldn’t get any worse!
My next physio appointment is in two weeks so I will keep you updated - take care!
Pipcas vicky87059
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I’m so glad I stumbled across this thread. On June 17th I fractured my distal radius. I broke the rim socket, in to the socket, down the middle of the bone and to the outer edge. A week after A&E when it was checked the entire fracture had collapsed and I had to have surgery which took all afternoon. I’d been walking around for a whole week with displaced bones - it was agony. The surgeon told me he didn’t know what he could do with it the break as it was so bad or even if he’d get a plate on and whether I’d have much movement again. I felt sick to the stomach. I live on my own and have 2 dogs so I didnt know what I would do. He got the plate, 4 screws and a pin on about 4 weeks ago. Hurrah!! But I was so worried because it is very swollen and I have so little mobility. I was scared to death and this was my lot for good.
Reading this I’m doing great! What a weight off my mind.
Thanks for posting this!!
pauldh Pipcas
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Until you have a serious fracture you have no idea how painful and disruptive they are - you're simply unaware of the consequence and what to expect.
Whilst you've had an operation to help fix the bones and put them back in place, the healing process is very slow and can be extremely frustrating - and painful too if you overdo things.
Be patient, exercise within the limits of what you are comfortable with, expect to have aches and pains for months but bit by bit, you'll get mobility back - perhaps not as it was prior to the accident, but you will improve.
I'm 9 months post fracture yet I still cannot bend my wrist completely but have recovered almost full flexibility in my fingers, grip and strength - and can drive normally (I was unable to drive for over 5 months).
Pipcas pauldh
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At least reading all of these comments I know I’m not lagging behind.
pauldh Pipcas
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OMG - be very careful.
Coming out of a cast is just the beginning - your muscles will have shrunk and you'll be amazed how little strength you have after that is removed - it takes months to recover and you'll need lots of patience. You'll probably experience soreness, numbness, difficulty lifting things - etc, etc. It will seem like you'll never recover but bit by bit, you will. Perhaps not 100% but be patient and extremely careful - don't overdo it!!
vanessa2018 Pipcas
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From my experience everything is taking ages to get back to feeling normal and only now have I come to accept that fact. Since having physiotherapy following my cast removal I now have 80% range of movement and strength slowly returning but still too afraid to pick up a kettle! I am still experiencing swelling and numbness but hopefully this will subside with time!
Wishing you a speedy recovery and if you have any queries just post them on here and I will reply - take care!
Pipcas pauldh
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Pipcas vanessa2018
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80% sounds amazing.... it’s so good to hear that it can improve to that extent. And gives me hope. I know what you mean about being scared to pick things up. I’m the same. I had a nightmare the
other night that the plate snapped and poked out of my wrist.
It’s going to take months isn’t it. Not weeks.
pauldh Pipcas
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It's going to take a long time - be prepared to be very frustrated, worried that it will never heal, be concerned about the swelling and that every day when you wake up your hand is stiff - this is all normal and even at 9 months post fracture, I still have aches and pains but the numbness has gone, most mornings my hand feels relatively normal but my wrist still isn't right - it feels tight and I cannot bend it more than about 60% of what it used to do. I also find that holding a pen isn't easy - I can write but my wrist aches.
Simple things like holding a knife and fork - again, they take a while - brushing teeth - you name it, you have to find other ways, but gradually you'll find you can do almost everything as you used to.
I am almost back to full strength in my arm and grip but I'm still very careful and conscious not to overdo things. Take your time and be patient!
Guest pauldh
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Thank you for sharing. I am definitely at the discouraging stage. My surgery with plate & screws in my radius was on June 8 and after three weeks of therapy on my wrist, I found out last week that I also had a hairline fracture in the ulna which has slowed down the therapy on my wrist and I am currently only working on my hand and fingers. I still cannot close my fingers. My hand & fingers swell all the time. Sometimes it feels like I am being squeezed really tight around my wrist. Ugh! Frustrating! But it is good to hear that others are experiencing the same symptoms and are recovering, even though it seems it’s a very long recovery!
pauldh Guest
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It is perfectly normal what you're experiencing - very frustrating and very slow to recover!
You will improve bit by bit = things you can't do now, one day you'll be able to - it WILL happen in time but do not force it otherwise you'll do more damage!
Take good care.
vanessa2018 Guest
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My fingers, knuckles and wrist are still swollen 10 weeks after my cast was removed and I also feel as if I have a band tightening around my wrist sometimes and also numbness inside this - my physio said that this could be due to soft tisssue inflammation pressing on my nerves and that soft tissue injury takes a lot longer than a broken bone to heal and nerves take even longer - great!
As pauldh says - be careful, take it easy for a while and hopefully you’ll see improvements daily, if not weekly - take care!
vanessa2018 Pipcas
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I’m plodding along with physio but have now developed shoulder problems so keep your arm moving if you can. It’s frustrating that one problem leads to another but it’s not the case for everyone!
One good thing for me is that I am now driving again as I felt so isolated at home in the beginning. I used to wake up in the morning dreading getting out of bed facing another day with an incapacitated arm but this feeling has slowly eased as I am making progress but I still worry about every little symptom that I have but the people on this forum have been great for putting my mind at ease as I don’t feel so alone with worries!
Take it easy and things will slowly start to improve for you I’m sure!
Paul_M10s Pipcas
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I’ve read quite a lot on here about things taking time and letting heal etc. I suppose age makes a difference and I was 38 when I shattered my distal radius cycling,it was the worst break A&E had seen. I was informed by the consultant that I would have permanent limited stiff movement and 12 months before I could cycle again. My surgeon was more optimistic and thought 6 months. I am now sporting a titanium plate with 10 screws and my wrist feels 99% to 100% normal , flexation is about 99% and more than a lot of people who haven’t suffered a break. On my first physio session the physio grasped my wrist and forced it to move the pain was immense but good. He told me to force the movement to try and feel cracking as this would be the scar tissue breaking down , the very very worst thing he told me was to think that it would heal itself and movement would return. The longer the wrist has limited movement the more movement is lost long term. I forced and forced my wrist to move until the pain made me physically exhausted for hours. Once plated my physio told me you cannot damage it with forced movement. On my second visit 6 weeks post cast removal I was given the ok to commence cycling again (with a suitable brace) 30 miles at first but within 12 weeks I was back to 100 miles again. My point is , think that your wrist will just heal and movement will return is folly you have to continually break down scar tissue by doing the advised exercises religiously regardless of the considerable pain. Soaking in hot water helps free up the wrist while working on movement also you could take painkillers before. Honestly I do not make light of this I know the frustrations and extreme pain all too well. At one point I told my boss that if I didn’t want to ride my bike I would gladly never move my wrist again! Even now I can still remember how ever tiny movement felt like my wrist would break again. Unfortunately it’s how it is.
Pipcas vanessa2018
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The driving is the thing. I’m so isolated and living on my own doesn’t help. It’s only just under 4 weeks so I’ve got a long road ahead. I had no idea when I turned up at A&E in Halifax that day what a long road it would be. you just think “oh 6 weeks in a cast and then I’ll be ok”. People keep seeing me in a splint now and saying “oh is it all ok now?”. I feel like yelling “noooooo!”.
Pipcas Paul_M10s
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That’s the thing. I’m scared to death of damaging it. Especially since they’d told me they didnt know if they’d get a plate on and had struggled to do so. How long after the op did you start physio? I turned up at physio 3 weeks post op and they said “oh no it’s way too soon really to be doing anything”, although agreed that I could do some very gentle stretches which i’d been doing anyway. They were also astounded I had a splint instead of a pot at 2 weeks post surgery and thought the surgeon must have got his dates muddled. That’s been fine though. I’ve been so tired. I went to my 4 year old nephews birthday party yesterday and embarrassingly fell asleep on the couch for any hour. 😂
Paul_M10s Pipcas
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Pipcas Paul_M10s
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Generally I don’t sleep a lot. I don’t need it. But both today and yesterday having had short trips out I fell asleep for an hour.
I’m turning in to an old woman!!! I’m 46.