TGA - Transient Global Amnesia (temporary memory loss)
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There seem to be no postings about TGA, so I thought I'd start one up as it is quite a bewildering experience. 14 April 2016 - 4pm: I came in from the garden (sawing through 2" hazelnut branch - which has probably been the trigger in my case) and said I was confused, asking what day of the week it was. Hubby said: Thursday. Apparently I kept on repeating the same question every 5-10mins - about 20 times. Hubby thought that strange, why doesn't she know these simple things. Then Hubby asked me: do you know what we did this morning? And I couldn't tell him. He told me we had been shopping, so I said: well it can't be Thursday because I go shopping on a Friday! (No probs with LT memory/reasoning then?) Hubby was worried so he thought he'd better check what I'd been up to in the garden and found one long hazel branch cut off which he put in the wheelie bin, but I told him to cut it up in chunks as things mustn't stick out of the bin (bossiness still in tact!). He tidied the stuff up and I changed out of my wellies and garden clobber all by myself apparently (procedural memory intact!) and by then Hubby had Googled 'loss of memory', and it came up with things like: go straight to A&E, it could be blood clot. So at 4.30pm Hubby said we'll ring up the surgery and I said: I'll do that. So I rang the surgery myself and spoke to L, but she couldn't get much sense out of me apparently, so Hubby spoke with her and she advised him to take me to A&E. About 5pm arrived at the hospital. Hubby was chatting with me asking what we'd been up earlier that day, but I couldn't remember anything. Couldn't remember our walk, that I had done some invoicing and arranging parcel despatch. After 30mins it was my turn, then had CT scan very quickly - around 6pm. apparently, had a Chest X-ray at 7.40pm and ECG at 8pm. I do remember a nurse sticking these ECG pads on my body, but I don't remember the actual ECG being recorded. The very first check had been how physically fit I was - knee reflex, push the medic's hand away with my own hand and foot, etc. - all OK. Followed by blood tests. CT scan results came back within one hour, all clear. Good news, so then what could it be? Then it was change of shift (8pm-ish?) and at that stage they seemed to think I had to stay in overnight - I do remember that bit, being told to stay overnight, feeling quite calm and resigned. Then Dr D came to us towards the end of our stay - he tested my ST memory by asking me if I remembered his name. I had no trouble remembering his name. He told us I had Transient Global Amnesia. He said it was fairly typical, liable to have a headache, it should have cleared up within 12 hours, with a 6% chance of recurrence. Otherwise I should be back to normal. But I have been feeling very groggy ever since, a headache for 2 whole days (yesterday Sunday, was the first day without) and very very tired, so it ws very reassuring to hear other people's experiences with similar after effects (on a soon to be defunct website). The consultant's secretary rang the next day with a follow-up appointment in 14 days' time. Can't fault the UK National Health Service. I have looked on YouTube for TGA and found a video called 'It's Tuesday' - a daughter recorded her mum in hospital - had to laugh, recognised all the symptoms, only with her it happened on a Tuesday, so daughter had to keep on repeating 'It's Tuesday' to her mum, hence the title of the video. Hope it doesn't recurr. Will ask consultant at my follow-up appointment if I need to avoid strenuous exercise for a while/forever?
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jill03982 maja68564
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maja68564 jill03982
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Hi Jill, I have not had any recurrences so far (fingers crossed) since my TGA in April 2016, but like you I suffered with migraines up until I was about 60, now (nearly 65) I get ocular migraines (zigzaggy lines which start small in the centre of my eyes then spreads out towards periphery - lasts about 15 mins) accompanied by heavy head. I felt tired for quite a few days/2 weeks after my TGA with headaches. Don't have any food intolerances. I don't take any medication. Someone posted on this forum reporting repeated incidences of TGAs, but I listened to a radio health programme on the BBC and they said it is quite a rare occurrence, i.e. it takes quite a few things to come together to satisfy sufficient conditions for a TGA to occur. All the best. Maja
jill03982 maja68564
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jill03982 maja68564
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maja68564 jill03982
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Hi Jill, it was on a BBC radio programme called All in the Mind and Prof Adam Zeman talked about TGA. He said TGA was relatively common: about 1 in 10,000 people a year get one, usually it is a one off, one a few percent of patients have recurrence. Triggered by physical or psychological stress, and people who are prone to anxiety seem to be get it more and one particular set of conditions needs to be satisfied - but he didn't elaborate on that. I have had The YorkTest Food Intolerance Test which measure food-specific IgG antibodies,but this is not a scientifically proven test at all - wasted my money on that - it shows up the foods you have most recently eaten (hence the anti-bodies). I am not intolerant to any foods - I thought for years I was intolerant to wheat and avoided it for years (migraines) unnecessarily. Anyway statistically speaking the probabilities of getting another TGA are very low. Good luck! Maja
karen07433 jill03982
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I am not taking statin but read articles about their possible triggering TGA. Any thoughts?
shirleyps karen07433
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Hi Kare: I am so sorry to hear about your TGA and wish you a fast recovery. I don't think mine have anything to do with food intolerance and I am pretty sure mine are triggered by an episode of intense emotional conflict. I think we all have different triggers and you should keep this in mind for the future and try and avoid what might be your own personal trigger/s.
vicky902 maja68564
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avabrown22 maja68564
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This condition is rare and is generally considered harmless and unlikely to reoccur after the first incident. Episodes tend to be short-lived, lasting only a couple of hours, with memory being fully intact once regained.
vicky902 avabrown22
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This condition is not as rare as the medical field wants us all to believe. One can not say these episodes are short lived bq we are all different. Lasting only a couple of hours w/memory being fully intact once it's regained?? Definitely has not been my experience and I've had 3 in all. Only what I call a "mini TGA" was that short lived and last only a couple of hours. My full blown TGAs is a total different experience - one that I don't wish on anyone.
jill03982 maja68564
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susan12566 jill03982
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I had been sick in bed for 3 days - not dreadfully sick as I’d been preparing lessons (I am a high school teacher), had shocking headaches for all those days on waking, was stuffed up and not breathing easily through my nose. I decided to climb the 2 uncommonly large flights of stairs up to the staff room while carrying a box of books. Apparently couldn’t get my breath by the time I got to the top and hyperventilated.
Other than snippets my memory is now v sketchy for about 48 hours before this till about 8 hours after. I was a classic “Dory”, I’m told, not able to retain anything that was said to me for hours. I think my awareness of the passing of time and recall of “the right word” and for events for days before is still a bit wacko. I have read that retrieval can be a problem for up to a year afterwards. If I had to, I think I could go to work. But as others have said, I feel exhausted and slightly disoriented. I always knew who I was (I’m told) and who my hubby is, had good speech and strength, but other than that I was profoundly lost in space and time.
I’ve been told this is very rare and it’s unlikely it will recur for me.
catherine23687 maja68564
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The recent event was triggered by stupidity ( 10 days after major surgery, dehydrated, 25 deg C, buying pots at garden center). First event was triggered by dehydration, working at 23 deg C in a pre-school for developmentally challenged children. Both times I was in pain prior to the attack. I think I know how to avoid future attack’s. Stop work, move somewhere cold and replace the red wine with good old H2O!!
karen07433 catherine23687
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Hi Catherine,
Thanks for posting. It seems a bit of a vacuum on the net other than some "scholarly " articles. I m just home from hospital having my first and hopefully last TGA. It is very disconcerting, pottering around doing a million things and suddenly memory gone!!!
Events took over, excellent Hospital, CT Scan, MRI scan, ECG etc. nothing wrong except a slightly raised temperature and diagnosis of TGA.
Happened on Friday morning and seemingly again on Friday pm or was it all one? I did not feel good in between. I have had loads of tests including CT MRI ECG. A definite diagnosis of TGA was made.
Now that I am home there are a few serious gaps in my memory. I cannot remember any of the content of a work meeting held a day before this event. A situation that happened at work a week before the TGS has dropped from my mind.
Is this normal? It feels worrying. Ot is too early to be back at work but I am worried about all of this in the work context. Anyt hought sany one?
shirleyps karen07433
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Hi Karen: I replied to your food intolerance question already so in addition I will share with you that I have accepted the big memory gaps that both my TGA's left with me. Maybe the work meeting created some stress conflict for you? My second TGA was a lot less severe and my recovery faster but it still took several weeks for me to feel normal and even longer for my concentration abilities to return but they did so try not to stress about them and accept that it takes some time. I coped by taking my time to read and analyse anything important and printed out emails etc., using a highlighter for the key points as I found I could not concentrate and retain a lot of information at once. Accept you might be a little slower for a while but your concentration skills will return. Let people that you trust know about it so that they can support you and give you feedback on how you are doing. This is my own personal experience and not what any doctor told me. I don't think the medical profession is very well versed in follow up care for TGA's as everyone is different. I found that reading about other TGA sufferers experience most helpful so I encourage you to keep doing that. Good luck, let us know how you are doing and if you have any questions.
karen07433 shirleyps
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Hi Shirley and Catherine,
Thanks for the post. Just having communication from yourself and others does help to normalise it. I am surprised that it is so rare and appreciate the contact. I am at home "seeing how I go". I can't tell how it is all going to pan out but sounds promising. It was initially very scarey particularly as my mother aged 93 has dementia. This has all happened so quickly and now lots of finding out to do. Friday at 7am it all began.
I actually feel really good in myself now, as if my memory has been spring cleaned. I am just cautious now about new information and thoughts - will they stick. I have been healthy eating, done some exercise and sprung cleaned a clothes cupboard!
catherine23687 karen07433
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vicky902 shirleyps
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I so agree w/everything you say here....Reading that it took you several weeks to snap out of it helps me bq I feel every day gets better but it too takes me a several months to finally snap out of it. Every experience is different. This time around, I am having problems w/spitting words out....my brain knows what I want to say but my mouth just can't spit it out fast enough but that too is getting better. Now I am just throwing this out there to you or anyone reading this....Has anyone noticed that once you come out of the TGA fog (for me taking months to recover), do you find your memory is better in certain things?? After my first episode, took me months to make sense of basic math....I did recover months later in math but I'm not as quick as I used to be but in other things, my memory has gotten so much better. As I state above, this time around, I just can't spit my words out quick enough but in other ways, my memory has improved but still not fully recovered as I still feel some TGA fogness---is fogness even a word?? LOL
jill03982 catherine23687
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HI i hope you have googled TYRAMINE and now know that there are a ton of foods which produce TYRAMINE. Lots of things besides red wines. It's produced in meats and cheeses that have been aged, for instance.
miriam77521 vicky902
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Vicky, I noticed that it took about 3-4 months to snap out of the brain fog. From time to time I will have a difficult time thinking of the words I want to use to describe or explain something. It would eventually come but very frustrating. Another thing I've noticed is that I do not think on my feet as well. It bothers me if I'm on the phone and get asked to describe something. Borderline panic. I just have to slow down.
Fogness or fogginess...both work for me.